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Old 16th Aug 2009, 12:18
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I was just talking on another forum about MAN to Turkey, it has gone mad this year with over a 100 flights a week ( perhaps someone can confirm the exact totals)

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Old 16th Aug 2009, 20:07
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Don't forget that Monday is Dalaman's 'sheet change' day.
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 20:08
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My count shows a total of 103 flights to Turkey each week comprising:

Dalaman 59
Bodrum 22
Istanbul 10
Antalya 9
Izmir 3

Three flights however only operate once a month during August and one flight operates at two-weekly frequency.

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Old 16th Aug 2009, 21:02
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Thanks TSR2 looks very good

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Turkey is extremely popular this year as it's out of the Euro zone.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 11:18
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"Manchester airport not prepared to “prostitute” itself to Ryanair, says Cornish"

Oooh, harsh!!

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Old 17th Aug 2009, 12:35
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5 Live reporting that 9 of the 10 Ryan Air routes from Manchester will cease at the end of October.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 12:47
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I think they had a good and friendly meeting

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Old 17th Aug 2009, 12:52
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Also reported on BBC local news. Dublin being kept on,I would guess.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 12:53
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Ryanair's response.....

Here is Ryanair's press release

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Ryanair, the World’s favourite airline, today (17th Aug) announced that it will switch/close 9 of its 10 Manchester routes to lower cost competitor airports in East Midlands, Leeds Bradford and Liverpool (from 1st Oct) after Manchester Airport refused to lower its charges to reflect the lower fares being paid by passengers in the current recession. This move will result in the loss of 44 weekly Manchester flights, 600,000 passengers p.a. and up to 600 local jobs.

Ryanair had offered Manchester an additional 28 weekly flights and 400,000 new passengers which would have created 400 new jobs if the airport reduced its high charges. Manchester Airport rejected this offer and Ryanair’s Manchester routes to/from Barcelona (Girona), Bremen, Brussels (Charleroi), Cagliari, Dusseldorf (Weeze), Frankfurt (Hahn), Marseille, Milan (Bergamo) and Shannon will cease from 1st October. Passengers affected will be emailed directly by Ryanair and provided with a full refund or the alternative of flying to some destinations from competing, lower cost airports in East Midlands, Leeds Bradford and Liverpool.

Ryanair has recently announced new bases at low cost airports in Leeds Bradford and Porto and will continue to grow routes and traffic at lower cost competitor airports to Manchester such as East Midlands, Leeds Bradford and Liverpool.

Ryanair’s Stephen McNamara said:

“Ryanair continues to lower fares to encourage travel, but with passengers paying lower fares airports must lower their charges – particularly high cost airports like Manchester, London (Stansted) and Dublin. Ryanair had offered new routes, traffic and growth to Manchester Airport but since they prefer to preserve their high cost base than to grow, Ryanair will now switch/close nine Manchester routes to East Midlands, Leeds Bradford and Liverpool from 1st October next resulting in the loss of 600,000 passengers p.a. and up to 600 jobs at Manchester.

Ryanair will continue to grow at low cost airports which work with us to deliver the low fares required to keep passengers flying during this recession. Ryanair apologises to passengers affected by these cancelations and will contact them in the coming weeks to provide them with a full refund or a switch to similar flights to/from lower cost airports in the region.”
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 12:53
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Thanks god for that. Ryanair and MOL really are the pimps of the industry.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 13:11
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That 'pimp' attracted over 100,000 'clients' through MAN in July - albeit half to DUB, the one route being retained. I would imagine the potential loss of upwards of 500,000 pax a year (2.5% of current throughput) on top of the existing reduction in overall traffic through MAN will leave a fair sized hole in the airport's budget. I can't see many of the lost routes being taken up by other operators either?
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 13:23
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Very unlikely that he pays the airport much as they were all new routes which
would have been financed by the airport as new start routes which were coming to the end of to the time when he would have to finance them himself


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Old 17th Aug 2009, 13:42
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They might not have got much out of the airline itself, but there are now potentially half a million fewer people to use the car parks, buy a coffee, buy duty free, food etc. I think they will miss the income from these pax...
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 13:47
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I really hope that other airlines take up the slack and expand on the back of this. Particularly EZY. I got returns to RAK with them for £59 inc tax (no bags) for November. That's the kind of airline we want at MAN!
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 13:58
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CAA stats for May 2009 for passenger numbers on routes from Manchester that Ryanair currently flies. Note that Ryanair have not announced they are dropping the Dublin route

Dublin 53,812
Weeze 7,409
Hahn 5,968
Gerona 5,428
Shannon 5,123
Bremen 5,022
Charleroi 4,117
Bergamo 3,358
Marseille 1,838
Cagliari 1,769
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 14:44
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I find Ryanair truely amazing....
a month ago they said they were reducing capacity at STN as the charges were too high and the increase in the APD would cause less people to travel!
Then they announce a new base at LBA with all the normal ryanair fanfare saying how they are supporting the local economy,more jobs etc.
Now they pull all but one flight ex MAN claiming the charges are to high(if that is the only reason, then why are they keeping the DUB flt on).
They really know how to spin!
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 15:26
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Good for the management at MAN, i`m sure there will be plenty of airlines to pick up the dropped routes or fill the slots to other destinations.
I`m sure Monarch, Easy, Flybe and others will go to the main airports, not the similarly named ones several miles out of town!!!

If things are so rosey at Ryanair, they shouldn`t be worried about the charges at MAN, especially with plans to overrun it with new routes, OR is there a glitch in the plan sonewhere????

Why should airports have to bow down to the likes of Ryanair and MO, there are many proper airlines that will continue to fly despite the recession! Time Ryanair found out about competition!!

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Old 17th Aug 2009, 15:29
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I would really likek to know where they are getting these figures of 600 job losses and 400 new jobs from... You mean to tell me that potentially 1000 people would have been DIRECTLY working Ryanair flights alone? Sounds like a load of bollocks to me. I for one am glad to see them go. Jerkoffs like O'Leary are the ones that have taken the bottom out of the airports and handling agents with their absurdly low prices they pay for airports and ground handling. Good Riddance Mick and don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 15:35
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Thank god they are going. Often sat waiting for DUS departures with LH and those loads of people waiting for the NRN departure und blocking all the space.
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