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It was mentioned in one press article that the monopolies and mergers commission are getting interested as the proposed purchase of bmi regional would mean that flybe has the largest regional airline by far. Loganair, Bacon and Bmi regional routes - surely it will only be Eastern left as competition on a regional basis?
It seems strange to me that bmir have just taken delivery of an ex flybe 145 for what may turn out to be a very short period of time. Also recently promoting 6 Fos to captain and recruiting 6 new FOs. Understandably any high levels of spending at the moment (ie type ratings, training, recruitment and upgrade courses) has to be signed off by head office in Donnington. Therefore surely this wouldnt have been sanctioned if it was known of an imminent sale of bmir, that would result in possible redundancies/re type rating. Unless flymaybe want to keep the 145s until new aircraft arrive and hence need new bmir crews, or maybe management knew nothing of this possible sale - which i find odd as it has been a rumour on the internet for over a year, including pprune.
any ex bacon drivers on here want to tell me what the crash8 is like to fly and how flybe treat you in general?
is it true that you are pay frozen until you catch up with flybes pay scales? i.e no payrises!!
Anyone hear when netjets are recruiting again.....?
It seems strange to me that bmir have just taken delivery of an ex flybe 145 for what may turn out to be a very short period of time. Also recently promoting 6 Fos to captain and recruiting 6 new FOs. Understandably any high levels of spending at the moment (ie type ratings, training, recruitment and upgrade courses) has to be signed off by head office in Donnington. Therefore surely this wouldnt have been sanctioned if it was known of an imminent sale of bmir, that would result in possible redundancies/re type rating. Unless flymaybe want to keep the 145s until new aircraft arrive and hence need new bmir crews, or maybe management knew nothing of this possible sale - which i find odd as it has been a rumour on the internet for over a year, including pprune.
any ex bacon drivers on here want to tell me what the crash8 is like to fly and how flybe treat you in general?
is it true that you are pay frozen until you catch up with flybes pay scales? i.e no payrises!!
Anyone hear when netjets are recruiting again.....?
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embraerFObmi.
I'm not sure if it's the same for you drivers, as an ex BACON engineer I left when Fly(may)Be took over for the simple reason that I would not have recieved a pay rise for 3 years due to being "red ringed". I couldn't live with that and obviously couldn't afford it.
Fly(may)Be destroyed a fantastic base and bunch of Manchester engineers and will probably do the same if the Bmir take over goes through.
As for the service FlyBe provide, I actually think its good, I have flown with them many times in the course of my new job.
I feel for the ex BACON engineers that jumped to Bmir when the take over took place and now face the same problems.
I'm not sure if it's the same for you drivers, as an ex BACON engineer I left when Fly(may)Be took over for the simple reason that I would not have recieved a pay rise for 3 years due to being "red ringed". I couldn't live with that and obviously couldn't afford it.
Fly(may)Be destroyed a fantastic base and bunch of Manchester engineers and will probably do the same if the Bmir take over goes through.
As for the service FlyBe provide, I actually think its good, I have flown with them many times in the course of my new job.
I feel for the ex BACON engineers that jumped to Bmir when the take over took place and now face the same problems.
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Flybe have operated 737s previously. They damp leased 3 in from Astreus a few years back to do the med work.
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No worries
embraerFObmi.
Rumour from the EXT jungle drums is that you will not need to worry about Fly(may)be or the crash 8.
Flybe are interested in some of the routes but have no interest in either of the airframes or the drivers.
Should save you any trauma - unless you need the job
Ballyctid
They have now got an excellent engineering base at MAN with some of your ex colleagues returning from the greener grass - for some reason.
Rumour from the EXT jungle drums is that you will not need to worry about Fly(may)be or the crash 8.
Flybe are interested in some of the routes but have no interest in either of the airframes or the drivers.
Should save you any trauma - unless you need the job
Ballyctid
They have now got an excellent engineering base at MAN with some of your ex colleagues returning from the greener grass - for some reason.
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flyhigh2fly,firstly I would like to think our management would tell us before the press, there are too many of us concerned for our futures. Secondly, surely nothing, if anything can happen before January when LH take control so I cannot see how due dil can already be underway.
As for flybe, I agree that they have some very canny leaders. I have seen their top man on tv and he seems a sharp cookie. Also 2 of their directors are I believe ex-bmi, from Derby and unusually for directors are said to be well respected and are very good at what they do. It might not be the worse thing for us if they do actually take us over.
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As for flybe, I agree that they have some very canny leaders. I have seen their top man on tv and he seems a sharp cookie. Also 2 of their directors are I believe ex-bmi, from Derby and unusually for directors are said to be well respected and are very good at what they do. It might not be the worse thing for us if they do actually take us over.
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G-EMBX
Deep & fast
G-EMBX is Manchester based at present per acarsd
Today it has done MAN-BRU-MAN-DUS-MAN.
Seems to have been at Manchester for a while.
Noticed bhx's next two based Q400's have crept forward.
The next one is 19/12/08 (was Jan 2009) and 20/2/08 (was March 09)
although this is info is from the flybe timetable, which I have not checked
for a couple of months.
Summer schedules to be released this week?
Pete
G-EMBX is Manchester based at present per acarsd
Today it has done MAN-BRU-MAN-DUS-MAN.
Seems to have been at Manchester for a while.
Noticed bhx's next two based Q400's have crept forward.
The next one is 19/12/08 (was Jan 2009) and 20/2/08 (was March 09)
although this is info is from the flybe timetable, which I have not checked
for a couple of months.
Summer schedules to be released this week?
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No smoke without
BMI British Midland has warned its staff that it will suffer the largest loss in its history this year.
Chief executive Nigel Turner told staff the group had to restructure as it seeks “to ride out what is probably the worst crisis the aviation industry has faced”.
He warned that the airline, which is shortly to be taken over by Lufthansa, expected to remain in loss in 2009 despite “further aggressive action on costs”. BMI would be "in intensive care for some considerable time", he said.
Turner told staff: “The combination of falling consumer demand and increases to costs in areas wholly outside of our control, like airport charges, makes our task extremely difficult.”
He also warned staff they should expect little relief from the Lufthansa takeover, which is expected to be completed in mid-January.
“Be under no illusions, they will not be prepared to sit back and watch us lose money,” he said. “They will, and do, expect us to reshape the business to remove unprofitable flying to the greatest extent possible.”
BMI would freeze pay in 2010, he said, and the directors would have no pay increase in 2009
BMI British Midland has warned its staff that it will suffer the largest loss in its history this year.
Chief executive Nigel Turner told staff the group had to restructure as it seeks “to ride out what is probably the worst crisis the aviation industry has faced”.
He warned that the airline, which is shortly to be taken over by Lufthansa, expected to remain in loss in 2009 despite “further aggressive action on costs”. BMI would be "in intensive care for some considerable time", he said.
Turner told staff: “The combination of falling consumer demand and increases to costs in areas wholly outside of our control, like airport charges, makes our task extremely difficult.”
He also warned staff they should expect little relief from the Lufthansa takeover, which is expected to be completed in mid-January.
“Be under no illusions, they will not be prepared to sit back and watch us lose money,” he said. “They will, and do, expect us to reshape the business to remove unprofitable flying to the greatest extent possible.”
BMI would freeze pay in 2010, he said, and the directors would have no pay increase in 2009
In management-speak, I believe that is known as "preparing the ground". I'd call it setting expectations and prior justification that change is needed.
Same in any business.
Same in any business.
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Looks like the Norwich base has gone
Changing the subject, Manston is interesting - perhaps there's life in the garden of England yet!
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Summer 09 flights just released. From my booking confirmation, it seems that baggage allowance has been cut to 15kg
Nope. 20 for Economy, 30 for Economy Plus, no change there. Might be worth dropping an email to [email protected] if your confirmation is wrong.
Nope. 20 for Economy, 30 for Economy Plus, no change there. Might be worth dropping an email to [email protected] if your confirmation is wrong.
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I've just made lots of reservations for next summer now they have released the schedules.
Also, well done flybe for sorting out a problem with one of my bookings
Also, well done flybe for sorting out a problem with one of my bookings
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