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Old 15th Dec 2009, 09:30
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Basically the MAN pax are propping up the LHR service.
Nothing new there then!
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 09:46
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Betablockeruk

Right!
export may earn little revenue for the airline.

but

1. They (aim to) cover all/some of the cost on the return leg.

2. Going back to the original point, "use/utilisation (or lack of) of the MAN cargo sheds... exports put volume and vital revenue thru the sheds.

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Old 15th Dec 2009, 09:49
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Part of Fedex has taken 4000 square feet of Builidng 303 in the Freight Terminal on a 3 year deal.
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 10:19
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I couldn't agree more. I fly to Australia twice a year and for the past 4 years, i have only chose Emirates. My past 3 experiences with them were very poor and i found the service dreadful. Great IFE etc but the service is slacking. I asked for a coke & a baileys and they said 'sorry sir you can only have 1 at a time'

I decided to fly Singapore this year and what a difference. It was well worth the transfer down to LHR (saved me £300 in total)!
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 14:00
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SQ SIN-MUC-MAN 5 weekly (x24) B773ER from 28th March
The best news I have heard in ages! I'll be trying their first class product to MUC and back with U2!
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 14:53
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Re BA Strike

Radio Manchester (otherwise known as Radio Pensioner), getting very animated and reporting

"significant contingency operation in process to deal with the impact of the BA strike at Manchester"

...I must be living in a space time continuum I could have sworn BA pulled out almost all services many years ago !

..also ironic to find that BBC News were trailing this story with a substantial number of shots ALL taken off 23R at Manchester ! An airport where BA abdicated responsibility many years ago and where the strike will have only a modest effect compared to the South East.

...at least if they do go down the pan the impact at Manchester will be modest !
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 15:47
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Is the Singapore service in addition to the current service? I'm a bit confused.
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 15:51
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where BA abdicated responsibility many years ago
Since when was offering seats on an aircraft a civic duty? Is this 1970? Is BA owned by us? Do BEA have a monopoly on European services from MAN?

Er....no. Join the 21st century. Loads of people will be screwed over by this with families trying to connect to flights from LHR and LGW from MAN. If you really want to see tens of thousands of good men and women out of work because of a militant uion bagso then you really are a pathetic shallow piece of work. Perhaps you should write "Serves you right" letters to the kids? Dear God man!

I'm not defending the utter car crash that this make or break dispute will bring, it will possibly bring down all of BA. I just get annoyed at the same old tripe regurgitated by the same old faces on here.

MAN has more of a fine network and a connection to the world than BA ever offered.
...at least if they do go down the pan the impact at Manchester will be modest !
"I'm alright Jack"?
Stop getting off on the real misery of others.


In other news...

The reason it is down to 3 a week from daily is the inability of SQ to fill there A380s out of LHR. If it went back to daily they would fill it. Basically the MAN pax are propping up the LHR service.
It's ALL London's fault! Always always always!

Am I right in thinking that going back to a one stop B77W to Singapore is a good move? I think the B77E direct has issues it seems...great news nonetheless, the SQ B77W is an impressive machine.
The best news I have heard in ages! I'll be trying their first class product to MUC and back with U2!
1) Stop name dropping
2) Is BONO paying and does the service have an EDGE?

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Old 15th Dec 2009, 19:59
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1) Stop name dropping
Sorry, I didn't realise we were posting on a BBC website.. - finally a use for that 'smile.'

Anyway, it could be either the orange low cost airline or the national airline of Germany. I think that is diplomatic as I can make it...

Am I right in thinking that going back to a one stop B77W to Singapore is a good move?
For the passenger and the airline it becomes a completely different ball game. When comparing EK's 77W, QR/EY A330s and the 77E of SQ, the latter was far behind for the level on board service and considering SQ are seen as one of the trend setters, it was a bit of a disappointment. Now they have shot straight into number one spot.

Also, as has been mentioned on a number of the ULH flights, they are becoming less lucrative for the simple reason of they are burning fuel to carry fuel. The SIN route, although not considered as an ULH route, was quite a distance for the 77E. This meant it was, as mentioned above, burning fuel to carry fuel. Maybe the stop will help with this.

I think the B77E direct has issues it seems...great news nonetheless, the SQ B77W is an impressive machine.
The 77W overall is an awesome machine, especially with the, I hate to admit it, GE engines. They are HUGE. Also, as mentioned above, the onboard service is second only to their own and EK's A380s.
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 23:07
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If CX are keen to add some extra freight capacity MAN way, they could always do the unthinkable and put a couple of pax flights a week into MAN with huge belly hold capacity ???? but as Manchester has one of the largest Chinese communities in the UK, it's never gonna happen is it?
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Old 15th Dec 2009, 23:31
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Can someone please tell me how many flights a week Qatar do into Man and what aircraft type does the job?
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 00:41
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Their website says a daily service and usually A333.
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 02:59
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According to the Machester Airport website press release regarding the airports toilets winning Loo of the Year Awards 'Our passengers get through 43,930,000 metres of toilet roll each year - if ‘unrolled’ this would stretch the equivalent distance of flying Manchester to Singapore (10,938 km) four times – or – Manchester to New York (5,385 km) eight times'

Given that Manchester has about 21 million passengers a year each passenger uses an average of 2m of toilet roll.

This says a lot about the standards of catering at MAN.
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 06:49
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Headline figure from SQ on their network performance in November is that they had "filled 72.3% of space available for passengers".
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Is the Singapore service in addition to the current service? I'm a bit confused.
Up to 27th March SQ is flying 3 weekly nonstop SIN-MAN and from 28th March SQ will fly 5 weekly SIN-MUC-MAN and you can book MAN-MUC.
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 12:10
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Headline figure from SQ on their network performance in November is that they had "filled 72.3% of space available for passengers".
On their entire network?

If not - then it means approx. 20% of MAN's SQ loads are based on non-revs.
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 15:44
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It's yields that matter, not loads. Thats why half empty aircraft flying from LHR/LGW to wherever usually make more money for airlines despite the higher airport costs.
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 15:50
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Dear Skipness

Clearly we are not worthy....!

However for your benefit I will clarify that this is an open forum and basically you can post whatever comes to mind, BUT if you are going to challenge a posting please to try to read the postings thoroughly first, reading is so important !


Since when was offering seats on an aircraft a civic duty?


Where did I suggest it was? BA pulled out of Manchester and centralised on Heathrow, good luck to them, it was a commercial decision, I merely pointed out that because of this, the impact would not be as great as it might have been a few years ago ! I wasn't suggesting that Manchester has a divine right to be served by the national carrier, but fortunately as a number of airlines have successfully replaced them, it does suggest that they missed an opportunity, and as a result the impact on Manchester will by comparison be negligible!

You seem to be suggesting that the term "abdicate" used in the context of my posting implies "offering seats on an aircraft a civic duty "

Definition of the term adbdicate To forgo, To surrender, To give up, To abandon, To relinquish.....

Er....no. Join the 21st century. Loads of people will be screwed over by this with families trying to connect to flights from LHR and LGW from MAN.

Never suggested that either ! To suggest I am gloating as a result of this
is clearly puerile nonsense !


If you really want to see tens of thousands of good men and women out of work because of a militant uion (its union) bagso then you really are a pathetic shallow piece of work. Perhaps you should write "Serves you right" letters to the kids? Dear God man!


..... clearly you need more clarification, very tiresome !

It was 92% of those quote...good men and women who voted to take this action, knowing full well the consequences, do please enlighten us with your wisdom as to how on earth the result of a "freely taken vote" can be blamed on the union ?

...at least if they do go down the pan the impact at Manchester will be modest !

er true again ...sorry but I am more interested in the commercial impact on Manchester than Heathrow and Gatwick ! The observation was made in the context that the hysterical media were quoting this is a "national disaster which will affect us all ... it won't !
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 16:53
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DUB has one the extra 3 weekly flight EY said it would add to either DUB or MAN, not great news for MAN but with competition from QR and EK at MAN, DUB was going to have a small advantage.
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Old 16th Dec 2009, 18:53
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As already discussed earlier in the thread, official confirmation of the SIN-MUC-MAN 5 weekly SQ operation:

http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.n...df?openelement
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