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MANFlyer,
What amazes me if that you prefer LX to EK!
Seriously though, it is not exactly EK's fault that there are luggage problems at MAN - that obviously, falls down to the airport.
Not very often an EK flight comes in that empty - are you sure?
P.S. My views will be slightly bias as I am a Skywards FF!
What amazes me if that you prefer LX to EK!
Seriously though, it is not exactly EK's fault that there are luggage problems at MAN - that obviously, falls down to the airport.
And this is with a two-thirds empty 777
Not very often an EK flight comes in that empty - are you sure? P.S. My views will be slightly bias as I am a Skywards FF!
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Rumours of VS are starting to rise again.
Could the new relationship between LA and Manchester be an incentive for a service to the West coast?
I haven't got information or anything but could it be possible with say, VS A343?
Could the new relationship between LA and Manchester be an incentive for a service to the West coast?
I haven't got information or anything but could it be possible with say, VS A343?
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Not very often an EK flight comes in that empty - are you sure?
I think VS are busy enough trying to survive without breaking out into regional expansion mode at the minute. UK-Los Angeles suffers from a lack of connecting on with no hub at the US end. What's the relationship between Los Angeles and Manchester again? Are they dating? First base?
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Mate I know you are pro-Manch but he was actually on the flight....
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What's the relationship between Los Angeles and Manchester again? Are they dating? First base?
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New deal signed between the two cities.
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OK, I didn't count seat by seat, but most of the blocks of four had one or two pax in them, most blocks of three had one or two, the exceptions being families travelling together. Even a group of around 25 Kenyan school kids were split up to give them plenty of room. So maybe I exaggerated, half-full?
And my point about the bags was indeed aimed at the airport rather than EK. The carousel is either faulty, or not fit for purpose. A shame when everything else was pretty slick.
And my point about the bags was indeed aimed at the airport rather than EK. The carousel is either faulty, or not fit for purpose. A shame when everything else was pretty slick.
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Ooh, I thought I'd touch a nerve having a popping at the main reason MAN is still going ; the bucket & spader's. 
BTW, I have done more than my fair share of B&S over the last 20 years, including behaving like a **** like that lot yesterday morning. Except I don't recall nearly knocking an old lady over and leaving her in a distressed state like they did while p*ssed up and arsing around. Although the fact that number of people were packed into such a tight area obviously contributed, so MAN deserve a share of the blame for the (yet again) bust travellators and the leaking roof obstacle.
TSR2, fair point about the idiots in J as well, although I dispute the percentage. Nice and easily made in three lines as well. I would add that the ratio of ***s to be found in F is higher than both J and B&S. Shed, I can't quite work out why it took you about fifty lines to make just one point similar to TSR2, but I'm sure you had your reasons.
Dear oh dear oh dear. I really can't think of anything to say to that. 
BTW, I have done more than my fair share of B&S over the last 20 years, including behaving like a **** like that lot yesterday morning. Except I don't recall nearly knocking an old lady over and leaving her in a distressed state like they did while p*ssed up and arsing around. Although the fact that number of people were packed into such a tight area obviously contributed, so MAN deserve a share of the blame for the (yet again) bust travellators and the leaking roof obstacle.
TSR2, fair point about the idiots in J as well, although I dispute the percentage. Nice and easily made in three lines as well. I would add that the ratio of ***s to be found in F is higher than both J and B&S. Shed, I can't quite work out why it took you about fifty lines to make just one point similar to TSR2, but I'm sure you had your reasons.
What amazes me if that you prefer LX to EK!
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They ARE staying at 3 per week all through the winter schedule with extra flights from 10/12/09 until 4/01/10.
At least there not pulling out.
Also Co down to 10 flights per week and AA down again to 5 flights per week.
They ARE staying at 3 per week all through the winter schedule with extra flights from 10/12/09 until 4/01/10.
At least there not pulling out.
Also Co down to 10 flights per week and AA down again to 5 flights per week.
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flight reductions
spoke to a flight attendant from aa last week, he was saying that the AA054/055 from mancheste is full nearly everyday, same with continental!!!!! but hey as per usual manchester losses out in the winter.
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MANFlyer,
Apart from the fact that my post was twenty three lines long in response to your own original TWENTY FIVE (pots & kettles?), and that I made a point entirely different from that of TSR2 (who actually posted after me!), your observational skills are razor sharp!
:-)
But let me stress that I am not in the slightest bit upset by the suggestion that MAN is [at least partially] kept going by leisure travelers; I see them as welcome and valuable customers for MAN - it is yourself who appears to have some sort of problem with them? Bring them on: I am entirely content for MAN to benefit from their patronage. I have never subscribed to the theory that charter flights should be viewed as some kind of embarrassment to be hidden away. They are valuable business, and airports should not be afraid to celebrate and proclaim their contribution to a successful operation.
Yes, at an airport handling around 20 million pax per annum there will be some misbehaved individuals. But use of holiday flights is not the common denominator which defines them.
By the way, why the obsession with referring to all leisure travelers in derogatory terms only? Is it meant to look funny or clever? Happily, MAN does not appear to be in the habit of belittling its leisure customers with contemptuous labels like yours and I sincerely hope they never will.
Cheers, SHED.
Apart from the fact that my post was twenty three lines long in response to your own original TWENTY FIVE (pots & kettles?), and that I made a point entirely different from that of TSR2 (who actually posted after me!), your observational skills are razor sharp!
:-)
But let me stress that I am not in the slightest bit upset by the suggestion that MAN is [at least partially] kept going by leisure travelers; I see them as welcome and valuable customers for MAN - it is yourself who appears to have some sort of problem with them? Bring them on: I am entirely content for MAN to benefit from their patronage. I have never subscribed to the theory that charter flights should be viewed as some kind of embarrassment to be hidden away. They are valuable business, and airports should not be afraid to celebrate and proclaim their contribution to a successful operation.
Yes, at an airport handling around 20 million pax per annum there will be some misbehaved individuals. But use of holiday flights is not the common denominator which defines them.
By the way, why the obsession with referring to all leisure travelers in derogatory terms only? Is it meant to look funny or clever? Happily, MAN does not appear to be in the habit of belittling its leisure customers with contemptuous labels like yours and I sincerely hope they never will.
Cheers, SHED.
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The point is that the needs of Business and Leisure travelers are different. Mixing them up creates issues for both.
Leisure travelers (Charter) want to enjoy their holiday – maybe the only flight they take in a year and they enjoy arriving at the airport a bit early, doing some shopping etc.
The Business traveler need efficiency, working space, rest and are prepared to pay because time is money. Fast track, club lounges, flat beds etc
Two other groups to mention – LOCO users seem to be more experience and frequent travelers – villa owners, independent travelers, savvy business types.
Long haul economy passengers – visiting friends and relatives, independent again.
Therefore segmenting them with Charter terminal may make sense. At Manchester there is a high % of charter more than 35% in peak months and that creates problems for the others. I stopped using charter airlines 16 years ago after been left stranded for 12 hours overnight in Malaga; I have no need of charter since the arrival of loco’s.
Manchester airport in my view still needs to adjust to a role in this century, in a competitive not regulated environment, as a large regional airport serving a diverse range of services. It’s a place in the main you fly from, not to, or through
Leisure travelers (Charter) want to enjoy their holiday – maybe the only flight they take in a year and they enjoy arriving at the airport a bit early, doing some shopping etc.
The Business traveler need efficiency, working space, rest and are prepared to pay because time is money. Fast track, club lounges, flat beds etc
Two other groups to mention – LOCO users seem to be more experience and frequent travelers – villa owners, independent travelers, savvy business types.
Long haul economy passengers – visiting friends and relatives, independent again.
Therefore segmenting them with Charter terminal may make sense. At Manchester there is a high % of charter more than 35% in peak months and that creates problems for the others. I stopped using charter airlines 16 years ago after been left stranded for 12 hours overnight in Malaga; I have no need of charter since the arrival of loco’s.
Manchester airport in my view still needs to adjust to a role in this century, in a competitive not regulated environment, as a large regional airport serving a diverse range of services. It’s a place in the main you fly from, not to, or through
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Regarding the comment about the T1 baggage carousel being too full; I usually find the problem is simply that it's taking way too long for the passengers to pass through passport control, and hence their bags are backing up.
From experience of working and flying from T1 I personally think it is incapable of handling large A/C in any significant numbers.
From experience of working and flying from T1 I personally think it is incapable of handling large A/C in any significant numbers.
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Apart from the fact that my post was twenty three lines long in response to your own original TWENTY FIVE (pots & kettles?),
Another humdimger single point post eh. Keep waffling fella.Regarding the baggage issue, it's virtually irrelvant for me as I never take checked luggage except in the odd exceptional circumstance, or on holiday with the missus. On the last couple of such occassions they baggage has arrived refreshingly quickly compared to previous. As I said, prior to this weeks shambles the last few arrivals had been a pretty decent experience, although I can't remember the last time that escalator to take you to the car park bridge in T3 arrivals was working. Is that thing fixed yet ?. It's been out for months.
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MANFlyer,
I am delighted that you wish to focus on the length of my posting rather than the serious points which I raise. But since you mention it, if my 23 lines making a serious point are "waffle", how do you label your 25 in which you insult a large proportion of MAN's customer base as "bucket and spade idiots"?
Your intolerant attitude towards your fellow passengers (who happen to be Manchester Airport's lifeblood) is shining forth from your posts; now you resort to personal insults ("keep waffling fella") rather than addressing the serious issues raised. I think that readers here have learned all they need to know about you.
Cheers, SHED.
I am delighted that you wish to focus on the length of my posting rather than the serious points which I raise. But since you mention it, if my 23 lines making a serious point are "waffle", how do you label your 25 in which you insult a large proportion of MAN's customer base as "bucket and spade idiots"?
Your intolerant attitude towards your fellow passengers (who happen to be Manchester Airport's lifeblood) is shining forth from your posts; now you resort to personal insults ("keep waffling fella") rather than addressing the serious issues raised. I think that readers here have learned all they need to know about you.
Cheers, SHED.