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Old 15th Nov 2013, 16:14
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Commercially and company sensitive info, so glad you shared
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 16:19
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BBC News - Flybe outlines base closures as part of job cuts plan
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press release and reported in many places

Flybe set to axe 52 jobs at Belfast City Airport - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 16:22
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Considering it's been announced to the markets and is available on the LSE website it's not that sensitive.......... Update on Consultation Process - London Stock Exchange
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 17:02
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Smile Past events causing all this!

All of this is completely been caused by shockingly bad management over the past couple of years! Lower level managers not actually managing an being able to report higher and the higher managers not even wanting to know . If anything good will come out of this new shake up it will be a well run and healthy new sytem from top to bottom!!! Getting rid of bad eggs!
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 17:44
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Bluffoldseadog - none of this is company or commercially sensitive. It has been publicly announced.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 18:48
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Correct me if I'm wrong. If it's the eJets causing the issue, then why is a non e-jet base closing? Sad times and sorry to see the NCL base go. Used BE a few times and they were always great.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 19:26
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Q400's

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The Q400's might be sent to a core base to replace an e-jet and even still operate to the ex-base just the other way round as I have mentioned below. Although I assume it will be weeks or months before the full picture is known.

Liverpool - IOM will be a non-base to a non-base - how will that work if at all? I suppose flybe haven't said they won't overnight crew on the Rock?

I assume INV - MAN will just change to MAN - INV and the same with MAN - IOM? BHX - IOM reverted to the BHX base a while ago so I assume no problem in MAN-IOM doing the same. Possibly hence the low number of job losses at Manchester with a couple more aircraft based than at present?

DJ on the Inverness thread has already queried what will become another non-base to non-base flight - INV-AMS but I suppose that could be done by a BHX crew BHX-INV-AMS-INV-BHX if needs must and this could happen a lot more.

A lot of unanswered questions which I am sure the crews deserve an answer to before the rest of us.

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Old 15th Nov 2013, 19:45
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A shame about Flybe and Aberdeen.

Given the continuing buoyancy of the area, which is forecast to continue, I thought Flybe might have given consideration to developing the ABZ base, not shutting it.

Not to be - I guess we're in the margins up here.

Thoughts to all that lose their jobs.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 19:56
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Is there collaboration with Bmi Regional or even a Bmi Regional franchise arrangement with BE coming? Bmi Regional consolidate its position at ABZ and BE scale it back, that coupled with Loganair arrangement would make sense....?

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Old 15th Nov 2013, 20:18
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Aberdeen

Remember that all the current flights from Aberdeen operate into or out of another Flybe base so there's no reason to suspect that any routes will go, just may be some reconfiguration.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 21:54
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Exclamation Previous relocation and pay cuts to save jobs!

So just step back a few weeks and good people voted to take a pay drop and keep everyone in a job. So company then move people to other bases, now those bases could have people originally there working hard , out of work cause they did the good and right thing to help others! Unions and company please do the correct thing and dont punish those originals!
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 21:57
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I notice that on the Loganair thread they are recruiting crew - its a shame with the commercial relationship between them and Flybe they cannot come up with something to relieve some of the pain for those crew based at INV and ABZ
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:03
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There is no reason why Loganair couldn't pick up the AMS route if it becomes logistically unsuitable to the BE operation, Saab 2000's etc.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:06
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I think it might just work on a W from another airport assuming the domestic connections remain.

Such as BHD-INV-AMS-INV-BHD or BHX-INV-AMS-INV-BHX

Routes to MAN will probably be much easier to sustain on a direct link using MAN based aircraft and crew.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:21
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INV AMS

Prepared to be shot down here but could BE not just overnight crew at INV from existing bases like they have done at NQY for the last few years? That way they still have an early flight out of INV and last in also maintaining the AMS.

An option??
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:26
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Most of the bases being closed have a lot of flights to other Flybe bases which could be continued. The main exceptions is Jersey. The following routes would have to W patterns (taken from Flybe route map, it might not be up-to-date):

Jersey - Geneva, LGW, Luton, Bristol, Cardiff, Norwich, Humberside, Doncaster, Durham, NCL, IOM, ABZ, INV

IOM - Liverpool, Luton, LGW, Bristol, Jersey, Geneva

NCL - Newquay, LGW, Jersey, Limoges, CDG

INV - LGW, AMS, Jersey, Geneva

ABZ - CDG, Jersey

Guernsey - LGW, Norwich

It's already been announced that the LGW routes will go and I expect a significant proportion of the others might as well. A hammer blow for all involved
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:31
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ManUtd - are the routes from Aberdeen and Newcastle operated by Air France as a codeshare with Flybe or by Flybe ?
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:39
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Yeah my bad, they are codeshares operated by Air France.
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Old 16th Nov 2013, 07:59
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Posh747, very well said sir, Balpa have to now rise to the challenge of the hatchet man Saad Hammed. Bully boys need to be stood up to, but I fear Balpa are ineffective not helped by the fact the CC is populated by yes men, and New Road is weak, very weak. This needs immediate action, or industrial action.

As for the spotters on here, show some empathy, stop wittering on about night stopping aircraft or which aircraft flies to CDG, morons
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