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Found this link, a press release about the AA JFK route
Air & Business Travel News:
American Airlines announces new route from Manchester to New York (press release) | ABTN
This says that the service will be a seasonal summer service and shows a provisional AA210 07:55 arrival and AA22111:10 departure from MAN.
"American will fly the new route with two-class (Business and Economy) Boeing 757-200 aircraft reconfigured for international operations. The service will offer a total of 182 seats, including 16 lie-flat Business Class seats"
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Air & Business Travel News:
American Airlines announces new route from Manchester to New York (press release) | ABTN
This says that the service will be a seasonal summer service and shows a provisional AA210 07:55 arrival and AA22111:10 departure from MAN.
"American will fly the new route with two-class (Business and Economy) Boeing 757-200 aircraft reconfigured for international operations. The service will offer a total of 182 seats, including 16 lie-flat Business Class seats"
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The AA efforts have been handicapped by unwillingness of one airline to codeshare the route to MIA lest it handicapped their own LHR service; BOS I heard strange murmurings about that self-same airline doing their best to boost their BOS service by hiving off the lower fare pax to route via MAN. DFW was okay for the numbers carried but was not the most effective hub for where AA's ambitions lay. ORD is curious in that they got the route despite BA howling - the double daily services were operated summer-only for 3 years but I don't think 2 767s is the way forward if they want capacity and frequency. JFK will see them use the AA hub, you know the hub the airline I've accidentally forgotten the name of somehow neglected to work out that they could send 767s into and get the pax onward via codeshares on AA's services (if it works, I fail to see how BA couldn't get it to work).
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Has anyone ever noticed that Ametyst from Liverpool ALWAYS announces or comments on route/airline discontinuations from MAN? I don't think this has ever been mentioned before.
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so whats your point? - I am pleased somebody posts this information. I like to know what routes are going, what routes are starting as well as what routes may go or start (rumours)
Ringwayman - so what's the seat cost per km of a 757 operating out of a large crew/engineering base vs a 767 operating as a single unit?
BA always said that the reason they dropped the route was because "there is no call for longhaul travel from the regions"
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BA always said that the reason they dropped the route was because "there is no call for longhaul travel from the regions"
If MAN-JFK was such a fecking goldmine then explain why Delta just dumped it till next summer then?
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Those "Excellence awards in full"
1) Largest airport in the UK with the biggest network of unusable taxiways.
2) Largest airport in the UK to lose 60% of its US long haul schedules.
3) Largest airport in the UK to actually win a passenger "excellence award", this despite losing such a massive chunk of its operational schedules !
What on earth are they measuring, the % increase year on year on Geoff’s pension ?
We s/b up for a BAFTA next... "Titanic 2" bloody hell where's my
grief councillors number..!
1) Largest airport in the UK with the biggest network of unusable taxiways.
2) Largest airport in the UK to lose 60% of its US long haul schedules.
3) Largest airport in the UK to actually win a passenger "excellence award", this despite losing such a massive chunk of its operational schedules !
What on earth are they measuring, the % increase year on year on Geoff’s pension ?
We s/b up for a BAFTA next... "Titanic 2" bloody hell where's my
grief councillors number..!
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The term "customer" can cover a multitude of people, organisations etc. at airports. Clearly these awards do not cover every aspect. It's all marketing bulls**t, telling us all what they want us to hear. It doesn't just apply to MAN.
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what bitterness!!!
60% of amercian flights lost, where did you get that from, has GATWICK not lost nearly all its american flights to heathrow... whats left there now!!!
60% of amercian flights lost, where did you get that from, has GATWICK not lost nearly all its american flights to heathrow... whats left there now!!!
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As was pointed out these awards are absolute bunkum.....!
and to be honest I really couldn't give a stuff about Gatwick quite frankly !
If Heathrow had more runways and more terminals it would cease to exist, its a totally different proposition !
and to be honest I really couldn't give a stuff about Gatwick quite frankly !
If Heathrow had more runways and more terminals it would cease to exist, its a totally different proposition !
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Where do you get 60% lost, I make it about 45% and that includes an airline
that only does London and airline that no longer does long haul whch accounts for about 60% of what we have lost, of the others lost most are returning and we stand to gain some services next year.
Outside London Manchester probably has more services to US than the rest of the UK put together.
Heathrow has ridden the recession better than most in the UK due I guess to it`s position but the recession has hit the UK/US market very hard for several reasons
1, the banking collapse 2.the strength of the Dollar against pound 3. lack of money for holiday makers(double wammy with No2 factored in)
American Airlines and Delta have hurt very much over the last year or so and have cut back many routes not just from the UK but all over Europe
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that only does London and airline that no longer does long haul whch accounts for about 60% of what we have lost, of the others lost most are returning and we stand to gain some services next year.
Outside London Manchester probably has more services to US than the rest of the UK put together.
Heathrow has ridden the recession better than most in the UK due I guess to it`s position but the recession has hit the UK/US market very hard for several reasons
1, the banking collapse 2.the strength of the Dollar against pound 3. lack of money for holiday makers(double wammy with No2 factored in)
American Airlines and Delta have hurt very much over the last year or so and have cut back many routes not just from the UK but all over Europe
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Oh dear
Did anyone see the gentleman completely flip today
at T1 Jet2 check in, so much so he was spoken to by
the police and a few statements were given by staff and pax?
The gentleman is a Mr Meeson.
at T1 Jet2 check in, so much so he was spoken to by
the police and a few statements were given by staff and pax?
The gentleman is a Mr Meeson.
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Shouting at his own staff? Quite possible. (Many was the time at Channex in BOH.)
Shouting at MAN Security? Much wished-for activity for many of us, but quite dodgy!
Shouting at MAN Security? Much wished-for activity for many of us, but quite dodgy!
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There's a competition between DUB and MAN for extra Etihad services according to the Irish Times.
EY: Hi Sheik Emirates
, what are your plans for Manchester?EK: A380 by next year.
Press release the following day: ETIHAD INCREASE SERVICES TO DUBLIN.
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Phil Meeson ( Owner of JET2 for those who dont know ) was indeed cautioned by police today at MAN, so concerned were they that they even posted plain clothes officers at Jet2 check-in in case he came back !! Apparently he used the F-word more that Gorden Ramsey in front of passengers. I guess bullying young check-in girls and reducing them to tears makes him feel more of a man !!
