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I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE
jetstreamtechrecords,
Any airline which is still operating well into the black in the current economic climate must be doing something right. In fact I don't know if any other major UK airline can say the same thing and yet here you are having a go as usual. Try and take a fresh, objective look at BE. They're doing a fantastic job.
Any airline which is still operating well into the black in the current economic climate must be doing something right. In fact I don't know if any other major UK airline can say the same thing and yet here you are having a go as usual. Try and take a fresh, objective look at BE. They're doing a fantastic job.
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Jetstream - I think you need to look outside of the big numbers.
Pax numbers might be 20% down as you say, but I very much doubt that Flybe are still operating the same volume of schedules this year that they were last year! If Flybe has cut its own schedules by 20% then their operating costs will have reduced similarly and they are in fact much better off than you may percieve.
I'm sure that Flybe, like all airlines in this country will be struggling in such economic times but you can be damn sure that Flybe will be suffering far less than most others in the UK.
Pax numbers might be 20% down as you say, but I very much doubt that Flybe are still operating the same volume of schedules this year that they were last year! If Flybe has cut its own schedules by 20% then their operating costs will have reduced similarly and they are in fact much better off than you may percieve.
I'm sure that Flybe, like all airlines in this country will be struggling in such economic times but you can be damn sure that Flybe will be suffering far less than most others in the UK.
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With regards IOM figures the early part of 2008 saw the market saturated with very cheap seats from BE and Euromanx. This in turn probably saw people simply travelling just because they good get a very cheap fare. Now in 2009 with some consolidation on IOM routes things will hopefully level out....
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This weeks paper says the Steam Packet figures are up year on year too, this also backs up FS01's previous post of a leveling off and return to the norm following last year's battle.
Flybe's greatest strength is it's agility and ability to move quickly to trim fat, cut excess capacity and react to changes that allow for opportunities when they arise. That is why they will see out this recession in a far healthier state than nearly all competitors.
Flybe's greatest strength is it's agility and ability to move quickly to trim fat, cut excess capacity and react to changes that allow for opportunities when they arise. That is why they will see out this recession in a far healthier state than nearly all competitors.
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I haven't seen the figures for myself, but I was in a Q&A with a Flybe director last week who said pax figures in Jan and Feb were down around 10% overall, but obviously that will vary from day to day and route to route. He also said that forward bookings are running about 8% below last year which he said was "manageable".
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I haven't seen the figures for myself, but I was in a Q&A with a Flybe director last week who said pax figures in Jan and Feb were down around 10% overall, but obviously that will vary from day to day and route to route. He also said that forward bookings are running about 8% below last year which he said was "manageable".
Sou down 20%,Ext same. Its 
tough out there
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Jethro's fleets listing show G-FBEO/P due this year, but I've never been able to find any reference elsewhere to the order being increased to 16, to include these, so it would be good if someone well connected could confirm these are really due.
In the same vein, does anyone know when the next Q400's are due. It's almost 2 months since G-ECOO arrived and OP and OR have been reported complete in Toronto for a few weeks, so it certainly looks as if the original delivery plan is slipping, in the current climate.
Anyone have the facts?
In the same vein, does anyone know when the next Q400's are due. It's almost 2 months since G-ECOO arrived and OP and OR have been reported complete in Toronto for a few weeks, so it certainly looks as if the original delivery plan is slipping, in the current climate.
Anyone have the facts?
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Yea they are getting a new Dash sometime this month, its going to BHD where it will replace the ATR from Aer Arann they had on wet lease, and to pick up the extra sectors as the Summer schedule kicks in.
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The 195s are still only options, which are unlikely to be taken up in the forseeable future.
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I can't answer for JER or BHD but I really wouldn't fancy doing ABZ or INV in the dash. I'm sure INV has a block time of around 2 hours. I am sure JER & BHD ran with 146's before they were phased out INV certainly was 146 in the BAcon days and ABZ is new to them.
I am sure the 195s were replaced 146 for 195. Guernsey was to get one to replace their 146 but there are issues with the runway down there and there competitor runs with props.
I am sure the 195s were replaced 146 for 195. Guernsey was to get one to replace their 146 but there are issues with the runway down there and there competitor runs with props.
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INV-LGW in a Q400
Have done INV-LGW on the Q400 several times(which flybe operate at weekends on this route during the last few months Sat S2 and Sun S2) and was pleasently suprised. Block time was about 1:40 so a bit slower than the E195 but not noticeably (flybe schedule the sectors for 1:45 anyway). Wasn't as cramped or noisy as I had expected, and as allways the INV based Cabin Crews make the trip enjoyable.
The LGW route is back up to 3x E195 I believe from the start of the Summer timetable as the INV-SOU is going back onto the INV based Q400.
Have also noticed a big improvement in reliability on this route in the last 12 months in terms of punctuality.
Anyway just throwing my tuppence into the arena..
The LGW route is back up to 3x E195 I believe from the start of the Summer timetable as the INV-SOU is going back onto the INV based Q400.
Have also noticed a big improvement in reliability on this route in the last 12 months in terms of punctuality.
Anyway just throwing my tuppence into the arena..
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Dash cruises at just under 360kt TAS, which is a bit slower than the 146-200 used to be, but not that much, while burning around 1000kg an hour - you can see why the bean counters love it. Putting it onto off-peak longer routes in the winter makes sense if you know you aren't going to fill a 195. Granted it isnt as spacious as the 195, but give me a Dash seat over a middle seat 3-3 layout on a 146/RJ anyday. The time difference on a domestic sector between a Q400 and a jet is usually between 5 and 15 mins longer depending on sector length - if the price is right and the dep times suit their schedule, most pax wont care what they fly on.