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Flybe at LHR
You'd have thought that with a start date of 20 April they might have put some seats on sale by now! LHR is about the only UK airport not on flybe.com as today.
I don't know about "Plane Mad" - Plane bonkers seems more likely!
I don't know about "Plane Mad" - Plane bonkers seems more likely!
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Loads on the RJ's and A319's from LHR for SN are healthy. Highly doubt they'd downgrade any of it to a Q400. If it were the case, it'd show as SN changing ops at LHR, not BE starting ops.
I doubt the ECC will permit a company partially owned by BA to take the slots. If they do, it just makes a mockery of the system.
I doubt the ECC will permit a company partially owned by BA to take the slots. If they do, it just makes a mockery of the system.
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The 20th is of course the date the BA/bmi deal is due to be completed, BA only have a minority stake in Flybe (15%) so they could fly some routes under contract, it is no different from bmi using regional and the Dash has more seats and lower DOC than an ERJ, it will clog up the arrivals/departure flow though.
If regional is to go to IAG then i suspect there will need to be a revision of the DLH/IAG deal,i believe that a good number of the ERJ are owned, unless some are staying with DLH to feed its LHR operations from the regions until any time restriction from the EU deal have lapsed and they can be moved to IAG.
Perhaps we will see the Dash into here (BHD) on behalf of bmi/BA for this Summer, would make a lot of sense.
If regional is to go to IAG then i suspect there will need to be a revision of the DLH/IAG deal,i believe that a good number of the ERJ are owned, unless some are staying with DLH to feed its LHR operations from the regions until any time restriction from the EU deal have lapsed and they can be moved to IAG.
Perhaps we will see the Dash into here (BHD) on behalf of bmi/BA for this Summer, would make a lot of sense.
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it will clog up the arrivals/departure flow though.
If its true I can't see it being a dash either. Couple of spare 195s lying around at the minute with more 175s to come.
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Normal Dash arrival speed is 235kts below FL80 and into LGW the (ICAO) standard is 220kts downwind / 180kts base / 160kts to 4dme on final approach.
Is LHR any different? If not, then I don't think the Dash will cause a problem.
Is LHR any different? If not, then I don't think the Dash will cause a problem.
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Originally Posted by redEd
the Dash's speed is much easier to manage
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I have only done go around twice because of a slow 146/RJ but never whilst following a DashD.... I think at LHR it's silly that KLM had the F50's but the dash will not cause troubles!
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Whats the word on the street about planning for the scenario whereby BA dumps BMI Regional onto 
partner Flybe for "a hassle fee"??
Lets face it. Nobody else except Granite will buy regional and they seem to be ahem struggling with finance......
If BA take control of Regional late April, they will either have to shut it down or offload it. Offloading it would be quicker and looks "nicer" PR wise.
More Junior Jungle Jets to flog on??
partner Flybe for "a hassle fee"??Lets face it. Nobody else except Granite will buy regional and they seem to be ahem struggling with finance......
If BA take control of Regional late April, they will either have to shut it down or offload it. Offloading it would be quicker and looks "nicer" PR wise.
More Junior Jungle Jets to flog on??
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So you think airliners.net is more reliable than the CAA? Interesting. 
CAA lists 49, airliners.net 48 dash 8's.
CAA lists 49, airliners.net 48 dash 8's.
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Now, now PP that was rather rude, bearing in mind that you asked the question, and others just tried to answer as best they could.
The answer is quite simple. The website is not up to date. They had 57 Q400's some months ago, but several newer (owned) aircraft were sold to South Africa. More recently the oldest Q400's have been leaving, one at a time, as their 10 year leases expire. The CAA listing includes G-JEDK which is the next to leave, is no longer active, but is still on the register. Airliners show this one a 'stored' - hence the difference 48 or 49. Simples!!
The answer is quite simple. The website is not up to date. They had 57 Q400's some months ago, but several newer (owned) aircraft were sold to South Africa. More recently the oldest Q400's have been leaving, one at a time, as their 10 year leases expire. The CAA listing includes G-JEDK which is the next to leave, is no longer active, but is still on the register. Airliners show this one a 'stored' - hence the difference 48 or 49. Simples!!
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Flybe Fleet Listings
Planespotters.net is very accurate actually. Particularly in regards to the Dash-8 listings.
Flybe has 48 Q400s operational, with two of these operating for Brussels Airlines. G-ECOH & G-ECOI.
G-JEDK has been painted white and has now been wfu, G-JEDL is next but is still flying in full cs for now.
Planespotters.net only lists aircraft on order that have known Construction Numbers. If the construction number is not known, then the aircraft is not added into the database. Just like many of the other databases on the net. It doesn't mean they're implying the airline only has 6 more on order.
So the correct numbers:
Dash8 Q400 - 48 (-1 2012)
Embraer 175 - 5 (+30 Due, around 4 of those being in 2012)
Embraer 195 - 14
Total | 67 (+ 30 Due)
Flybe has 48 Q400s operational, with two of these operating for Brussels Airlines. G-ECOH & G-ECOI.
G-JEDK has been painted white and has now been wfu, G-JEDL is next but is still flying in full cs for now.
Planespotters.net only lists aircraft on order that have known Construction Numbers. If the construction number is not known, then the aircraft is not added into the database. Just like many of the other databases on the net. It doesn't mean they're implying the airline only has 6 more on order.
So the correct numbers:
Dash8 Q400 - 48 (-1 2012)
Embraer 175 - 5 (+30 Due, around 4 of those being in 2012)
Embraer 195 - 14
Total | 67 (+ 30 Due)