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175
If the 175 isn't going to Inverness then they need to sort out GDS, as it shows the 175 starts Sunday 4th September 2011 INV-LGW.
The flybe booking engine shows Q400!
This is the first time I have seen the 175 in GDS, so I suspect it is a fairly
recent addition having last checked a week or so ago.
You would think MAN-FRA, BHX-FRA, BHX-STR would be the priority, especially with the first two competing against re-fitted jets albeit re-directed BMI aircraft.
BHX-MXP in winter as well is still loaded as a Q400 and that makes FRA seem
like a quick spin.
Then of course flybe have two Q400 flights on MAN-CDG although little competition to worry about on that route.
Pete
The flybe booking engine shows Q400!
This is the first time I have seen the 175 in GDS, so I suspect it is a fairly
recent addition having last checked a week or so ago.
You would think MAN-FRA, BHX-FRA, BHX-STR would be the priority, especially with the first two competing against re-fitted jets albeit re-directed BMI aircraft.
BHX-MXP in winter as well is still loaded as a Q400 and that makes FRA seem
like a quick spin.
Then of course flybe have two Q400 flights on MAN-CDG although little competition to worry about on that route.
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Fair enough last thing I was told at EXT very recently is that the first 175 will go to INV but not till Sept it will enter service on time at the start of July somewhere else....
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21st July 2010
Flybe to launch its new jet aircraft on popular Guernsey route in spring 2011
Islanders will be first to benefit next year as Europe’s largest regional airline flies new E-175 jet on upgraded London Gatwick lifeline service
Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline and the UK’s Number One Domestic carrier, has brought forward the delivery of the first of its 35 new 88-seat Embraer-175 jet aircraft to Spring 2011 to ensure Guernsey passengers are the first to enjoy the latest addition to its fleet on what will be an upgraded London Gatwick service.
The decision has been taken to satisfy the long-standing demand for the return of a jet service on this important route on which Flybe will offer up to eight convenient and affordable flights a day from the Island.
Mike Rutter, Flybe’s Chief Commercial Officer says: “We’ve pulled out all the stops with Embraer, our aircraft manufacturers, to bring forward the delivery of the first of our new E-175 jets so that we can base an aircraft in Guernsey. This means our Guernsey passengers can be the very first to benefit from our newly announced multi-billion pound investment with Embraer.
“We have long been aware of the demands for a regular jet service to and from London Gatwick from Guernsey. We pride ourselves on always listening and responding to our passengers’ business and leisure travel needs and this move is an important reflection of our determination in meeting those demands.”
The Embraer 175 jet offers comfortable 2x2 seating and is in line with Flybe’s product commitment of offering its passengers a minimum of 30” legroom. In addition, both the E-jet’s economic and environmental performance is in line with Flybe’s strategy of only operating A and B-rated eco-label aircraft and investment in lower emission new technology aircraft.
Adds Mr Rutter: “This is really exciting news both for Flybe and for Guernsey and we look forward to welcoming our very first Island passengers on board our first new aircraft next Spring. The combined benefit of our new jet equipment along with Flybe’s growing codeshares across Europe will allow passengers in Guernsey to use Flybe to connect to the world.”
Flybe to launch its new jet aircraft on popular Guernsey route in spring 2011
Islanders will be first to benefit next year as Europe’s largest regional airline flies new E-175 jet on upgraded London Gatwick lifeline service
Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline and the UK’s Number One Domestic carrier, has brought forward the delivery of the first of its 35 new 88-seat Embraer-175 jet aircraft to Spring 2011 to ensure Guernsey passengers are the first to enjoy the latest addition to its fleet on what will be an upgraded London Gatwick service.
The decision has been taken to satisfy the long-standing demand for the return of a jet service on this important route on which Flybe will offer up to eight convenient and affordable flights a day from the Island.
Mike Rutter, Flybe’s Chief Commercial Officer says: “We’ve pulled out all the stops with Embraer, our aircraft manufacturers, to bring forward the delivery of the first of our new E-175 jets so that we can base an aircraft in Guernsey. This means our Guernsey passengers can be the very first to benefit from our newly announced multi-billion pound investment with Embraer.
“We have long been aware of the demands for a regular jet service to and from London Gatwick from Guernsey. We pride ourselves on always listening and responding to our passengers’ business and leisure travel needs and this move is an important reflection of our determination in meeting those demands.”
The Embraer 175 jet offers comfortable 2x2 seating and is in line with Flybe’s product commitment of offering its passengers a minimum of 30” legroom. In addition, both the E-jet’s economic and environmental performance is in line with Flybe’s strategy of only operating A and B-rated eco-label aircraft and investment in lower emission new technology aircraft.
Adds Mr Rutter: “This is really exciting news both for Flybe and for Guernsey and we look forward to welcoming our very first Island passengers on board our first new aircraft next Spring. The combined benefit of our new jet equipment along with Flybe’s growing codeshares across Europe will allow passengers in Guernsey to use Flybe to connect to the world.”
Reply to email sent in March...
Thank you for contacting Flybe, we are expecting an announcement soon regarding this route and the new Embraer 175, but at present we do not have the requested information. All we know at present is this spring, so would imagine the announcement is imminent.
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FlyBe website: Odd problem when changing flights
This might be a useful information for some FlyBe customers: They got me very confused when the option "Change flight" wasn't there (I mean no clickable link) in my FlyBe flights list in my account. But then I tried "Retrieve Flight", entered name and confirmation number, I _did_ get the change flight options, and clicking it, an error message basically telling me to remove the FlyBe cookie from the browser ! And then suddenly it worked, also in my account. Their fairly reasonable attitude towards flight changes (esp for somewhat more expensive flights where you still can recover some of your money ) was always a thing I've liked with FlyBe, so was glad this was just a glitch ! I wonder if their IT people would make this more obvious (esp to regular users).
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Deary me, those engines look like a pair of bloody hair dryers. Must be quieter than the Trashy 8 though 
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175
One GDS has the first 175 as Glasgow based replacing a Q400 on three weekday services to BHX from 4th July.
Then these flights change to the 195 in September and the 175 appears
on Inverness - Gatwick.
Flights are as follows Monday - Friday
BE781 DEP 07.05 GLA ARR 08.20 BHX/ DEP BHX 08.50 ARR GLA 10.05
BE789 DEP 15.15 GLA ARR 16.25 BHX/ DEP BHX 16.55 ARR GLA 18.10
BE793 DEP 18.50 GLA ARR 20.00 BHX/ DEP BHX 20.30 ARR GLA 21.40
I have not checked the weekend schedule or where it goes late morning/
early afternoon.
The flybe site still shows the above as Q400's or at least it did earlier.
Pete
Then these flights change to the 195 in September and the 175 appears
on Inverness - Gatwick.
Flights are as follows Monday - Friday
BE781 DEP 07.05 GLA ARR 08.20 BHX/ DEP BHX 08.50 ARR GLA 10.05
BE789 DEP 15.15 GLA ARR 16.25 BHX/ DEP BHX 16.55 ARR GLA 18.10
BE793 DEP 18.50 GLA ARR 20.00 BHX/ DEP BHX 20.30 ARR GLA 21.40
I have not checked the weekend schedule or where it goes late morning/
early afternoon.
The flybe site still shows the above as Q400's or at least it did earlier.
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BHX-FRA
Since this announcement I have not been able to get into the flybe site.
I have been trying since 17.00 on two different PC's, this seems a long
time for a site to be updated and during peak hours (well possible purchasing hours).
Is there any hint of replacement routes for the aircraft or will they be used for something yet to be announced?
Pete
I have been trying since 17.00 on two different PC's, this seems a long
time for a site to be updated and during peak hours (well possible purchasing hours).
Is there any hint of replacement routes for the aircraft or will they be used for something yet to be announced?
Pete
Assuming JC25 is correct (and I have no reason to believe otherwise), this would seem to mean that Lufthansa (along with its BMI subsidiary) have complete dominance of the BHX-FRA and MAN-FRA routes
I don't have a lot of information on these 2 routes, but I'm very surprised that these 2 routes can't support 2 competing airlines
I don't have a lot of information on these 2 routes, but I'm very surprised that these 2 routes can't support 2 competing airlines
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Perhaps a significant proportion of passengers to FRA via LH were using it as a connection? Did FlyBe codeshare to provide connections? (Excuse me if I didn't look back enough on the thread to say this was so)
It's easy to assume that connections via FRA will be to exotic destinations, but quite often European destinations can be reached via there that have no direct flight from MAN (I once did NAP though apparently it's now easier via MUC) or it's just cheaper/easier (done BCN twice).
It's easy to assume that connections via FRA will be to exotic destinations, but quite often European destinations can be reached via there that have no direct flight from MAN (I once did NAP though apparently it's now easier via MUC) or it's just cheaper/easier (done BCN twice).
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Chopping of FRA
Can confirm FlyBE is removing FRA-BHX from their booking system, last flight 24th July.
Yes, I'd say >75% of passengers using LH's FRA-BHX (operated by BD) are for connections (judging from who's starring at the departure monitors when you land at FRA, and gets nervous when there is a delay). It's very popular for e.g. GVA, TXL or VNO, in addition to all the long-haul at FRA. Yes, LH now has FRA-BHX exclusively.
They had a BA codeshare on some flights, which I think was there esp for the Korean Air jumbo sitting in FRA (via OneWorld). But I didn't get the impression this was used much. So you could call this also a points victory by StarAlliance over OneWorld.
Perhaps a significant proportion of passengers to FRA via LH were using it as a connection?
Did FlyBe codeshare to provide connections?
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Was trying to book a trip to Frankfurt from MAN in September when I ran into this. Sent an email query to Flybe customer relations this morning, and they have just come back to me confirming that MAN/BHX-FRA are indeed stopping 'due to operational needs'. Only alternative for the date I want is £170 return on LH/BMI.
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Korean is a skyTeam member, not one world.
Shame to see flyBE can't make it work to FRA, but I suspect that LH dominates traffic the combination of massive hub connections allow multiple daily flights, which is attractive for the O@D passenger too. LH have quite the operation in MAN, with multiple daily flits to FRA, MUC, DUS, HAM of course LX to ZRH, GVA and BD to BSL and SN to BRU.
Shame to see flyBE can't make it work to FRA, but I suspect that LH dominates traffic the combination of massive hub connections allow multiple daily flights, which is attractive for the O@D passenger too. LH have quite the operation in MAN, with multiple daily flits to FRA, MUC, DUS, HAM of course LX to ZRH, GVA and BD to BSL and SN to BRU.
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brian_dromey, well done in the LH PR department, Miles&More card owner ? All this greatness of LH is also the reason they charge you double the price of BE for a BHX-FRA ticket. Don't even think about booking just a few days in advance, 400 GBP last time I've checked. Lucky we still have AF/KL at BHX, as LH without any competition can get really costly (they did this on Germany-Russia for years). For me, BE BHX-DUS still works, plus some pre-booked trains, just couldn't afford LH. LH has bought-up nearly every small airlines in Europe in their fight for domination, and that's not good. The low-cost travel revolution in reverse gear then ?
On the upside: FRA is too big and complicated for a short-haul and I never liked using it (being German - our view is about the same as the Brits towards LHR).
Curious Pax, for less than 170GBP you can fly BE MAN-DUS and take the fast ICE train (2h or so, 50 GBP). We all hope this will be a E175, not a Q400 anymore.
On the upside: FRA is too big and complicated for a short-haul and I never liked using it (being German - our view is about the same as the Brits towards LHR).
Curious Pax, for less than 170GBP you can fly BE MAN-DUS and take the fast ICE train (2h or so, 50 GBP). We all hope this will be a E175, not a Q400 anymore.
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I was also looking at flights from MAN-CDG, and there you can see the benefit to the consumer of the Air France/Flybe tie up. Before that happened you could get a round trip for £100 or less; now (if you want to travel on one of the first 2 flights of the day) you need £140-£190 to get out, and £70-£100 to get back! I had a look at a range of dates in Sept/Oct and they all told the same story.