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Old 23rd Dec 2015, 05:00
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Hi pamann and all,

Yea i already was booked on this route for S16 and were issued Tcx tickets then was cancelled as tcx were not opps gla-bjv in S16, then rebooked on the Ls then thomson cancelled our booking again saying Ls wwere not opp on a monday anymore but after i contacted them to ask is a new flight would be found was told yes but still no flights the travel agent said she had a lot of customers asking about the bjv and had sent in trading feedback to thomson

So unsure as to what is happening with the route if anyone has some info it would be greatly appreciated

Ls from gla opp on a thurs but at £780 Rtn in may more than the total hol cost .
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Good evening gents, got a bit of a question regarding Thomson airlines and shorthual seat configs.

Last year my partner and I travelled from BHX to LCA on a Boeing 757, an absolutely lovely flight (and return), but for one thing, I'm 6ft 4ins and I was cramped as hell after nearly 5hrs. I noted with envy the people up front enjoying the extra leg room seats, so on our return in July this year I've opted for 'seats with extra leg room'

However, I've been told by the lovely staff at the Thomson shop that as we're flying from Manchester this year, the flight will more than likely be either a 787, or 767 due to higher demand from that airport. That's great, but looking on seat guru, the 757 has designated 'seats with extra leg room' spaces, however the 767 and 787 seating formats do not show any seats with extra leg room allocation, just economy and premium economy for long haul. There is a 767 seating plan for short haul, but all seats are economy.

My question is this.... are there any designated 'seats with extra leg room' when the 767 or 787 are used for short haul?

I doubt we'll be on a 737 in the height of summer to a popular charter destination, and when we booked the earlier flight was actually being sold as a dreamliner flight, we will actually be on the one half hour later, so I'm inclined to think it will be a 767, but that is purely guessing.

Has anyone ever had any experience of short haul seats with extra leg room on a non 757 flight, to shed some light on the situation? I'm aware I'll know this in a few weeks when the seatplans are available to people who advanced booked their seats, but I'm just curious.

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Originally Posted by Matt5
Good evening gents, got a bit of a question regarding Thomson airlines and shorthual seat configs.

Last year my partner and I travelled from BHX to LCA on a Boeing 757, an absolutely lovely flight (and return), but for one thing, I'm 6ft 4ins and I was cramped as hell after nearly 5hrs. I noted with envy the people up front enjoying the extra leg room seats, so on our return in July this year I've opted for 'seats with extra leg room'

However, I've been told by the lovely staff at the Thomson shop that as we're flying from Manchester this year, the flight will more than likely be either a 787, or 767 due to higher demand from that airport. That's great, but looking on seat guru, the 757 has designated 'seats with extra leg room' spaces, however the 767 and 787 seating formats do not show any seats with extra leg room allocation, just economy and premium economy for long haul. There is a 767 seating plan for short haul, but all seats are economy.

My question is this.... are there any designated 'seats with extra leg room' when the 767 or 787 are used for short haul?

I doubt we'll be on a 737 in the height of summer to a popular charter destination, and when we booked the earlier flight was actually being sold as a dreamliner flight, we will actually be on the one half hour later, so I'm inclined to think it will be a 767, but that is purely guessing.

Has anyone ever had any experience of short haul seats with extra leg room on a non 757 flight, to shed some light on the situation? I'm aware I'll know this in a few weeks when the seatplans are available to people who advanced booked their seats, but I'm just curious.

Many thanks
Seatguru isn't particularly accurate when it comes to Thomson. If the flight is due to be operated by a 787 it would have said so at the time of booking (at least it would if you'd booked direct). Do a dummy booking and then you can see if your flight is scheduled on one. When they reconfigure them in to short haul they sell the premium cabin as extra legroom, as well the economy seats that are already sold as extra legroom. The only 767s they have are configured all economy and I think they only have the exit and bulkhead seats but they're sold as extra space.
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Old 6th Mar 2016, 10:25
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hi matt5.
flew this route last September on the thomson 787 Dreamliner. we pre-booked extra legroom seats and were on the front row, plenty of leg room but you need extra long arms to reach the seat pocket which is on the bulkhead in front of you..
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Thanks for the reply guys.

Regarding the allocation of 787 aircraft, the staff at Thomson shed some light on this. They told me (although I'm sure their management won't thank them for this), that although certain flights are sold on booking as being 787 Dreamliner flights, and indeed will be, that some flights may also be using the 787 depending on demand and aircraft availability. The impression that I get is that they lure people onto the more expensive flights, selling them as dreamliners, but other flights may get a dreamliner if the demand is there for their increased capacity, and they're not booked up on a long haul route at the time.

In any event, this isn't about what aircraft I'll be on per se, I'm not too fussed about that as I love the older generation Boeings after many happy holidays having flown on them, it's more my own curiosity as to how they map the seating when they use their long haul aircraft for high capacity short haul routes. All I know at this point is that it won't be a 737, as Thomson do not offer 'Seats with extra legroom' on their 737s, so the fact I was able to book this extra at booking suggests it'll either be 757, 67, or 87.

As a side note about the use of exit seats as seats with extra room, I believe Thomson actually sell these differently as 'Seats with extra SPACE', not 'Seats with extra LEG ROOM', the point here being that children cannot be allocated to exit seats, where as they can to seats with extra leg room that are spaced further for comfort.

I did wonder whether in the case of 767 and 787 on short haul, the premium economy seats are used as the extra leg room seats, but wasn't sure if this would be the case, or whether premium economy is removed completely for more seats.

Many thanks
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 06:21
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767 only offer seats with extra space,

737, 757 & 787(in an all economy layout with no premium cabin) all offer seats with extra legroom & seats with extra space.
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Originally Posted by Matt5
Thanks for the reply guys.

Regarding the allocation of 787 aircraft, the staff at Thomson shed some light on this. They told me (although I'm sure their management won't thank them for this), that although certain flights are sold on booking as being 787 Dreamliner flights, and indeed will be, that some flights may also be using the 787 depending on demand and aircraft availability. The impression that I get is that they lure people onto the more expensive flights, selling them as dreamliners, but other flights may get a dreamliner if the demand is there for their increased capacity, and they're not booked up on a long haul route at the time.

In any event, this isn't about what aircraft I'll be on per se, I'm not too fussed about that as I love the older generation Boeings after many happy holidays having flown on them, it's more my own curiosity as to how they map the seating when they use their long haul aircraft for high capacity short haul routes. All I know at this point is that it won't be a 737, as Thomson do not offer 'Seats with extra legroom' on their 737s, so the fact I was able to book this extra at booking suggests it'll either be 757, 67, or 87.

As a side note about the use of exit seats as seats with extra room, I believe Thomson actually sell these differently as 'Seats with extra SPACE', not 'Seats with extra LEG ROOM', the point here being that children cannot be allocated to exit seats, where as they can to seats with extra leg room that are spaced further for comfort.

I did wonder whether in the case of 767 and 787 on short haul, the premium economy seats are used as the extra leg room seats, but wasn't sure if this would be the case, or whether premium economy is removed completely for more seats.

Many thanks
As my previous post

When they reconfigure them in to short haul they sell the premium cabin as extra legroom, as well the economy seats that are already sold as extra legroom. The only 767s they have are configured all economy and I think they only have the exit and bulkhead seats but they're sold as extra space.
The 737s do have extra legroom seats.

The premium seats are removed when the 787s do shorthaul and are replaced with economy seats in 3-3-3 configuration, and are sold as extra legroom.

Yes, exit and bulkhead seats are sold as extra space on all their aircraft. The website explains the difference between those and extra legroom as part of the booking process.
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 07:24
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Isn't Thomson about to go through a rebrand as TUI, when will the airline change name?
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assuming Belgium and Nordics go ok, in the next 18 months. I would assume that the first B789 delivery this year will have TUI on the side not Thomson though....
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G-FDZG has reportedly been repainted in a special TUI Family Life livery (featuring Thomson the dog and Nordic's Bamse the bear) at NWI, and has flown to BHX this evening. Does anyone have any pictures?
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 21:52
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Here you are: https://www.flickr.com/photos/129797...603774/sizes/l
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Thanks, looks great! Good find so soon after painting.
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Old 12th Mar 2016, 11:25
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Has TOM stagnated a little of late? Seem to stick with same-old with nothing particularly new and no significant expansion (not sure what the seat count for fleet will be comparing 763's vs 787 and 757's vs 738 fleets)
Suppose theve stuck to volatile charter markets which despite low fuel costs will have seen downturns. Although not a perfect model perhaps they should look to long haul TCX model for some development. Will be interesting to see what closer TUI collaboration brings.
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Cabincrewe.

I see your point re stagnation but I can't see how they would be looking to copy a rival. Thats not really credible when you look at the financial results of the two companies. TUI/Thomson have been doing just fine.

Seat capacity wise, more long haul seats now. 300 on the 788 vs 258 on the 763. Short haul configs are the same. Also a new 345 config coming on the new 789 coming before the summer. Recent New long haul to Costa rica, Mexico Pacific Coast, Sri Lanka. Thailand etc. I doubt we'll see any major changes in short haul with recent volatilities in North Africa. Well certainly not till the Max arrives anyway.
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I always wondered if Thomson would ever consider serving France. Corsica would be a fairly obvious bet (has it been served in the past?), but I would have thought destinations such as Biarritz, Toulon and Nice would suit them. With the gradual move back towards more 'typical' short haul holiday destinations it could fit with their business model quite well.
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Isn't Thomson about to go through a rebrand as TUI, when will the airline change name?
Thosmon will have the name change in 2018, though they may get the TUI written on the aircraft pretty shortly. Jetairfly and TUIfly haven't been rebranded yet but some have received the TUI titles
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Wouldn't it be great if they did a few retro liveries too as others have done - how good would it be to see an old Britannia livery on a 737-800? I know it's a long shot but I can dream 😉
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Has TOM stagnated a little of late?
stability is so under-rated
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For retro It would need to be the diagonal tail livery as the classic stripes once appeared on the original batch of 738's.
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Does anyone know how many 767s and short haul 787s will be based at Manchester and Gatwick this summer? When looking on their website at holidays which is the best way to tell whether a 767 is operating the flight? How long is the turn around time?

Thanks in advance
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