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Spandex we all know you've got it in for Flybe. Just because you used to work there and you have no affiliation with the company any more that doesn't mean his posts aren't damaging and worrying to alot of people who rely on Flybe to keep a roof over their heads and feed their kids. But like I said, why should you care?
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Here is my 2 pence worth. I fly for this airline and have been to hell and back over the last year. We now have a new management team who have got rid of the dead wood. Early signs are encouraging! My family and I wait with baited breath for the 11th Nov to see what the future holds.
In the mean time it would be appreciated (and I'm sure from the rest of my colleagues as well) if we didn't have the pleasure of reading messages of doom from people it will NOT effect. I understand it is a rumour forum, but lets step back from making damaging "statements"!
In the mean time it would be appreciated (and I'm sure from the rest of my colleagues as well) if we didn't have the pleasure of reading messages of doom from people it will NOT effect. I understand it is a rumour forum, but lets step back from making damaging "statements"!
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Half the companies employees, if not more, are shareholders.
What fascinates me is for something so damaging, it has been discussed for the last 8 posts?
Anyone with an actual understanding of Flybe's current position post restructure is highly unlikely to be using Pprune to discuss it. Therefore one would hope that people will recognise the lack of credibility behind any suggestion that the company will 'go belly up'. Lets look forward to the next announcement
Shall we move on??
As an optimistic and interested follower of Flybe what other routes could be achieved if the proposed night flights take place? I would expect new routes to be announced for day time operations with the current Spanish routes moving to night time - maybe supported by a couple of extra new night routes.
For the E195 where could this aircraft realistically fly to from SOU with a full pay load?
What fascinates me is for something so damaging, it has been discussed for the last 8 posts?
Anyone with an actual understanding of Flybe's current position post restructure is highly unlikely to be using Pprune to discuss it. Therefore one would hope that people will recognise the lack of credibility behind any suggestion that the company will 'go belly up'. Lets look forward to the next announcement
Shall we move on??
As an optimistic and interested follower of Flybe what other routes could be achieved if the proposed night flights take place? I would expect new routes to be announced for day time operations with the current Spanish routes moving to night time - maybe supported by a couple of extra new night routes.
For the E195 where could this aircraft realistically fly to from SOU with a full pay load?
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Therefore one would hope that people will recognise the lack of credibility behind any suggestion that the company will 'go belly up'.
Damaging indeed.
Wingo,
My point is that this is, by its very name, a "Rumour Network" !
By its nature it will carry RUMOURS. How can you stop this happening, when people are drawn here to publicise RUMOURS ?
It might not be what any "Responsible Person" would do, or what they want to hear; but people are asked to contribute RUMOURS to this site, because it is a "Rumour Network."
If you don't want rumours don't title it "The Professional Pilots' Rumour Network".
Just another of life's great disappointments, I suppose.
My point is that this is, by its very name, a "Rumour Network" !
By its nature it will carry RUMOURS. How can you stop this happening, when people are drawn here to publicise RUMOURS ?
It might not be what any "Responsible Person" would do, or what they want to hear; but people are asked to contribute RUMOURS to this site, because it is a "Rumour Network."
If you don't want rumours don't title it "The Professional Pilots' Rumour Network".
Just another of life's great disappointments, I suppose.
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Although this article is about JetBlue, some interesting info in relation to the E190.
JetBlue's New Fleet Plan Is a Game-Changer (JBLU)
JetBlue's New Fleet Plan Is a Game-Changer (JBLU)
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That was an interesting read, and somewhat logical. I think Flybe are aware of the same issue with their Embraer especially when compared to Dash fleet. And like Jetblue, they ordered the regional jets when the price of fuel was not the hot potato that it is today.
All this said, it to my mind seems logical that airlines may also need a smaller type, perhaps for route development, or for being able to compete with regional markets. E.g FR's 738 does not stack up on some routes and a smaller more cost effective type could be more appropriate, routes like LDY PIK and some DUB - UK routes when regional airlines like EIR are offering frequency and targetting a business customer. Though the key consideration for LOCOs will be keeping costs down overall by having just one type. I'm sure they have all done the maths on the scenarios...
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That was an interesting read, and somewhat logical. I think Flybe are aware of the same issue with their Embraer especially when compared to Dash fleet. And like Jetblue, they ordered the regional jets when the price of fuel was not the hot potato that it is today.
All this said, it to my mind seems logical that airlines may also need a smaller type, perhaps for route development, or for being able to compete with regional markets. E.g FR's 738 does not stack up on some routes and a smaller more cost effective type could be more appropriate, routes like LDY PIK and some DUB - UK routes when regional airlines like EIR are offering frequency and targetting a business customer. Though the key consideration for LOCOs will be keeping costs down overall by having just one type. I'm sure they have all done the maths on the scenarios...
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Comment over on the BHX thread that one of the MUC flights will have a 1725 departure from MUC which sensibly targets a big gap in the LH schedule. If BE also launch an early departure from BHX they will have a pretty business friendly schedule, similar trip costs to LH maybe (both using Ejets), and without the nightstop costs of LH.
Some are obviously sceptical but if there is not too much loyalty to LH then provided the total passenger numbers are there, then maybe there is the chance that both carriers can coexist, like DUS. The big difference could be LH's connecting traffic, which is presumably a lot more at MUC than DUS.
Then again DUS will surely evolve as it transfers to Germanwings next year. I read somewhere that they also want to standardise on A32x, which if true obviously leads to change on the routes operated by Eurowings CRJs
Some are obviously sceptical but if there is not too much loyalty to LH then provided the total passenger numbers are there, then maybe there is the chance that both carriers can coexist, like DUS. The big difference could be LH's connecting traffic, which is presumably a lot more at MUC than DUS.
Then again DUS will surely evolve as it transfers to Germanwings next year. I read somewhere that they also want to standardise on A32x, which if true obviously leads to change on the routes operated by Eurowings CRJs
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With no london airport being serve by flybe could we see one in the next few years or not much chance of this. I know flybe fly in to luton a couple of times a week in the summer but apart from that nothing when gatwick goes
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another considerable proportion of pax on MUC-BHX are BMW staff, shuttling between their HQ and the English production facilities (and tied into LH by company contract).
Monarch failed because they used too big aircraft, with a purely leisure oriented schedule - and very quickly suffered from irratic timetable changes. I think BE on that route with 2 daily might well work.
Monarch failed because they used too big aircraft, with a purely leisure oriented schedule - and very quickly suffered from irratic timetable changes. I think BE on that route with 2 daily might well work.
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LTN-GCI
Flybe have made a licence application for LTN-GCI any more information on this? Is this a form of replacement for LGW, could we see NQY-LTN appear and improved services and frequencies on IOM and JER-LTN?
In their application, FlyBe cite the new application as a part-replacement for 'lost' Gatwick capacity. Other GCI routes will be rescheduled to free up a Dash8 for a once-daily operation.