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E-Jet reliability is superb and passenger cabin comfort is probably the best of any type in service on short-haul routes. If you get disrupted on an Embraer flight, it's probably the knock-on effects within the schedule from another one of the bloody Q400s going tech. If you'd asked the question of the Q400 fleet, you'd get quite a different answer - it's an atrocious aircraft in almost every respect ranging from tech reliability to passenger experience. I've never yet touched down in one of the damn things without wondering whether we'd been shot down or just landed normally. If the Argentinians invade the Falklands again, no need to send a Vulcan this time - just send a Q400 to do some touch & gos and the runway will be cratered beyond repair after a few circuits - if it doesn't go tech before it completes them, of course.
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Thanks for all your replies,very interesting to hear from you,LMS,regarding the reboot on the E-Jets.I'm glad that the Flybe ones are doing fine.I have heard that the E-Jets don't like the cold, perhaps that explains why they played up in the early morning.
I do fly with Flybe several times a year and sometimes I'm lucky to catch the 195 which has been very nice indeed!My last few flights were on the Q400,which I must admit is not so pleasant.I have to admit,I'm not a fan of the Q400.Funny enough,every time I go on the Q400 there is a fault with these damn spindles and I also hate the landings,always rough.On the E-Jets,it's a totally different story,always smooth landings and no delays.I agree with Flightrider,the Q400 is a piece of junk.I pray that Flybe will dump them all and go Embraer the whole way.There are many other pax who share the same view.Unfortunatly Southampton seems to be swamped with the props and our E-Jets seem to have vanished,possibly to BHX.We only have 2 now which is a great shame.
I do fly with Flybe several times a year and sometimes I'm lucky to catch the 195 which has been very nice indeed!My last few flights were on the Q400,which I must admit is not so pleasant.I have to admit,I'm not a fan of the Q400.Funny enough,every time I go on the Q400 there is a fault with these damn spindles and I also hate the landings,always rough.On the E-Jets,it's a totally different story,always smooth landings and no delays.I agree with Flightrider,the Q400 is a piece of junk.I pray that Flybe will dump them all and go Embraer the whole way.There are many other pax who share the same view.Unfortunatly Southampton seems to be swamped with the props and our E-Jets seem to have vanished,possibly to BHX.We only have 2 now which is a great shame.
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Its customers like you that cause airlines to go bankrupt. Luckily the majoity of people don't care what the aircraft feels or looks like on a small sector that the Q's fly on.
Ask yourself this Flightrider, which out of the Q and the Emb fly the most sectors in one given day? Like with anything, the more you use it, the more worn its going to get
Ask yourself this Flightrider, which out of the Q and the Emb fly the most sectors in one given day? Like with anything, the more you use it, the more worn its going to get
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I can echo the sentiments on the Q400, think I flew to Glasgow four times on them, didn't make it back on time once, on two occasions the aircraft went tech, and ended up being delayed 2-3hrs.
Another time, aircraft went tech, the flight was cancelled, and all the passengers booted onto the later flight, which was upgraded to an Embraer, which was lovely in comparisons, greats seats and legroom!
The third time admittedly was not the aircrafts fault, was when the private aircraft hit the ILS transmitter at BHX, ended up on baby to EMA.
Another time, aircraft went tech, the flight was cancelled, and all the passengers booted onto the later flight, which was upgraded to an Embraer, which was lovely in comparisons, greats seats and legroom!
The third time admittedly was not the aircrafts fault, was when the private aircraft hit the ILS transmitter at BHX, ended up on baby to EMA.
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I've flown on about 5 Q400 FlyBe flights this year and only once was delayed due to technical problems (a faulty door at BHD), the other delays were weather related.
I'll echo all the comments made here about the Q400. I really dislike the little plane and try to avoid flying on them. It's always bumpy on landing and takeoff, noisy, claustrophobic etc. By comparison I love the Flybe E-Jets but I don't think they are as comfortable as an A320 but a hell of a more comfortable than a Q400.
I'll echo all the comments made here about the Q400. I really dislike the little plane and try to avoid flying on them. It's always bumpy on landing and takeoff, noisy, claustrophobic etc. By comparison I love the Flybe E-Jets but I don't think they are as comfortable as an A320 but a hell of a more comfortable than a Q400.
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The Q400 is still top of its class when it comes to turboprops in terms of speed and noise levels, try a Fokker 50 or an ATR42 (both flown from the UK and Ireland) and then see that the Q400 isn't bad from a passenger perspective.
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I know comfort is a very subjective thing but my flights on the ATR have been far more comfortable than those on the Dash 8. I've flown on the Fokker 50 but too many years ago to be able to remember how it compared.
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I know comfort is a very subjective thing but my flights on the ATR have been far more comfortable than those on the Dash 8. I've flown on the Fokker 50 but too many years ago to be able to remember how it compared.
Never been on a Saab 2000, but I have been on the similar looking BAe ATP.
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Ok so going on some of your arguements the Q is terrible and should be removed from service. In the event that the money men at flybe ever pander to such pampered points of view then watch half of flybe's network dissapear. Then all you moaners can get on the always punctual, never break down bus/train 
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Nice thought, but there aren't any.
ATR Vs Dash, don't know, never flown on an ATR, the Dash does have superb engines though whatever else you say about it. They're V powerful, reliable and don't use much fuel, and thats why Flybe will be hanging on to them for quite a bit to come.
Nice thought, but there aren't any.
ATR Vs Dash, don't know, never flown on an ATR, the Dash does have superb engines though whatever else you say about it. They're V powerful, reliable and don't use much fuel, and thats why Flybe will be hanging on to them for quite a bit to come.
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There is only a looks thing between the Saab 2000 and the ATP.
The S2000 is one of the best turboprops ever built.
The ATP on the other hand, the worst.
The Q400 is a good machine, like all things it can have it's off days.
It keeps some of us in jobs!
The S2000 is one of the best turboprops ever built.
The ATP on the other hand, the worst.
The Q400 is a good machine, like all things it can have it's off days.
It keeps some of us in jobs!
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Q400 -luxury ..... sheer luxury
Aye, I tell thee, when I was a lad we didn't have Quiet 400's. We had Belfast's finest, tha Shorts 360. Twas the nearest thing to flying in an aluminium shed I have ever been. We had to wind the elastic bands ourselves and the catering was handful of gravel....
(credit to Monty Python)
(credit to Monty Python)