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Article this morning from Birmingham Post this morning seems to be confirming new route.
Flybe launches new route from Birmingham to Waterford - Latest Business News - Business News - Business - Birmingham Post
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Flybe launches new route from Birmingham to Waterford - Latest Business News - Business News - Business - Birmingham Post
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I dont get it. Last week the shares collapsed as Jim French told the city BE sales were s*** 
so capacity and costs were being cut to tighten it all up. Yesterday Andy strong announces 7 new marginal routes................. 
Come back Mr rutter all is forgiven (almost.)
so capacity and costs were being cut to tighten it all up. Yesterday Andy strong announces 7 new marginal routes................. Come back Mr rutter all is forgiven (almost.)
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It is official: the lunatics are now running Jack Walker House. Not only is Birmingham-Waterford being started daily, but this leisure route is being run at a very good late afternoon schedule although Birmingham-Hamburg, a route with some business travel potential, remains on a poor mid-morning slot so will never realise its maximum revenue. Madness and mindless.
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Reading the comments re Flybe for Waterford Birmingham, based on the size of the aircraft and the frequency it would seem that the route will have more seats than Waterford's traditionally most successful route to Luton.
Based on the state of current affairs at Flybe one could infer that they are being incentivised in some way by Waterford in an attempt to put the airport firmly on the map. Waterford is also going to receive government for the time being according to government comments.
Lets hope that the route makes the break and BE see opportunities at Waterford.
EI-BUD
Based on the state of current affairs at Flybe one could infer that they are being incentivised in some way by Waterford in an attempt to put the airport firmly on the map. Waterford is also going to receive government for the time being according to government comments.
Lets hope that the route makes the break and BE see opportunities at Waterford.
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Wasn't Waterford-Luton a twice-daily ATR72 until Aer Arann's new shareholders (Stobart) decided that everyone would really rather go to Southend?
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LTN was at least twice daily, maybe even thrice at one point on certain days. RE did run BHX-WAT six days per week at one point on a 72, and progressively risen fares and cut capacity. BE also much better known in the midlands and as has been said plenty of connections. It can always be peared down for winter.
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I just hope there are no other surprises due to the Waterford service, as the
schedule as a whole no longer fits nine based aircraft (not counting spares).
The Waterford inbound to BHX connects outbound with ABZ, GLA, EDI, BHD, IOM, DND, DUS, CDG most week days. The Waterford outbound from BHX connects with very little within 90 minutes (HAM/CDG/BHD/INV). Extend it to 120/150 minutes then the likes of EDI, GLA, ABZ come in range.
It seems a bit lopsided for connections.
Albert Hall
I see your point and pax figures are heading south but that is another route that has gone downhill with the introduction of a lot of capacity at Manchester - co-incidence?
Pete
schedule as a whole no longer fits nine based aircraft (not counting spares).
The Waterford inbound to BHX connects outbound with ABZ, GLA, EDI, BHD, IOM, DND, DUS, CDG most week days. The Waterford outbound from BHX connects with very little within 90 minutes (HAM/CDG/BHD/INV). Extend it to 120/150 minutes then the likes of EDI, GLA, ABZ come in range.
It seems a bit lopsided for connections.
Albert Hall
I see your point and pax figures are heading south but that is another route that has gone downhill with the introduction of a lot of capacity at Manchester - co-incidence?
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WAT-LTN was actualy 17 weekly during the summer of 2010. 14 direct from WAT (72) and the other 3 split with GWY (72).
On another note WAT managment made a comment that they are looking at a number of other routes with BE.
On another note WAT managment made a comment that they are looking at a number of other routes with BE.
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Im told BE are moving at least one and probly two Q400s to ABZ for the summer to take on BMI regional. Seems the first one is the BHX aircraft from IOM
and BHX IOM will go back to a BHX based Q4.
and BHX IOM will go back to a BHX based Q4.
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I'm amazed that FlyBE get any business. It can only be on the routes where they have a monopoly. Each time I try and book with them I find them a lot more expensive than the competition (LH on my last two occasions).
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Bloomberg reporting that BMI regional sale to a UK based company agreed subject to certain "pre conditions". Flybe perhaps? Seat compensation as per the BACON deal re unsold seats on 145s? Would certainly enable BE to push up fares a bit by erradicating competion on certain routes.
Hotel Tango. Ive noticed for some time that LH are indeed cheaper to DUS than BE ex MAN. Bags drinks and a snack all included with LH. I suppose humans are creatures of habit, some being hard to break.
Hotel Tango. Ive noticed for some time that LH are indeed cheaper to DUS than BE ex MAN. Bags drinks and a snack all included with LH. I suppose humans are creatures of habit, some being hard to break.
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I'm amazed that FlyBE get any business
Ive noticed for some time that LH are indeed cheaper to DUS than BE ex MAN. Bags drinks and a snack all included with LH
Bloomberg reporting that BMI regional sale to a UK based company agreed subject to certain "pre conditions".
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But, will BE want a fleet of E145s again
Andrew Strong said Flybe had no interest in BMIR,............unless the price was right
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The Bloomberg report actually says "a deal has also been concluded with a U.K.buyer ............subject to certain preconditions."
Nothing to suggest it is necessarily an existing airline, such as BE, just a buyer.......
Nothing to suggest it is necessarily an existing airline, such as BE, just a buyer.......