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Anybody any idea when the extra BHD/EMA flights are due to start?
...and when they will be available to book?
...and when they will be available to book?
It's shocking that none of flights can be books yet, what are they playing at?
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It's shocking that none of flights can be books yet, what are they playing at?
I guess that unless you have a few Dash 8's kicking around in your back garden at competitive rates then it will take them a bit of time.
To ease things, they are at least letting people book the BHX flights with the opportunity to transfer these to EMA when flights are available.
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The fleet is far from fully utilised at the moment. There are several airframes around the network operating 2 short sectors and then sitting around for a number of hours before flying again. I suspect the difficulty may lie in adjusting the current schedules to make adequate space for the new sectors as they wont conveniently slot in with the above-mentioned down time.
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So Im betting ten quid to a mouldy haggis that before you know it Logie and Granite get together as Scotlands airline. Maybe this is all part of the master plan at BA and Granite joins the FlyBe franchise club.......or not.
Any Jocks know whats really happening cos both Lakie and Exeter must have been upset their bids were topped by the Scottish mafia.
Any Jocks know whats really happening cos both Lakie and Exeter must have been upset their bids were topped by the Scottish mafia.
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Not sure if Flybe ever had a bid in other than their initial consultation with Lufthansa. Did hear a rumour that they were told to back off by the monopolies lot though, which would make sense considering their growing share of the regional market.
As for the franchise side of things, just remember, Loganair made a profit last year and Flybe did not, it can't be that bad a deal.
As for the franchise side of things, just remember, Loganair made a profit last year and Flybe did not, it can't be that bad a deal.
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While waiting for a flight a few months ago, I overheard two BE suits discussing the prospects for BMI-R. They referred to the acquisition and integration of BAcon and all it's jungle jets as "almost killing us last time" - there didn't seem to be much appetite for doing it all over again.
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GLA/EDI
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As I mentioned a few posts back flybe have 67 aircraft at present per Jethro's and another 175 is due for BHX-STR/HAM from 1/6/2012.
Assuming that it arrives that will be 68 aircraft with a requirement of 60-62 per day (not sure of any further lease hand-backs). In theory that sounds fine but as others have mentioned there is planned maintenance to consider and possible crewing issues.
The spare 195 at BHX if used on the early morning Q400 flight to BHD (not showing as yet) will free up one more Dash. The only problem with that is that this same spare 195 is still virtually flying every weekday covering Q400 flights to Hanover/Stuttgart/Aberdeen etc.
I am sure that other options might come to light before 10 September.
It seems Aer Lingus Regional have pulled back from announcing BHX-NOC another route for flybe to consider?
Pete
As I mentioned a few posts back flybe have 67 aircraft at present per Jethro's and another 175 is due for BHX-STR/HAM from 1/6/2012.
Assuming that it arrives that will be 68 aircraft with a requirement of 60-62 per day (not sure of any further lease hand-backs). In theory that sounds fine but as others have mentioned there is planned maintenance to consider and possible crewing issues.
The spare 195 at BHX if used on the early morning Q400 flight to BHD (not showing as yet) will free up one more Dash. The only problem with that is that this same spare 195 is still virtually flying every weekday covering Q400 flights to Hanover/Stuttgart/Aberdeen etc.
I am sure that other options might come to light before 10 September.
It seems Aer Lingus Regional have pulled back from announcing BHX-NOC another route for flybe to consider?
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GJEDL was heading for EMA's paintshop on Thursday night I believe according to the flight deck that were flying it as they were dropping it off there after the BE197 IOMBHX
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Q400's
Thank you for the replies re the Q400 leases especially "DL"
Using that information can we assume that is it for 2012?
"DM" was delivered 18/7/03 and "DN" 31/7/13 and I trust they
will go in 2013.
Also is there any scope to accelerate the delivery of the 175's
if required?
Pete
Using that information can we assume that is it for 2012?
"DM" was delivered 18/7/03 and "DN" 31/7/13 and I trust they
will go in 2013.
Also is there any scope to accelerate the delivery of the 175's
if required?
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Considering much of the 'Making Flying Better' campaign is underpinned by using the Ejet, it might not be a bad idea to accelerate those deliveries (if it can be done by Embraer) Imagine all of the disappointed people thinking that they are about to board a shiny new Ejet with wifi and all the rest of it only to be greeted by a tired old Q4; which is still the mainstay of the fleet by a long way. Making Flying Better it does not...
Perhaps one of the reasons for a slow fleet renewal is difficulty shifting the Dashes? I know that the airline will struggle to convert crews over and still cover the existing schedule if new Ejets were coming thick and fast.
Perhaps one of the reasons for a slow fleet renewal is difficulty shifting the Dashes? I know that the airline will struggle to convert crews over and still cover the existing schedule if new Ejets were coming thick and fast.
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Is 'difficulty shifting the Dashes' actually FlyBe's problem? If they reach the end of their initial 10 year lease, presumably they become someone else's responsibilty. If Flybe try to shed them early, this presumably comes with a financial cost.
I'm also not sure it is fair to describe them as tired. I fly them very frequently, and if you get one of the G-ECxx or G-FLxx series, they are in very good nick from a passenger perspective. OK a shiny new E175 would be better, but they can't swap out 30+ aircraft overnight.
I'm also not sure it is fair to describe them as tired. I fly them very frequently, and if you get one of the G-ECxx or G-FLxx series, they are in very good nick from a passenger perspective. OK a shiny new E175 would be better, but they can't swap out 30+ aircraft overnight.