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Well ManxWho crashed a plane and nobody got held responsible. No matter how much you spotter types whinge easy has a fabulous safety record and great prices. If they push a two Bob operator off the route then I will rejoice knowing my fellow north easterners are traveling in safety.
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Ah the obligatory derogatory spotter comment..
SWBKCB, EZY would be much much cheaper, think around 20% of the cost (Citywing's lowest fares are £59.99 each way from NCL), x2 weekly A319 with £20 each way with a trusted brand name and all those little details like... Flight attendants? Would undoubtedly be more popular.
EZY has created quite a market for themselves on the IOM too. But I think Citywing is quite a formidable competitor, I suppose we will see if EZY ever go after them IOM-BFS
SWBKCB, EZY would be much much cheaper, think around 20% of the cost (Citywing's lowest fares are £59.99 each way from NCL), x2 weekly A319 with £20 each way with a trusted brand name and all those little details like... Flight attendants? Would undoubtedly be more popular.
EZY has created quite a market for themselves on the IOM too. But I think Citywing is quite a formidable competitor, I suppose we will see if EZY ever go after them IOM-BFS
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Well in all fairness BRS has been without an IOM a service for quite some time yet that route is being revived, this time with an Airbus so anything is possible. Nothing surprises me these days.
I heard a rumour the Manx govt. pays some subsidy for new route. Not sure if there's any truth in it (im sure some make stuff up just for the craic!) but with NCL being a current route perhaps there's less chance of it switching to another carrier as there's no incentives for them and they would have them taking on the full commerical risk.
Potentially however it could work. It's accross the sea. There's no cheap or quick alternative so you should manage a decent yeild together with the lower operating costs of a short hop it could be a winner.
I however know zilch about the demand on the route nor the demographics IOM so who knows!
I heard a rumour the Manx govt. pays some subsidy for new route. Not sure if there's any truth in it (im sure some make stuff up just for the craic!) but with NCL being a current route perhaps there's less chance of it switching to another carrier as there's no incentives for them and they would have them taking on the full commerical risk.
Potentially however it could work. It's accross the sea. There's no cheap or quick alternative so you should manage a decent yeild together with the lower operating costs of a short hop it could be a winner.
I however know zilch about the demand on the route nor the demographics IOM so who knows!
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I heard a rumour the Manx govt. pays some subsidy for new route.
This often takes the form of joint advertising campaigns, or a direct subsidy such as the Scottish Route Development Fund, paid either to the airline or the airport to reduce landing fees. Other forms of support and incentives will also be offered to attract new routes.
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Even with a frequency reduction to twice weekly and lower costs I still don't think EZY would have a chance at making it work, you have to consider the IOM flights don't operate every day and aren't always full to their 19 passenger capacity. I think EZY would struggle to get 50 per flight, the only airline I could see operating it other than Citywing is Flybe, the Dash 8s operating costs are much lower than an Airbus and there aren't as many seats to fill, but I still can't see it happening.
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Well yeah it's definitely a long shot... But If EZY had an A319 sitting on the ground for 3 hours, they could do it no problem, less than 30 minutes there and the same back, 25 minutes on the ground, simples(-ish)
Still though, the current service is better than no service, there's been a service to the IOM as long as there has been an airport there...
Still though, the current service is better than no service, there's been a service to the IOM as long as there has been an airport there...
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Well possibly... DFDS will be loving it
Is there anywhere you can get airline specific stats from the caa? I.e to see the KL/U2 split on NCL-AMS etc. I'd also like to see TOM/TCX/LS/EZY split on leisure routes.
Is there anywhere you can get airline specific stats from the caa? I.e to see the KL/U2 split on NCL-AMS etc. I'd also like to see TOM/TCX/LS/EZY split on leisure routes.
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Re comments of an IOM route by easyJet, it's highly irrelevant that Citywing don't fill a 19 seater. The fact is that the final seats available on the aircraft come at a high price, as is the case with easyJet's model. However, there is no doubt easyJet could significant grow the market between IOM and NCL.
Routes like IOM LPL, BRS IOM are short block times hence if a rotation can be fitted in with no requirement for extra aircraft or cuts to other services, the maths could stack on a marginal costing basis . That said I feel it would be a stretch.
The largest markets ex IOM not touched by direct competition are Manchester and Belfast, and without multiple daily frequencies , simply won't stack for easyJet. Citywing did a fine job at seeing off Logan off the IOM BHD route before.
Routes like IOM LPL, BRS IOM are short block times hence if a rotation can be fitted in with no requirement for extra aircraft or cuts to other services, the maths could stack on a marginal costing basis . That said I feel it would be a stretch.
The largest markets ex IOM not touched by direct competition are Manchester and Belfast, and without multiple daily frequencies , simply won't stack for easyJet. Citywing did a fine job at seeing off Logan off the IOM BHD route before.
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Yeah, Citywing must operate whereby they can break even with less than 10 pax and charge accordingly, EZY would probably charge £40 return vs Citywing £120-£160 return