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Old 1st Mar 2010, 18:57
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Stand 12

We all know that the stands at the end of Pier B were being modified to take the A380

Stand 12 was to be the A380 stand. There would also be 12L and 12 R.

Also 15 has been realigned and I think there have modifications to 10 as well.

Throughout MA have said there would be no changes to Pier B and no airbridges to stand 12.

I read somewhere recently that someone had been told that airbridges would now be provided to stand 12.

This is now confirmed on the MAG website on A380 readiness which says airbridges will be provided to 12 Could this be pressure from EK.

Does anyone know what exactly is being done.

The airbridges would seem also to be able to serve 12L and 12R as well

Will a bridge be provided to 15 and 10 if the latter hasn't already got one (I can't remember)

Also there has been talk from time to time about Pier B being modified to keep arrivals and departures apart . Is this part of this scheme or not.
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 21:07
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Aer Arann new routes

Some text from todays press release:

"In Kerry, Aer Arann is re-introducing its Manchester link, operating four days per week from May 20th.
The airline has also launched two new services from City of Derry to Manchester and Edinburgh, both also due to begin operating from May 20th. The Manchester service will operate seven days per while the Edinburgh service will operate six days per week."
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Old 3rd Mar 2010, 16:49
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Stand 12

I thought that arriving/departing pax were always kept separate anyway.... they are at the moment.
However, I do believe that changes will be made to B-Pier with respect to passengers coming in from stand 12.

On another note, I'd be interested to hear any information regarding recent DC-8 cargo flights (2) and the 747-200F flight (1). I'm aware of their routings, but would be interested to know what kind of cargo they were carrying and what was inbound/outbound.
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Old 3rd Mar 2010, 17:26
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i was told the other day that the first dc8 was some rich american moving to the uk had charted the dc8 to fly his house contents and personal effects over here.
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Old 3rd Mar 2010, 18:04
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Glazer?

Sorry, I'll get m' coat.
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Old 3rd Mar 2010, 21:36
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Nahh, Bill Gates......


































he already has Windows




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Old 3rd Mar 2010, 21:40
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i was told the other day that the first dc8 was some rich american moving to the uk had charted the dc8 to fly his house contents and personal effects over here.
Why on earth would a rich american move to a country with a 50% tax rate?!

I suppose the free world actually is more attractive than money to some people!

I'm sure our tax system will be very appreciative of his donations!
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Old 4th Mar 2010, 18:31
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Living here, and paying tax here, are not necessarily co-dependent. Lord Ashcroft can advise how/why.
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Old 4th Mar 2010, 20:31
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Wonderfull passenger experience - until its landed!

What a super passenger experience will be had on the A.380, That is until it arrives at Manchester !
Now the experience just gets better!!!

On landing on runway 05L, it will have to roll all the way to the end of the runway to vacate at J1 to be met by a follow-me. It will then be escorted along taxiway J and re-enter the runway via link H. It will then proceed to backtrack the runway until link BD where it will vacate (Still with a follow-me) onto taxiway B and then eventually onto stand 12 I'd imagine. However at the moment stand 62 is the only A.380 stand available.

After this the pax will be greeted by either a fleet of top-notch buses, or a very long walk down an travalator-less pier to the immigration hall with its up-hill and down-dale route over the Int. Deps.

When it's time to depart off runway 23R it will taxi to holding point D1 where it will with the aid of a follow-me again, execute a left turn onto the runway and backtrack (dodging the holes ) to exit H where it will join Juliett to the holding point at J1.

Meanwhile whilst all this is going on, the rest of the airport comes to a standstill

Ringway fit for the 21st century? - Ermmmm --- maybe the early 20th with Fred Karno in total control

A lesson on how not to impress people I think?
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Another post denigrating MAN. For an airport with these apparent woes, perhaps Adola69 may wish to come with reasons why the airport keeps picking up awards?! Or why EK is planning to have A380 ops despite the perceived shortcomings?
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Ringwayman - I think that you might be surprised if you knew who Adola69 is.

I would treat his posts with a degree of reverence if I were you!! Okay, maybe he is going slightly over the top with his description, however the overall comments are valid with regards to the routings.

All we need now is a proper taxiway system that will permit stand to runway holding point wih out any diversions - oh and whilst a think about it, a bit less of the 05L landings so as to get 23R ILS up to the required number of hours to permit a CAT111 rating (but you can't control the weather!!).
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 08:38
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Re A380: 05R landing and 23L departures would be a solution. So, when do the Mobberley concessions expire and can a daily departure by a A380 be classed as exceptional circumstance?
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 10:54
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when do the Mobberley concessions expire

When we have enough traffic, noticed the other day that it opened at 8.30, closed at 10.00, opened again at 4.40 to close at 18.00.

Maybee the owning coucils should look at opening a housing estate on it ??
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 11:34
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It's the middle of winter, of course the runway is utilised less. At the moment, in mid-March, it's needed at peak periods as the opening hours testify. We've all been to MAN on many occasions and seen a queue for departures and a steady flow of aircraft on finals, stretching away towards the Pennines.

I have a suggestion; maybe Boston with 26m ppa and 4 main runways should close a couple, and maybe Amsterdam doesn't need all of its 5 with 46m ppa.
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 12:07
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I have a suggestion; maybe Boston with 26m ppa and 4 main runways should close a couple, and maybe Amsterdam doesn't need all of its 5 with 46m ppa.

So why dont you let the powers that be know of your plan, dont reckon many of the Boston/Amsterdam crew read this thread ???

Meanwhile i understand Top Gear might be making a bid to take over runway 2 at Manchester for filming on.
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 12:45
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We are just going through the biggest recesion for years things will get better and we will need the second runways again.
All I can say is it`s a good job we have it coz if we tried again to get we wouldn`t


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Old 5th Mar 2010, 15:38
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Another post denigrating MAN. For an airport with these apparent woes, perhaps Adola69 may wish to come with reasons why the airport keeps picking up awards?! Or why EK is planning to have A380 ops despite the perceived shortcomings?

Re A380...not sure it can be described as denigrating Manchester when its an exact technical description of what will happen ?

On another point the airport bods recently addressed the local aviation society ...."5/6 years at least before we return to anything like pre recession traffic figures"

... given the optimism with other forecasts this might be equally optimistic....!
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Old 5th Mar 2010, 16:22
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Ah, the Manchester thread....it always feels like Deja Vu...

I was at a reception in a certain S.E. Asian city a few weeks ago with a UKTI/NWDA Trade Mission Group that also had tagging along some MIDAS folk and some rather (or very) senior people from MAN.

They did a very nice presentation to a receptive audience of invited guests about why people should fly to MAN (shame the people it was mainly aimed at were in Sydney that day, but there you go...) with some impressive and interesting statistics, not least the claim that Manchester had four Premier League teams, not two. This came as a bit of a surprise to the people from Wigan and Bolton in the room....

It was quite amusing how a number of people in the group (many of whom are very frequent business travellers) expressed a desire to 'have a word' with Mr H about 'issues' at MAN, and to be fair he took it all in and was pretty good with his replies. I am sure I don't need to list the most popular complaints he got.

One bit of interesting information was who the route folk had hopes would be a possible new long haul airline to arrive and the proposed route. It certainly wasn't one I'd considered, and I don't think it's been dreamt up on here yet with all the others. It would be a welcome addition to the route network if it comes off.

This is now confirmed on the MAG website on A380 readiness which says airbridges will be provided to 12 Could this be pressure from EK
It could also be for the ones based a bit further away, who are sending a longer version of their current bird in a couple of more days a week from the end of the month. Not pressure from them, but possibly pressure to them/carrot to move.

I know they have been looking at possible gates down there.
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The long haul airline that nobody on here has considered wouldnt be Phillipines Airlines would it?
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It could also be for the ones based a bit further away, who are sending a longer version of their current bird in a couple of more days a week from the end of the month. Not pressure from them, but possibly pressure to them/carrot to move.

I know they have been looking at possible gates down there.
Nah, they ain't movin'. Too sweet over on T2.
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