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Old 20th Apr 2009, 17:59
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Lgw-lba

So FyBe to start LGW-LBA route after BMI cancells LHR-LBA.

God call.



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Old 20th Apr 2009, 18:11
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Flybe LGW LBA

Good news for Leeds and Yorkshire. Maybe a springboard for additional routes to Frankfurt and Copenhagen.
Everyone is doing their part to promote needed services into Leeds, new terminal expansion by the owners, the airlines, apart from Bmi continue to provide a range of destinations so now Leeds City Council need to get on with approving the expansion before the Planning Comm and get the rail link sorted, if not direct into the airport then a shuttle bus from Horsforth. It is time Leeds moved on.
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Old 20th Apr 2009, 18:19
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Call me cynical but LBA-LGW has failed before, it doesn't offer the connections that a LHR route does, I am not as enthusiastic or as hopeful as the above.
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Old 20th Apr 2009, 20:06
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Call me cynical but LBA-LGW has failed before
Okay. You're cynical. Flybe seem to be making a habit of taking routes into LGW that others walked away from (ABZ and BA, NCL and Jet2 spring to mind). No reason why they shouldn't do the same with LBA.

it doesn't offer the connections that a LHR route does, I am not as enthusiastic or as hopeful as the above.
It (LGW) also doesn't involve a regular 20 minute hold, 15 minute taxi to stand or 20 minute walk to the tube before finally arriving in Paddington. One or two plus points over LHR even if there aren't the fabled connections LHR (sometimes) offers......

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Old 20th Apr 2009, 20:10
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Call me cynical but LBA-LGW has failed before
Possibly.... but was this when there was a competing LHR service?
With the lack of any LHR service and no alternative from LBA, then maybe the LGW service will survive.

If anyone can make money on this Flybe will. The Q400 is the best capacity aircraft for this route and with the lowest operating costs out there.
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Old 21st Apr 2009, 08:57
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At least one weekend in the year Network Rail have to carry out maintenance work on the heavily used East Coast Main Line which means rail journeys between Leeds and Kings Cross are disrupted. They don't do this work during the week which would inconvenience business travellers (because they pay the highest fares) but it is an alternative for travellers between the two cities. Regular railway maintenance is criticial if accidents are to be avoided. Remember when journey times from Leeds were extended to about four hours due to speed restrictions?

Gatwick is only 30 minutes by train to London Bridge and City Thameslink and 30 minutes to London Victoria. Its also useful for those travelling right down to the south coast. When the redevelopment of Blackfriars starts there will not be a through service from Kings Cross Thameslink to the South Coast.
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Old 21st Apr 2009, 09:50
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When the redevelopment of Blackfriars starts there will not be a through service from Kings Cross Thameslink to the South Coast

Erm..no. Blackfriars mainline station stays open. Through trains continue to run during the week, but there is frequent disruption at weekends. The underground station however is closed until 2011

Thameslink Programme - Find out about the Thameslink Programme

Jusr re-read the FlyBe press release, and looking at the timetable and the comment about 20 jobs created at LGW it would seem that this will be the second aircraft to be based at LGW.
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Old 21st Apr 2009, 10:32
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... Still waiting to hear of LGW to EDI/GLA...

Come on flybe!
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 10:40
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The AirDB website says Flybe new route LBA-DUS. I wonder what Jet2 will make of that.

Edit to add: Prob not much as it goes via Gatwick.
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 11:23
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The AirDB website says Flybe new route LBA-DUS.

I don't find this site very reliable ????
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 16:59
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Are all flybe routes on a codeshare with BA ?

And does ba still have a 15% stake in flybe ?
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 18:54
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Q1 - No - only a very small number of those taken over with BACON, such as LGW-INV.

Q2 - Yes
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 23:40
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Lba-lgw

The first flight from Leeds doesn't arrive in LGW till 1010. Not very good for morning meetings after all the disembarking formalites and the admittedly good train service to London. Good if meetings are in Croydon though.

Other way, good arrival time in Leeds, especially if you live quite south of the river, but generally it just seems so much easier to take the train.

BMI pulled the LHR route for reasons that have been dissected on this site, but I do wonder how many of the passengers on their flights were indeed transfer passengers, which would give them a much greater incentive to fly than go by train. I've no idea, I just wonder. Are Flybe codesharing this route, and if so, what connections do they have in mind?
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Old 23rd Apr 2009, 18:03
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No code-share but plenty of interline partners from LGW, including BA, BD, VS, EK, SQ plus many other non-UK carriers. There is nothing stopping people from using the BE onward connections although granted the majority of these you could probably fly direct from LBA to.

Some passengers choose to travel into LGW and hop over to LHR. If the route can work in places like NCL where they still have another (current) London connection I am sure it will work for LBA.....just a little bit of faith??
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Old 23rd Apr 2009, 19:25
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Lbalgw

Times should be for LBA based aircraft, there is much more demand north to south than the other way, southbound it will still be better for people to get the train to be in time for morning meetings. At least Q4 costs are v low, so may have a chance of working.
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Old 23rd Apr 2009, 20:38
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No code-share but plenty of interline partners from LGW, including BA, BD, VS, EK, SQ plus many other non-UK carriers.
I've noticed a few of these before, particularly on Expedia, on which you can book NQY to JFK on one 'itinerary' via BE and BA.

For example:



Would that be under one ticket, so would they interline bags etc?
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Old 23rd Apr 2009, 23:02
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Last year, I travelled IOM - MCO with tickets bought from Expedia, on BE and VS.

On the return leg VS were late, we missed our connection at LGW and were a bit uncertain how BE would treat matters, but their agents at LGW were excellent and rebooked us onto the next available flight, without any hassle or costs, at all.

I know that is what should happen when you're on one itinerary, but you can never be sure how carriers will react when you're on a 'cheap' ticket.

Bags were booked through in both directions and even found their way onto our rebooked flight without us seeing or touching them.
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Old 24th Apr 2009, 03:21
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what about the luggage allowance? do u get the 2 bags at 23kgs or is it just flybe's 1 bag at 20kg's?
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Old 24th Apr 2009, 04:29
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Flybe connections from EXT over MAN

I flew from ATL to EXT last year via DUB and Flybe allowed same baggage rules as per the connecting carrier, I just had to show my ticket. In the past I have had to book seperate tickets, it now looks as though you can book one ticket from EXT to DXB for example routing over MAN and connecting with EK. Other destinations such as NYC are also available with CO and SYD with BA/QA.

£522.00
- Expedia Special Fare


16:00 Depart Exeter (EXT)
Arrive Dubai (DXB) 07:00 +1 day Thu 18-Jun
Duration: 12hr 0mn Flybe 375
Emirates 20
Connect in Manchester (Manchester Intl.)


07:55 Depart Dubai (DXB)
Arrive Exeter (EXT) 18:30 Tue 30-Jun
Duration: 13hr 35mn Emirates 17
Flybe 376
Connect in Manchester (Manchester Intl.)
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Old 24th Apr 2009, 11:26
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On the trip I did, a free bag was included in the ticket price for the whole journey including the BE legs.

I can't remember whether the limit was 20kg or 23kg, as we tend to travel fairly light and have become accustomed to working within BE's 20kg limit anyway!
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