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Old 30th May 2012, 19:09
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GJECH isn't written off, it's just going to require quite a bit repair to get to EXT, then an even bigger one to get it flying passengers again
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Old 30th May 2012, 19:32
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Originally Posted by AirGuru View Post
Denimair are delivering a Fokker 50 aircraft to Flybe this evening. Presumably to cover the absence of the written off aircraft. Anyone know the tail number of the now deceased aircraft ?
PH-KXX is currently enroute as BEE048P! No FlyBe signage had been applied by this afternoon (when I was near it on the ramp @ Maastricht)

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Old 30th May 2012, 19:40
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So its G-JECO ? Such a shame for Flybe. Well PH-KXX to the rescue then ! Although a F50 isnt exactly BE's usual style. Does anyone know if BE are planning to replace it ? I assume so as their fleet is quite stretched on their schedule anyway.
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Old 30th May 2012, 20:54
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AG - it says three times, in the previous four posts, it is G-JECH. Not sure where you got G-JECO from!

I think you have answered your own question.....It seems that Denim are going to replace it, presumably until it is fixed or another Q400 can be found from somewhere.
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Old 30th May 2012, 21:26
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PH-KXX is to be based @ Edinburgh!
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Old 30th May 2012, 21:29
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G-JECO is long term sick in Exeter at the moment - badly damaged having been bashed by a ground handling vehicle a few days before G-JECH was.

The confusion is understandable with 2 airframes out of action for very similar reasons.
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Old 31st May 2012, 10:21
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-CO is actually much better now and is operating out of BHX today according to the airports movements
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 18:06
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Flybe said the full-year result was disappointing

11 June 2012 | 07:18am
StockMarketWire - European regional airline group Flybe said it delivered a disappointing result for the year to end-March.

Revenue under management increased 14.0% to 678.8m (2010/11: 595.5m). Underlying EBITDAR fell 22.0% to 88.8m (2010/11: 113.8m) with an operating loss of 4.9m (2010/11: loss of 0.9m) and a loss before tax of 6.2m (2010/11: loss of 4.3m).

Flybe said, this performance, while disappointing, reflects a resilient business able to weather the combined impact of a 5% underlying decline in its core UK market during the year along with high fuel prices and other inflationary pressures. The results also reflect significant investment in the Group as part of the implementation of a long term growth strategy, specifically representing the first year losses associated with the Flybe Europe division (3.7m) and the new training academy building in Exeter (1.2m). Without these investments, the loss before tax would have been 1.3m, or approximately 0.2% of turnover.
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 19:18
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Loss

The loss was not as bad as some press reports stated over the weekend, below is the flybe press release.

Flybe | Corporate | Media | News archive

Notice the fleet growth from 69 to 83 and I assume that is nothing to do with the Finnish venture as this is mentioned separately as 28.

14 units is quite an expansion (in this financial year?) and I assume all of these will be 175's?

Any news on the East Mids to Paris and Amsterdam routes going on sale and is there any chance they will look at BHX-AMS?

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Old 11th Jun 2012, 20:43
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this Flight article says:

Four further E-175s are scheduled for delivery this year, and leases on two Q400s expire, it says.
Flybe confident despite rising losses

So net 2 BE increase plus the 12 Finnair EMB's = 14?

Growing the fleet under management to 83 aircraft with an average age at year end of 4.6 years (2010/11: 69 aircraft with an average age of 4.3 years)
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 21:21
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Originally Posted by OltonPete View Post
is there any chance they will look at BHX-AMS?

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Not sure they would want to compete head-to-head with their new codeshare partners KLM...
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 21:44
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BHX - AMS

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How about a similar arrangement to BHX- CDG and code-share on all flights then increase the frequency from the current five daily to eight using a mix of BE & KLM aircraft?

SWBKCB - Possible, 14 would be quite an acceleration although with Baby's demise and opportunities with Brussels Airlines they could do with more now.

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Old 11th Jun 2012, 23:06
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Originally Posted by OltonPete View Post
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How about a similar arrangement to BHX- CDG and code-share on all flights then increase the frequency from the current five daily to eight using a mix of BE & KLM aircraft?
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Fair question, Pete, and I agree that this would make very good sense (except for the poor punter trying to understand what onboard product he/she'll be offered) but KLM has a very restrictive agreement with its codeshare partners (at the behest of the KLM pilots union I believe) which IIRC limits each codeshare partner airline (with exceptions for AF and DL) to max 2 routes. I believe that's why EI couldn't put the KL code on their BFS-AMS route - it was because they already had it on DUB and ORK. I know flyBE is operating INV-AMS and SOU-AMS - don't they have KL codes on those two routes?
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 06:17
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SWBKCB - Possible, 14 would be quite an acceleration although with Baby's demise and opportunities with Brussels Airlines they could do with more now.
The 12 Finnair Embraers are being outsourced to BE but will operate Finnair flts - see link below.

Finnair outsources 12 Embraer 190s to Flybe venture
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 08:58
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SN Brussels Airlines to wetlease 2 Additional DH4's from Flybe

11JUN2012: Additional two Flybe. Dash 8-400s to be operated for Brussels Airlines
Brussels Airlines (SN, Brussels National Zaventem (BRU)) will wet-lease two additional DHC-8-400s from Flybe. (BE, Exeter International (EXT)) from October to replace the wet-lease contract for two ERJ-145s currently wet-leased from bmi regional (II, Aberdeen Dyce (ABZ)). It currently wet-leases a Dash 8-400 from Tyrolean Airways (VO, Innsbruck Kranebitten (INN)) and two from Flybe.

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 11:31
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SN must be getting a really good deal from Flybe if they're going to continue to put up with the DH-8 appalling dispatch reliability.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 11:42
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So net 2 BE increase plus the 12 Finnair EMB's = 14?
Finnair's Embraers are going to flybe Nordic NOT flybe UK.
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 11:49
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SN must be getting a really good deal from Flybe if they're going to continue to put up with the DH-8 appalling dispatch reliability.
Well this probably helps...

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Old 12th Jun 2012, 20:40
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One aviation pundit has predicted that the way forward for flybe is to relocate their main hub or whatever you wish to call it to another airport. Could work, could not. Express your thoughts peeps ?
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 20:57
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Flybe don't really have a main hub, they are the largest carrier (their definition) at 12 airports around the UK, including SOU, BHX, MAN and BHD so I'm not sure what difference 'relocation of their main hub' might mean? ..... I'm intrigued to know what difference such a move might make? Where should 'the hub' be and what would be the positive impact of such a move?
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