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Old 26th Mar 2014, 15:28
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Nuremburg is an awfully long way in an ATR72 from London
I flew on a Eurowings ATR from STN to NUE back in 2001. If recall correctly it was flown on LH flight numbers. Didn't seem to be that arduous. Subsequently I used the excellent Air Berlin service until it was shifted to LGW which was inconvenient for anyone travelling from north of London (or in my case, the Midlands).

However, NUE is primarily a business route, with point to point traffic, but it never seems to work at the frequency that business would like - that is 2 x daily.

I would say it is a prime route for FlyBe - but not from SEN. BHX might make more sense - but I wouldn't put my house on it.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 15:42
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@LN-KGL:
Benelux+Northern Europea appears to have been redefined here...

according to independent.ie "six routes for Flybe from the UK to destinations in the Benelux, France and Germany. Details of the exact routes won't be unveiled until next week."
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 16:33
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When can we expect to hear the major announcement relating to 'purple' as it does not seem as though the Stobart Air franchise fits the description of this. Hopefully Flybe can benefit from this agreement though.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 17:12
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Apparently next week is the big launch to the public, including television commercials. An aircraft currently undergoing painting as we speak. Entire front section of the fuselage will be purple, leading to white tail and new FlyBE branding.

New purple carpets, and purple mood lighting to interior.

Music played again when passengers board, chocolate distributed as passengers disembark. New male and female uniforms.

And a 60 60 guarantee. Should your flight be over an hour late, due to no fault of FlyBE, you will be given £60 worth of credit for your next FlyBE flight to be used within 30 days (possibly 60 days, details of that last bit escape me).
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 17:22
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Very interesting! I assume they have worked some magic on the Q400's otherwise that last new policy could get very expensive!
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 17:40
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Sounds very good, but surely a few of them things add to the airlines cost base, that most airlines look to reduce, not increase ?

However, i think it's due that the aircraft all got some TLC in some way, as some are getting on, and are beginning to look a little tatty. Are there any new bases etc. to be announced in this ? If so, what are likely bases/routes ?
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 18:02
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Just to correct BFS101 the 60:60 only applies when the delay IS the fault of Flybe. Therefore there will be no hand outs in the event of weather or strikes etc

60 mins late, £60 voucher for use within 60 days
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 19:01
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Sorry, Cloud1, of course that is correct.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 19:42
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Plus of course your EU compensation after 3 hours.

Although FlyMayBe will presumably find a way to get out of paying a penny with numerous clauses attached to it.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 19:59
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TCAS - Very unfair and ill-informed comment.

I have had two such claims (one of which was weather related, and the other a crew issue) met without question by FlyBe in the last 6 months. They even gave the choice of a 50% uplift in the compensation if it was taken in travel vouchers.

The total sum received was £900, and they even allowed it to be redeemed for pax who were not on the disrupted flights.

All in all, they couldn't have been fairer.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 20:27
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were will the 2 new SEN based aircraft come from?,SOUTHHAMPTON/EXETER,or another place?
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 20:30
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STN ATR

Annother place EI FCY and FAZ Dublin
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 20:52
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If we consider flybe/Stobart Air know what Northern Europe is, then we may be talking about a very few airports: airports in Denmark (EBJ and AAL are the only with no flights to STN), airports on the south west coast of Norway (SVG and BGO) and one airport on the west coast of Sweden (GOT). All these airports mentioned are less than 600 nautical miles from SEN, which I think a maximum leg length should be for the ATR.
Compass point divisions of Europe are a movable feast. For half a century it was an alleged "east-west" (iron curtain) communist/non-communist divide, and much of central Europe was described as "east" Europe.

Now it's a "north-south" divide, linked to the eurozone problems with the "south" in trouble and the "north" (mostly) outside the eurozone.

The whole thing is subjective and movable and a matter of attitude and perception. Let's not get to hung up about it.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 21:15
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TCAS_Alert - A personal grudge against the airline is it? Flybe (not Maybe - thats a bit old now and outdated) actually adhere far better than its competitors. I would suggest you have never had justified reason to claim EU legislation otherwise you would have had the Eur250 in your back pocket.

Flybe, for as long as I can recall, have always acted in accordance with EU261 legislation and actually have a very good relationship with the CAA - who oversee adherance to the legislation.

One would suggest that on occasions EU261 claims are turned down because, to put it simply, the passenger is not entitled to it. Flybe are not a charity case and will not cough up money without there being any need to.

From what I understand, the 60:60 is a way of telling passengers that their time is precious and that the airline gets that. No flight will intentionally be delayed without good reason, but if it is you will get something in return. With prices dropping I actually foresee this being a very nice deal for those cheapo tickets. Pay £39 for a one way flight and if its an hour late you may get nearly double your price back - as well as get to your destination.

It certainly is a different way to look at customer service and I know of few airlines that have a similar policy. The only comparible mode of transport is the train where you get your ticket price back if the train is 1/2 (?) or an hour late.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 21:39
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And a 60 60 guarantee. Should your flight be over an hour late, due to no fault of FlyBE, you will be given £60 worth of credit for your next FlyBE flight to be used within 30 days
excellent service

tony said,

I have had two such claims (one of which was weather related, and the other a crew issue) met without question by FlyBe in the last 6 months.
Where FlyBe lead, the industry is sure to follow!
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 23:30
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TCAS_Alert

Grow up and get your facts right. Flymaybe? You're not actually that clever, smart or funny, it's actually pathetic. Flybe are actually 3rd in the list of UK operators regarding on time performance, flying nearly 3 x the flights as the two above them. They are also 11th in the whole of Europe.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 00:08
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I believe the moniker of FlyMaybe is indicative of the public's perception of reliability.

OTP doesn't include those flights which are cancelled, even if they did depart on time initially.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 03:30
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Ahhh Spandex, the ol' hater of the hand that used to feed him. With over 500 flights per day are you saying that so many of those are cancelled on a daily basis with tech problems after they have left stand? I think not.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 10:41
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You don't have to be so defensive you two. It's actually pathetic. Although I understand the reason for jumping to the defense of the hand that barely feeds you.

I was pointing out that to counter your FlyMaybe tag using OTP isn't a very good argument.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 10:53
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Using the flymaybe tag is the pathetic one. The amount of flights that are actually cancelled is negligible. If an aircraft goes tech on the first rotation this will have a knock on effect through the whole day's program purely down to the nature of the flying we do. But the funny thing is our OTP is actually 3rd in the whole of the UK, this is against the top two who do not fly a 3rd of the flights. So OTP is actually a good indicator because if there were problems the OTP would be affected wouldn't it.

For the record the hand that feeds me actually feeds me quite comfortably, thank you. I can pay my mortgage, take my family on holiday more than once per year, I have a nice economical car and I can save a very healthy sum. It's called living within my means
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