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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 09:49
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St Germain - I'm not sure if cost comes into it. If both CDG and ORY were profitable it would come down to when the best chance to make money would be.

Personally, I imagine that the primary reason for serving ORY rather than CDG is that ORY is more of a business destination. Prior to the codeshare agreement with AF, BE operated CDG and AF, ORY. I very much expect that both routes were analysed to see just where the yield and performance was better.

In respect of connections, I'm not sure this is as relevent given the distance between SOU and LHR. If it we me, I would much rather take a short drive/train to LHR and fly direct than connect over CDG.....have you been to CDG lately??
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 20:01
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Sou Orly

I think they probably did look at both Orly and Cdg seeing as they were both being operated to see which was the better deal. Just surprising for an airline to serve Cdg at all its other airports and Orly at just Sou.
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 05:49
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Web Site

On a slightly different matter (not sure where to post this) have been trying to book flybe flights for next year but flybe.com appears not to be working most of yesterday (23rd) and still not working today (24th). Got on once at work yesterday and tried several time from various places including mobile BB to make sure its not my PC. Anyone else having problems?
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 10:01
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This message currently appears on their website

"We are currently experiencing intermittent problems with flybe.com. We are doing everything within our capability to ensure that the problem is rectified as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused."
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 10:23
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I, and others in my family, have tried from several locations and devices since Thursday evening without any sort of success.

Rather than suffering 'intermitent problems' it appears to be totally dead.

The updates on social media sites on progress are also nearly 24 hours old.
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 10:50
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Just accessed the website with no problems albeit from overseas but don't know of that would make any difference.
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 10:56
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I was on it ok yesterday and today have managed fine albeit a bit slower than normal - this is why they call it intermitent problems.
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Old 26th Dec 2011, 18:51
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Check in identification

Dear All

Flybe customer services are closed at the moment but I have an urgent question if anyone can help me with.

Flybe customer services informed me earlier today that a 15 year old can travel on their own domestically (In the UK) without photographic id but with a debit card providing they are checked in with an adult at the airport.

Can anyone confirm this is the case as the website implies differently that photographic id is required.

Please reply or PM me.

Many thanks in advance


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Old 26th Dec 2011, 19:43
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Not sure what bit of the website youre looking at but when I read it is says
"Children under the age of 16 do not need to show ID on domestic routes. The adult they are travelling with can vouch for the infant's/child's identification, providing the relevant photo ID is shown (by the adult). "
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seems pretty clear cut to me
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 06:50
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The OP was asking about an unaccompanied minor:

Flybe customer services informed me earlier today that a 15 year old can travel on their own domestically (In the UK) without photographic id but with a debit card providing they are checked in with an adult at the airport.
CabinCrewe's response relates to an accompanied minor

"Children under the age of 16 do not need to show ID on domestic routes. The adult they are travelling with can vouch for the infant's/child's identification, providing the relevant photo ID is shown (by the adult). "
The relevant bit on the FlyBe website seems to support comments from the Flybe customer services

Rules and regulations for unaccompanied children

To be 'accompanied', the companion of a child must be over 16 years of age.

Identification of the escort on departure & escort on arrival will be checked, and the child signed for, in line with current policy.

If a child is not travelling with their parent or legal guardian, he or she must carry their own identification. If no identification is available please contact us. You will need to send a copy of the photo identification from the parents and confirm that the child is travelling with their consent.

Passengers aged between 12 and 16 years who are not travelling as an unaccompanied child require their own photographic identification.

For passengers on international flights a valid passport or national identity card will need to be presented. Other documentation such as a visa should also be sought if required.
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 10:04
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Dear All

Many thanks for the replies which have highlighted the issue.

You can travel unaccompanied on FLYBE if you are over 12 and you do not need to use the escort service which I understand is optional.

The post from cabincrewe relates to children under 16 travelling with adults and is not relevant to this situation.

I believe the comments from SWBKCB related to the FLYBE escorted travel service which again is not relevant to this situation.

Speaking to FLYBE customer services just now they now say that you can not travel with a debit card as ID and you need to travel using the FLYBE escorted travel service.

This situation does not seem to be well explained on the website or at least it has myself and the FLYBE customer services confused.

Kind regards


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Old 27th Dec 2011, 10:23
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I've seen a lot of BE cabin crew and:

you do not need to use the escort service
It's not a service id pay them for!
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 10:36
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It seems to be perfectly clear from the 2nd last paragraph from the website as posted by SWBKCB. Your unaccompanied 15 year old needs their own photo ID.
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 18:02
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The policies seem clear to me -

Passengers aged between 12 and 16 years who are not travelling as an unaccompanied child require their own photographic identification.
I expect that the Customer Services rep, thinking the child didnt have any photo ID, suggested a debit card to ensure they could travel. Unfortunately the second rep felt that this wasnt appropriate and therefore the unaccompanied minor service now needs to be paid for.

Just get the child a citizen card and then you wont have to ask these questions for future BE domestic services.

It's not a service id pay them for!
It is a matter of personal choice. I wouldnt let my child travel on their own out of principle - a 13 year old would not neccesarily feel comfortable if the aircraft had a problem or was diverted to an airport which they had never been to before. At least with the service paid for, the staff have a process in place to deal with them.
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 18:30
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I hope you're not making some sort of personal attack on any of my cabincrew with comments like that, are you questioning their ability to carry out their duties? If you aren't could you edit your post, if you are - well I've no wish to post anything further on this thread with people like yourself making such wildly inaccurate and derogatory posts
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 18:49
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BOSD,

Definitely not incapable of doing their job. I was more edging towards their lacking in sexual appeal.
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 18:51
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So which escort services are you frequenting JSCL? Or are you still relying on your smooth way with words to get the ladies onside?
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 18:53
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Definitely the words! Unfortunately, I find I travel Jet2 rarely, so my words often don't get much practice. (I joke)
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Old 28th Dec 2011, 05:12
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What's the story about a Flybe crew having a bit or a lot of an upset down at CMF a few weeks back. A mate just back from skiing said a group in his chalet had flown into to CMF with Flybe and diverted after a missed approach that was rough, scared sh****ss was how the CC had put it. On his return flight he asked the crew if they had heard anything and they said the flight crew were on leave? Due to busting various speed limits?
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Old 28th Dec 2011, 11:09
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I doubt you'll get an answer to that from anybody who actually knows.
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