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A new express coach service linking DIRECT MAN with LPL
starts on 1st May. Running every hour 24/7, there will be airport and airline staff fares available. Full route is from Manchester Picc-Manchester Airport-Warrington-Widnes-Liverpool John Lennon-Liverpool Lime St, every hour in each direction. Hi-spec coach including Wi-Fi.
More info when available
starts on 1st May. Running every hour 24/7, there will be airport and airline staff fares available. Full route is from Manchester Picc-Manchester Airport-Warrington-Widnes-Liverpool John Lennon-Liverpool Lime St, every hour in each direction. Hi-spec coach including Wi-Fi.More info when available
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Says the development will also include the runways over the coming years.
As far as I know the runways can take anything at any time so will this mean the taxiway down to the end of 5R?
As far as I know the runways can take anything at any time so will this mean the taxiway down to the end of 5R?
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I think it was the final plan for Runway 2. Due to environmentalists, they had to abandon the full legnth taxiway to minimailse space needed.
A full legnth taxiway will enable more convinient alternation, rather than using the turning circle then backtracking
A full legnth taxiway will enable more convinient alternation, rather than using the turning circle then backtracking
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From the MEN article
Airport's continued growth? Short term blip?
There has been no growth since 2005, long before the current recession reared its head. Manchester reached the 22m mark in 2005 and there the figures stayed until 2008 when the downward trend started. The current 12 month figure is 20.7m, below that achieved in 2004.
So in the next 21 years, it is going up by 29m to 50m - in simple arithmetic an increase of around 1.4 m a year every year. Can't be a*rsed to do the compound growth sum but I think that is about 5 % growth every year.......and that doesn't feel right especially given performance before the recession kicked in.
Isn't the UK market now mature with small growth rates overall? High % growth, especially from a large base can only come from an increasing market share - and MAN has been losing share for several years, especiallly to LPL down the road.
However nothing wrong with planning for the long term and if the Airport City happens, it will no doubt be good for jobs in the long run even if the airport doesn't grow as predicted as it doesn't seem to be directly linked to pax throughput.
Not sure what you mean by alternation - if you mean what happens at LHR, you can't do it with MAN's runways as they are too closely spaced and the thresholds are staggered. Hence there was little need for a parallel taxiway on 23L as the runway could only be used for departures in the 23 direction (or landings in the 05 direction) in a two runway operation. A parallel taxiway would only be used on the rare occasions when 05R/23L is used as a single runway and the cost (including a longer Bollin Tunnel) and environmental impact didn't stack up.
IF (big if) the rules change and the runways could both be used in mixed mode together there would be a need for a parallel. I'm not holding my breath.
Suzeman
Sir Howard Bernstein, chief executive of Manchester City Council, which has a 55 per cent stake in Manchester Airport Group, said: "It's a stunning opportunity to build on the airport's continued growth, and it is unlikely this could be created anywhere else in the UK.
The airport is planning for the long term, with passenger numbers expected to more than double to 50 million a year by 2030. Sir Howard said the recent slide in passenger numbers during the recession was a 'short-term blip' and added: "We have to prepare ourselves for the next 10 to 15 years.
The airport is planning for the long term, with passenger numbers expected to more than double to 50 million a year by 2030. Sir Howard said the recent slide in passenger numbers during the recession was a 'short-term blip' and added: "We have to prepare ourselves for the next 10 to 15 years.
There has been no growth since 2005, long before the current recession reared its head. Manchester reached the 22m mark in 2005 and there the figures stayed until 2008 when the downward trend started. The current 12 month figure is 20.7m, below that achieved in 2004.
So in the next 21 years, it is going up by 29m to 50m - in simple arithmetic an increase of around 1.4 m a year every year. Can't be a*rsed to do the compound growth sum but I think that is about 5 % growth every year.......and that doesn't feel right especially given performance before the recession kicked in.
Isn't the UK market now mature with small growth rates overall? High % growth, especially from a large base can only come from an increasing market share - and MAN has been losing share for several years, especiallly to LPL down the road.
However nothing wrong with planning for the long term and if the Airport City happens, it will no doubt be good for jobs in the long run even if the airport doesn't grow as predicted as it doesn't seem to be directly linked to pax throughput.
I think it was the final plan for Runway 2. Due to environmentalists, they had to abandon the full legnth taxiway to minimailse space needed.
A full legnth taxiway will enable more convinient alternation, rather than using the turning circle then backtracking
A full legnth taxiway will enable more convinient alternation, rather than using the turning circle then backtracking
IF (big if) the rules change and the runways could both be used in mixed mode together there would be a need for a parallel. I'm not holding my breath.
Suzeman
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Using 05R for departures would surely be a bad idea anyway? Which operators would be happy at the prospect of taxying best part of 2 miles to get to the threshold? It can take long enough to get to 05L especially if you're taxying from T2!!
As for the airport city idea, it worries me that MAG would be considering investing in yet more off site, non-core activities at a time when the key airport infrastructure is in need of investment. I appreciate that if you have the cash at the minute (which not many do) you can get premium land at a knock down price which may help bolster the balance sheet in the future. The fact remains that to build out such a development will be a further drain on capital resources and won't deliver any benefits in terms of additional revenues for years.
As for the airport city idea, it worries me that MAG would be considering investing in yet more off site, non-core activities at a time when the key airport infrastructure is in need of investment. I appreciate that if you have the cash at the minute (which not many do) you can get premium land at a knock down price which may help bolster the balance sheet in the future. The fact remains that to build out such a development will be a further drain on capital resources and won't deliver any benefits in terms of additional revenues for years.
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There are plenty of airports around the world with taxying distances as great or greater and plenty with queues so long that the fuel burn is far greater than that for a 05R Manchester departure.
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On 29th May, depart at 09:00 with First Choice to Sharm.
Any ideas on what aircraft type I'm most likely to be flying on? This info will help me decide if I should pre book seats to ensure we're together, aircraft config etc.
Thanks
Any ideas on what aircraft type I'm most likely to be flying on? This info will help me decide if I should pre book seats to ensure we're together, aircraft config etc.
Thanks
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On 29th May, depart at 09:00 with First Choice to Sharm.
Any ideas on what aircraft type I'm most likely to be flying on? This info will help me decide if I should pre book seats to ensure we're together, aircraft config etc.
Any ideas on what aircraft type I'm most likely to be flying on? This info will help me decide if I should pre book seats to ensure we're together, aircraft config etc.
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I had to buy a bag (well 2 for £1) @ LPL the other week when going to BCL - because the zip lock bag I had was 25cm x 25cm and not 20x20 The Tosser was loving it you'd think he worked for Peel not G4S 
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Right, I've got my zip lock bag ready for a MAN/HEL flight in 2 weeks.
Its an american bag, 20.5cm x 18 cm. The quantity is 1 Quart (US).
Wikipedia tells me that that is:- 0.946352946 ltrs.
Ive got my DfT regulation print out as well.
I dont need any liquids really so will put a couple of things in I was binning anyway.
I will put my lighter in as that counts towards my allowance (but DfT say that can be screened seperately).
Right , I'm ready, bring on the Jobsworths !!!!!
Sadly though, I cant believe I have go through this comedy sketch !!!!!
Its an american bag, 20.5cm x 18 cm. The quantity is 1 Quart (US).
Wikipedia tells me that that is:- 0.946352946 ltrs.
Ive got my DfT regulation print out as well.
I dont need any liquids really so will put a couple of things in I was binning anyway.
I will put my lighter in as that counts towards my allowance (but DfT say that can be screened seperately).
Right , I'm ready, bring on the Jobsworths !!!!!
Sadly though, I cant believe I have go through this
comedy sketch !!!!!
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Using 05R for departures would surely be a bad idea anyway? Which operators would be happy at the prospect of taxying best part of 2 miles to get to the threshold?
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Department for Transport - Liquids and air travel - what are the requirements?
20x20 for 1 litre volume it is.
20x20 for 1 litre volume it is.
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Amazing happening last Monday. From touchdown to being outside T3 with my baggage, just 15 minutes. 
However yesterday's return to AGP marred by a "blue nasty" security person.
Since when have security had the role of checking hand baggage size at MAN?
Bad, ill mannered, stout, balding, scowling, bespectacled and ignorant individual encountered yesterday at the ticket gate of T3 security. " Have you put that bag in the gauge?" was the question he uttered. "Yes, at check in and it fits well inside." I replied. "Come with me, I want to see" and takes me back to a Manchester Airport gauge at security entrance. When the bag fitted, the individual uttered "Umh" and let me pass. No "please, sorry" or any other intelligible word could he find.
I mentioned this individuals behavior to another pleasant, smiling security chap at the scanning machine and on pointing him out was told that he behaved that way to his colleagues and apologized for him.
So can somebody tell me, as well as who gave security the right to check bags for size, why is the ignoramus in a job? He is bad for the airport's image.
Or better still can anybody PM me with Muirhead's email address?
However yesterday's return to AGP marred by a "blue nasty" security person.
Since when have security had the role of checking hand baggage size at MAN?
Bad, ill mannered, stout, balding, scowling, bespectacled and ignorant individual encountered yesterday at the ticket gate of T3 security. " Have you put that bag in the gauge?" was the question he uttered. "Yes, at check in and it fits well inside." I replied. "Come with me, I want to see" and takes me back to a Manchester Airport gauge at security entrance. When the bag fitted, the individual uttered "Umh" and let me pass. No "please, sorry" or any other intelligible word could he find.
I mentioned this individuals behavior to another pleasant, smiling security chap at the scanning machine and on pointing him out was told that he behaved that way to his colleagues and apologized for him.
So can somebody tell me, as well as who gave security the right to check bags for size, why is the ignoramus in a job? He is bad for the airport's image.
Or better still can anybody PM me with Muirhead's email address?
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Bad, ill mannered, stout, balding, scowling, bespectacled and ignorant individual encountered yesterday at the ticket gate of T3 security. "
Or better still can anybody PM me with Muirhead's email address?
Or better still can anybody PM me with Muirhead's email address?
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VS are looking at expanding into the short haul market, presumably to feed their long haul operation from LHR but how will they do for slots? Until the 3rd runway is complete, there is very little...
What about seeing VA short haul at MAN? Lots of space and lots of opportunities. Seeing a copy of Virgin America at MAN would be pretty amazing!
What about seeing VA short haul at MAN? Lots of space and lots of opportunities. Seeing a copy of Virgin America at MAN would be pretty amazing!
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Short haul in Europe is falling and we are in a recession, the like of which we have never seen. Yields are dying, the majors are bleeding cash and even the locos are feeling the pain.
So does anyone familiar with Branson think he's actually got the working capital to undertake this massive new venture and underwrite the start up losses for 3-5 years?
Where would Virgin sit in the market? In the space vacated by BA? Filled to an extent by legacy carriers serving their foreign hubs, ie KLM / Air France / Lufthansa. In the low cost space where an increasingly vengeful and dangerous Ryanair lurk? Is he going to take on Stelios?
Come on guys get real, it's Branson. Classic attempt to divert attention from trouble at Virgin Atlantic ( not a criticism of a good airline, they're all in trouble to a greater or lesser extent ! ) by saying "Here's some amazing things we want to do but we know we never will."
So does anyone familiar with Branson think he's actually got the working capital to undertake this massive new venture and underwrite the start up losses for 3-5 years?
Where would Virgin sit in the market? In the space vacated by BA? Filled to an extent by legacy carriers serving their foreign hubs, ie KLM / Air France / Lufthansa. In the low cost space where an increasingly vengeful and dangerous Ryanair lurk? Is he going to take on Stelios?
Come on guys get real, it's Branson. Classic attempt to divert attention from trouble at Virgin Atlantic ( not a criticism of a good airline, they're all in trouble to a greater or lesser extent ! ) by saying "Here's some amazing things we want to do but we know we never will."
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The recession isn't something that lasts forever, it comes around every now and again as the economic cycle flows.
In 2 years it is expected to be the best time to start making investments.
In 2 years it is expected to be the best time to start making investments.
