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Old 10th Apr 2014, 18:20
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Now don't kill me but this is a curious question.

I looked on the Jet2 site then looked at the route map and with a tag saying 'new' was Vienna and I saw NCL - Vienna and when I scrolled over Vienna it also showed MAN and LBA.

But in the drop down box it only showed Manchester.

Have I missed something (I don't live in England anymore) so is it one of those special destination things like Newark ? ...
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 19:48
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Have they cut flights from EDI and GLA?
I take it you mean to/from BRS. Looking at next winter the answer seems to be that they haven't with EDI mainly 4 x daily on weekdays and GLA 3 x daily (slight reduction midweek in January) both as last winter. It does seem perverse with NCL-BRS next winter and, has been said, presumably it's down to yields but the route's been running for a decade with at least two daily rotations, one early the other later in the day, so what's suddenly changed? I've used the route several times in recent years for day trips to Newcastle - very little chance of that this winter.

I know it all comes down to yields, but those Bristol flights are always pretty choc-a-bloc. Remember that the annual figures quoted above date back to when Ezy operated 3 return flights per day.
In summer 2007 it was actually 4 x daily every day except Saturday which was 2 x daily. Now that might have been a bit of overkill - feast to near famine it now seems.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 07:49
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"Why oh why when we get these train vs plane comparisons does everybody assume that everybody is going from city to city centre - now that the EXT service has gone NCL-BRS is connecting the North East and the South West."

Agreed, and furthermore I'm struggling using my maths to get a Newc city centre to BRS city centre by air to be anywhere near 5 hours anyway.

The population of the N-East is fairly widely distributed, and for a large proportion, their business day can start from somewhere easier to get to the airport than city centre locations in NCL, Durham or Darlo.

I've even used the NCL-BRS to do a day trip to Swansea - there's no way to do that on the train or drive.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 10:17
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Well. I don't love in NCL centre, nor do I visit BRS centre. My home is a 40 drive to the airport (A1 permitting). So 40 minutes, plus parking, plus parking fees, plus walk to terminal, then I need to arrive early if it's the morning flight as security is busy, minimum one hour, then fly, then arrive and travel to my place of work VERY close to BRS and the time saved flying is negligible. I also have the benefit of having my own car with and unlimited luggage allowance. Yes I can hire a car down there but booking, collecting and dropping it off is just more hassle.

The drive can be done in four hours door to door but I always budget for five to account for any traffic.

In the same way that people assume people revel city centre to city centre, which is wrong, it is also wrong to assume that everyone is travelling on a day trip.

All I am saying is that if the demand was there and the airline could support the route at a high frequency, profitably, then it would be done.

If EZY do chop the route then it may be tricky to find a replacement as BE have shut NCL. W through NCL will yield a business friendly timetable, or we can all remortgage and fly Eastern if they pick up the route.

The trains may be hourly but the last departure either north or South to get you to your destination in reasonable time leave quite early compared to the flight, so that may account for the hi demand on evenings.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 16:18
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Newcastle Airport unveils £14m redevelopment of departure lounge - Chronicle Live

Used to work with a woman who didn't think her holiday had started till she'd bought a new handbag - she'll be happy!
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 18:52
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Personally I think it's good news, The departure lounge at Newcastle is really starting to show its age in comparison to other airports, hopefully this redevelopment will extend to the gates as well, because they really are crying out for it.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 21:16
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Perhaps this is the only way they can make money these days.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 23:28
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Departure Lounge

I am pleased that the departure lounge is being refurbished but from the plan image on the chronicle website it's not clear whether the glass windows will be boarded up by shops and restaurants or whether they will be similar to what's at the Burger King, The Beer House End as blocking up the views of the apron from the departure lounge will be a real shame as it's one of the best features of the airport the large expanse of natural light and views which somewhat lack in other airports.
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Old 12th Apr 2014, 00:01
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I will seriously boycott Newcastle International Shopping Centre if they block up those windows. And with the walk through World Duty Free, I'm hoping they don't go OTT with the shopping centre feel and funnel you through an endless maze of women's... Crap, before you get into the lounge (ala LBA). I liked the "novelty" of being able to walk out of security and have a choice to some extent of what shops you went into. Definitely praying for a Costa Coffee somewhere airside or landside.

Anyway, looks nice, and the lounges are deffo an improvement (didn't know the new Aspire was the largest in the UK, and AspirePlus seems nice). Next on the list has to be the gates being re done MASSIVELY. Some space for an EK lounge in the future might be nice too

Do we seriously have to wait until 2030 for that new pier?
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Old 12th Apr 2014, 07:20
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Agreed. Every time I visit the lounge it's like taking a trip back in time. There is a serious disconnect between the standard of the terninal which I fel is pretty pleasant and the pier which it's pretty grim.

I don't like the name The Flying Hippo, nor the way it's plastered on the wall in huge writing. It just looks and sounds like a kiddy play pen.
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Old 12th Apr 2014, 09:19
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I don't know why you are all complaining about the gates, you want to try the new pier at Bristol - bare polished concrete floors with no seating. It's a great place to stand in a queue when the flight has been called before the aircraft has arrived.
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Old 12th Apr 2014, 11:30
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Yeah I had that one Hipennine... I didn't think it was that bad, and NCL's isnt that bad either... Could just do with being lit up a little bit.
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Old 12th Apr 2014, 11:38
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I use BRS every few days. The holding pens are gruesome, especially on a hot summers day. Now that flights are 'boarding' 25 mins before the inbound has even landed I'm not looking forward to this summer. And staff make announcements asking the stragglers to hurry to the gate as the flight is 'fully boarded' before the aircraft has been cleared for boarding. As grim as they are, they do look rather modern!

I'm pretty sure they're tiled floors though, although I would quite happily be corrected. One of the gates (stand 20ish) is fully seated, but of all the flights I've taken none of departed from this gate. Bristol's main problem is domestic arrivals requiring a bus to all but one stand (2), and when departing from a remote stand waiting at a gate (3-6), queuing, then standing on a bus for 10+ minutes then boarding.

Although the terminal building is actually quite pleasant flying to and from Bristol, particularly when it's a domestic is just hideous. The new eastern pier should alleviate the situation but it will still be holding pens. Anyway, that's a discussion for the Bristol page. NCL's gates are executive lounges compared to BRS's gates but they still need tarted up regardless.

EK77WNCL: you speak about the gates needing to be done up 'MASSIVELY'. When you say 'NCLs isn't that bad', could do with being lit up a little bit'. What it is you're referring to? I can't figure it out. Do you mean the gates?

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Old 12th Apr 2014, 13:12
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I'm referring to walking down the corridor towards the gates, that little WHSmiths tucked away in the corner is cool but a bit dull. I meant that they arent that bad in the great scheme of things but it would be nice if they were cleaned up a little bit and redesigned somewhat. Coming down the pier after arriving is nice, it has a lot of natural light compared to departures just a few feet above.

When I came in on Flybe once I was amazed at where they come through, that felt like a hospital/prison combo, but very quick and efficient nonetheless.
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Old 12th Apr 2014, 14:40
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Oh I see. Yes I agree it is a little dingy down there. I like to sit down there however and it's pretty quiet and right by the gates too. Natural light would be good though but I honestly don't know what is behind the wall on which WHS sits. It would be nice to get some light down there.

I'm not sure how well WHS down there is used, I've certainly never used it but maybe if it were turned into a bigger seating area it may help, but in don't think the airport would be keen on people loitering down there when they should be enjoying their "shopping time" upstairs. Besides I can't see them giving up retail space for a seating area.
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Old 12th Apr 2014, 16:09
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During my recent passages through the airport, that WH Smith's has been shut, but the seating area has been full with people standing waiting for the gates to be shown on the screen. That increased usage would suggest to me that regular pax want less of the retail/catering/drinking experience, because those areas have been very empty when the "basement" was full.
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Old 14th Apr 2014, 22:03
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Not sure if people had noticed (I just have) but for anyone who doesnt know , Cancun will eventually be a direct flight on the Dreamliner and wont require a stop at MAN once ops start July time
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Old 15th Apr 2014, 09:45
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HESLOP 2006

The LS Vienna flight was just a "one-off" flight.

BRISTOL

I remember that the when the summer flights to Belfast and Bristol were first published in the EZY timetables they seemed to show huge cuts in service and strange timings. Later timings/frequencies were revised, maybe the same thing will happen again.
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Old 15th Apr 2014, 11:42
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During my recent passages through the airport, that WH Smith's has been shut
Unsure that this is correct !, 3 airside concessions that I am aware of & all seem open busy on recent transits.
There has been a certain amount of rearrangement of the food & beverage arrangements, which are possibly less accommodating of those not wishing to seat in the more defined areas.
You omit to clarify at what time of day, though I would however guard against too wide a conclusion based upon your observations.
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Old 15th Apr 2014, 19:17
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Thanks for clearing that up for me
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