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Old 5th Apr 2010, 18:31
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Manchester security

Realise this is “old hat” and there are many out there ready to castigate me but had the misfortune of leaving through Terminal 3 at 7.15 on Saturday morning bound for Southampton. Only just made the flight because of a 25 minute queue to get through security! Initially it appeared that only a limited number of “lanes” were open although this seemed to improve soon after 6.30 am. Nevertheless there were folk due to catch flights to Paris and Frankfurt who were being specially called through otherwise their flights would have closed without them. Overall, whilst recognising the importance of security checks a less than impressive performance and little that Manchester Airport can be proud of.
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 19:30
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Moral to the Story

Arrive earlier.
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 21:04
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Looking at the emirates website, its interesting to see that the MAN-DXB flights on F class are twice as much as the LHR-DXB route.

Hopefully the fares stay at this price and sell well, no way anyone can say the yeilds arnt there then!

The economy fares arnt bad at all on the route though!
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 22:44
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Higher fares are probably designed to " prove" there is no demand for MAN "F" class & to substitute with the two class A380 when it becomes available.
Cynical ? Me ? never !
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 22:49
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Errrm...who do EK have to prove it to again?
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 09:46
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Quick question re security...went through T2 last week early (6am'ish) and NONE of the automatic boarding card gates were open & as a result only 1 security bod was checking boarding cards before waving us through to the scanners....

He wouldn't answer any passengers queries as to whether the gates were working and we were all coralled into one of those lovely queue snakes that we Brits love so much!

They didn't look out of order so why aren't they being used?
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 12:19
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Manchester March Traffic

A better month for Manchester

March pax - 1,248,479 down 6.95%
March movements - 12,482 down 11.97%
March freight - 10,126 tonnes up 15.50%

12 Months Ending 31.03.10

Pax - 18,264,729 down 10.57%
Movements - 166,682 down 15.29%
Freight - 107,047 down 15.81%
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 15:21
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With rail strikes looming (despite high court rulings) is it possible BA or BD might dedicate a few extra flights or at least staff so that people who have desserted their shuttles get a positive image of air travel should they return while needs must? Or is the mindset now that these flights are simply feed for their (or their alliances) London services?
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With rail strikes looming (despite high court rulings) is it possible BA or BD might dedicate a few extra flights or at least staff so that people who have desserted their shuttles get a positive image of air travel should they return while needs must? Or is the mindset now that these flights are simply feed for their (or their alliances) London services?
1. Flights to LHR are not exactly full and are mainly, as you say, for feeder traffic.
2. They simply aren't enough slots at LHR for BA/BD to put on extra services.
3. The attraction of air travel from MAN-LHR is considered too much faffying about now a days.

I would be surprised if we see anything larger than an A321 on the LHR run - I hope I am wrong! But I doubt it...
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 18:45
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Always welcome sound advice - so on the basis that I arrived 1.5 hours before departure, checked in and joined the security queue IMMEDIATELY, please advise me where I went wrong - polite replies only please
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 19:05
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danehold

Your timings do not seem to add up.

First you say that the queue at security was 25 mins and that you only just made your flight. Then you say you arrived at the airport 1.5 hours prior to your flight and went immediately to security after check-in.

So I think your problem must have been with check-in not security. Anyway, you made your flight and thats the most important thing.
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Old 7th Apr 2010, 10:42
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Virgin Atlantic restores scheduled flights to Las Vegas - Crain's Manchester Business

Confirming the already known...
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 06:02
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daynehold has a valid point. Every time I'm in T3 there is a long backed up queue for security. Considering that many (including me - and I work at MAN) now cannot be bothered to fly because it's as much fun as cholera, you'd expect that MAPLC might attempt to reduce the queues.
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 06:44
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I fly out of T3 at least 4 times a month and have rarely seen a queue longer than about 5-10 people.
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 07:29
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Perhaps I fly at odd times of the day, but my T3 experiences have been the same as JC25, on the last occasion catching the last BA of the day down to LHR, with the exception of about ten staff I was the only person in the security hall.
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 08:03
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Done a few recent T3 trips, usual security queue time, 5-10 minutes, not as good at T1, where I now seem to breeze through, but not bad at all.
If you want bad, try flying from Liverpool -even EZY themselves are complaining.
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 09:06
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AI European Base
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BUSINESS_STANDARD
Air india board to discuss international base plan
Mihir Mishra | 2010-04-06 02:00:00


The first board meeting of Air India with four new independent directors inducted last month will discuss a proposal for a base in Europe for its flights to the United States. The meeting, to be held on Tuesday, will discuss the viability of the cities of Dublin in Ireland, Birmingham in the United Kingdom, Barcelona in Spain and Copenhagen in Denmark as a base for Air India flights from India to the US.

"The viability of the new destinations will be reviewed in the first board meeting with the new directors and only after that will any decision will be taken," said a senior ministry official, who did not want to be identified.

Air India operates four daily flights from New Delhi and Mumbai to New York, Newark, Washington and Chicago.

Air India had earlier decided upon Frankfurt in Germany as an international hub but gave up the idea after it found the place to be too expensive to operate from.

"The cost per passenger at the Frankfurt terminal is at 10 per cent of the fare charged per passenger, which is high by every standard. This forced us to look for other cheaper destinations," said a senior Air India official, who did not want to be identified.

The new 13-member Air India board has Mahindra & Mahindra Managing Director Anand Mahindra, Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry General Secretary Amit Mitra, industrialist Harsh Neotia and Air Chief Marshal (Retd) Fali H Major as independent directors. They have joined the airline for a period of three years.

After the new terminal at the Delhi airport starts commercial operations, the merged entity will make Delhi its hub. Air India operates 12 international flights from Delhi and 17 from Mumbai, a large chunk of which is expected to shift to the capital now. Erstwhile Air India had its hub in Mumbai and erstwhile Indian Airlines' hub was Delhi......

Lets just hope BHX manages to bag this one its just that runway may go against us! Certainly BHX has a lot of VFR traffic much more than any of the other cities mentioned and certainly less US traffic than DUB,CPH or BCN.

THE ABOVE IS TAKEN FROM THE BIRMINGHAM THREAD.
Anyone like to enlighten me as to why our glorious airport is not in the frame?????????????
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 10:32
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MAN was on the list last time the story came out, just before they launched a BCN service.

BHX always seems to be more suited for AI, especially in the eyes of the company. Also, BCN and CPH have respectable *A presence, especially the latter!

My money is on BCN by some way...
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 12:27
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Re Air India

I refer to my post a month ago where I suggested MAG get on a plane pronto and actually "sell the place as a viable alternate to BHX"

OK may lose out to Copenhagen etc but for goodness sake have a go !

Selling Points
Wider network of domestic connections
wider network of European connections
90 min direct access to largest Indian community in Europe
Two runways capable of full weight operations

...as I said this instantly provides 4/5 major new destinations...at a stroke.

As we speak the board at BHX are on their way over their to present their case....

Could somebody behind the scenes at MAG comment as on the face of it "appears" to be a tremendous opportunity going begging through lack of ambition and aggresive marketing.

...there again maybe our cost base is as high as Frankfurt !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 8th Apr 2010, 12:54
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Dear God - Air India?

I don't think going all moist at Air India is helpful. If past performance is a guide they'd last until the next management re-shuffle which would be along shortly?

They're pretty unreliable, even with the new 77Ws!
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