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Old 17th Jan 2015, 16:42
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One further thought on the EK route. Apart from the pax load factor I understand its the good cargo loads they get that make this operation well worthwhile.
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Old 17th Jan 2015, 17:04
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The cargo on NCL-DXB has blown everyone away by all/most accounts, and has made it's own market based around the flights, particularly NE-Oz.

EKCH2730, thank you very much for correcting me, I've never understood the 22:00 arrival but I suppose it still works for businessmen, just means they spend a night, do a day of work and fly back the next evening. Where did you get the transfer information from? Is there any way of finding the specific numbers of passengers flying to specific destinations? But I appreciate now that I neglected to look at EU connections I was focusing on long haul. CPH is definitely valuable for the connections you mention due to NCL's lack of service to them.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 06:11
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United Airlines boss can't wait for Newcastle to New York flight to begin - Chronicle Live

The expected publicity stuff, but it does say:

UK and Ireland Managing Director (sales), Bob Schumacher saying he hopes to put the region on the map for Americans...

...“We’re very excited as a company and we’re very satisfied with early booking levels and the noise coming out of the market, and the interest from the public and the travel trade."
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 08:07
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Chancellor's warning.

Notes from a local rag

Chancellor's warning over future of Newcastle Airport (From The Northern Echo)
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 09:57
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Aer Lingus

It would appear that for Winter 15 DUB is going to 1 daily, with the evening flight being dropped.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 10:59
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If it affects Newcastle what hope will DTV have?
I see DTV MP Phil Wilson is mentioned, but the chancellor won't reply to the Labour party letters from way back in November, so he can't do anything as usual! As much use as a chocolate fire guard.
Chancellor's warning over future of Newcastle Airport (From The Northern Echo)
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 11:30
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Good news about the news coming from United and our New York route.
Let's hope we get some more news later this year of the route returning for longer period

Aer Lingus. Sad to see the evening flight gone but maybe it will go on sale later in the year. If pax are using the service for onwards connections do we need the evening flight ? Can pax go west using the morning flight only?

Maybe Ryanair may go twice daily certain days??

Flybe may start Dublin?


I know this is a long way off but if United are happy and making money do you think we could get another destination in the USA?

What's the chances of us getting a weekly charter service to places like Las Vegas?
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 12:51
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This summers Aer Lingus flights showed just 1 x daily for a period before it was subsequently amended to 2x daily, so I don't think we should read too much into it at this stage.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 13:22
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What's the chances of us getting a weekly charter service to places like Las Vegas?
I'd say NIL & unnecessary! Many reasons :- Costs, & would involve a fuel stop, so why not simply fly United through EWR ?
As a holiday destination, would there be the demand for more or less full "Y"?, & again if there was, then presumably even more likely the operator could block book United...
Then one could simply book one of the currently available options from MAN access by road or rail.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 16:51
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Hahahahaha, this is going to be the next thing now us spotters have finally got New York all I'll say is, UA do well at MAN and EDI, and have IAD and ORD respectively, among other US airlines. But no... Not yet is what I'd say.

Although I do think I have an amazing idea, to stop NCL (and others) losing out if we give Scotland more (which we will), one of the following should happen, in order of preference:
1. Cut APD to all airports with under 20,000,000 PPA (just clinches top spot, simply due to the complete and utter selfishness that it would help NCL win a bit over MAN)
2. Cut APD alltogether!!!
3. Cut APD to every airport outside the home counties... I quite like that one too.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 11:17
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So it's official, APD is being devolved tOo Scotland. This could mean that NCL will lose out to EDI and GLA. Of course, the airlines may not pass on any savings to the customer, and thus nothing will change.

Thoughts?
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 12:08
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Yeah......anger mainly
Prescription charges, tuition fees and now APD.
This will hit a part of the 'so-called United' Kingdom - the North East - most of all. Totally unjust and unfair.

So I pay my taxes.....so that Scottish people don't have to.
Someone somewhere is seriously taking the pi$$
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 12:16
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Scottish people pay their taxes too! In fact we pay more tax per head than anywhere else in the UK!
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 12:41
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Yeah and you also get WAY more back than England! Let's not forget that.

Good ole' Barnett formula!

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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 12:51
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Fair enough

So, getting back on topic, will we see droves of Geordies head off to use EDI or GLA?
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 12:54
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Not that old myth again.

So what you are saying is my taxes head to the Treasury in London, never to be seen again. If they don't go there, where do they go then?

Didn't the NE have the chance of a Regional Assembly which could have given you the chance of Powers but it was rejected.

Difference is, Scotland isn't a region no matter how many people down south refer to it as such.

You can thank your politicians for panicking as the D-Day came closer with the vote too close to call at that time. Now, we expect what was promised - no more, no less.

You can deal with it with your vote at the forthcoming GE.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 12:58
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Exactly what I was wondering GrahamK. What proportion of NCL's traffic is Band B? I can't really see there being much leakage of Band A traffic at £13 per adult and half that per child per round trip. But if Ms Sturgeon and co halved the Band B rate (£69) and that got passed through 100% then you might be talking. Even then coming back from Dubai or New York with 120 miles to do over Carter Bar would not be everyone's cup of tea.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 13:04
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The NE Regional Assembly was a joke. I'll thought out and information about it was scarce.

It's just a shame the oil price crash didn't happen six months earlier. Would have been a clear NO vote with zero effort required.

Never understood all the anti English sentiment North of the Border. After all we don't get free prescriptions, university or elderly social care. And we will have to pay full APD and public spending per head is less than Scotland. Yet I see nothing but hatred. Despite me being half Scottish and half English I've picked up on it since I was about four years old.

We didn't ask for Scotland to be part of the UK and to be honest a lot of people wanted them to go independent. I personally did. The English also have NO representation in government and are deprived a national identity.
All in all life ain't all that bad North of the border.

Anyway back on topic. I often use EDI but that's only because I get a free rail pass and I use edi for schedule reasons. Not cost. I can't see myself ever going to Glasgow unless it was long haul and at least £100 per head cheaper.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 13:16
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I suppose for Carlisle and W Cumbria the choices would be a bit closer.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 13:32
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Indeed, and already you see travel agents pushing GLA and MAN over NCL flights in Carlisle
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