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Old 21st Jul 2017, 22:55
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post
30 hour delay+ on a Thomo subcharter (ASL Aeropost) at ABZ... not good.
Despite being inbound on Wednesday night, seems not to have done the trip from Aberdeen to Faro on Thursday morning. But it then did a Dalaman rotation pretty much as planned later on Thursday, followed by a normal Corfu rotation on Friday morning. Only when convenient does it seem to have then been dispatched to Faro.

Reminiscent of Channel Airways Comet operations in the early 1970s.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 01:31
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Oh wow. Here come the summer delay reports... Every airline has them, no airline wants them. It's real life unfortunately. Nothings ever mentioned if the hundred others that depart early or ontime.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 08:24
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There are delays and then delays but 34 hour +delay... come on, that is definitely newsworthy. Early and ontime flights dont ruin and shorten peoples hard earned holidays.
It is always worth highlighting less than favourable subcharters...
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 08:38
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Absolutely. Come on Cazza fly - be fair. This was not just a "real life" delay but an operator choosing to cover the Dalaman and Corfu rotations while withholding information from the Faro pax. They would have been livid if they had known what ops had decided! Thomson would be wise to give up such a very much "less than favourable" subcharter which will tarnish their holiday image considerably.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 08:57
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I am sure the operator would have been working hard to reduce the delay to a minimum. However, with flight delay compensation, delaying three loads of passengers against one probably comes into the equation.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 08:58
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Despite being inbound on Wednesday night, seems not to have done the trip from Aberdeen to Faro on Thursday morning. But it then did a Dalaman rotation pretty much as planned later on Thursday, followed by a normal Corfu rotation on Friday morning. Only when convenient does it seem to have then been dispatched to Faro
Unexpected consequences of the compensation regime i.e. cheaper to have a massive delay on one flight than knock on delays on three?
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 13:22
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Unexpected consequences of the compensation regime i.e. cheaper to have a massive delay on one flight than knock on delays on three?
Operators that take such incompetent pax-unfriendly approaches should just have their AOC stripped. There's several subcharter operators around Europe who could have covered this on the day, they were just too cheap to call them in.

As I understand it, Thomson market this, probably with pictures of Thomson aircraft splashed all over the place. But in fact the Aberdeen series is covered by an ASL aircraft. This I presume is the Irish organisation, but the aircraft in question is French registered. Goodness knows which AOC it is under, which authority is responsible for checking their insurance, or even for doing any ramp checks on an aircraft which does not seem to go to either Ireland or France.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 13:25
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.... although that is not always the case, all these short notice operators are often fully utilised mid July (especially with others using the old faithful subcharter airlines) EuroAtlantic, Titan, HiFly etc
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 14:14
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It's all very well slagging off an airline when they delay a flight - or cancel. The latter being worse in some respect as they then just wash their hands whereas during a delay accommodation and refreshments are "usually" provided (no need for examples of where this isn't we all know not all operators play by the books)

The company I work for tried to sub charter last week to cover a tech aircraft overseas. Couldn't get an airframe from anywhere - they were all unavailable. Could this have been a similar problem for ASL/Thomson? Not the pax fault but may explain the time taken to get those pax to their destination.

Also I understand why they continued with DLM and CFU. Why delay a further 4 rotations and disrupt another 600? pax. FAO pax won't like it but operationally it made sense.

I wonder how many seats were available on routes from EDI, GLA & NCL that could have been utilised to get pax on their way.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 15:28
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Unexpected consequences of the compensation regime i.e. cheaper to have a massive delay on one flight than knock on delays on three?
The downside of the EU261 compensation culture. Any sensible airline would do this to keep the compensation to a minimum.

Passengers don't think about this aspect of EU261, naturally, until it affects them.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 17:22
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Originally Posted by garry8g View Post


Does that include the B767 at TUI Netherlands(PH-OYI) and the B767 at TUI Belgium(OO-JNL) ?

Or is it only the TUI Nordic B767 (SE-RFR) G-OBYK ?


Just the Nordic, the Belgian 767 is due to be replaced by 788 from UK when 2 x -9 arrive next year.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 19:49
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Sunwing 737 C-GNCH operated out of Aberdeen

BY8034/BY8035 Aberdeen -Palma was graced with 737 C-GNCH last night 21st
Was sent up from Norwich
What was the reason if anyone knows
Our Saturday schedule was bit late due to her trip out to Aberdeen
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 20:46
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The return FAO-ABZ was over 20 hours delayed so presumably linked to that
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 06:46
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Sunwings gone tech ??

seems Belfast based 737 C-FWGH has problems as Norwich Based C-GNCH been drafted in to assist
anyone shed some light
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 07:35
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Originally Posted by sparkie320 View Post
seems Belfast based 737 C-FWGH has problems as Norwich Based C-GNCH been drafted in to assist
anyone shed some light
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C-FWGH had a runway overrun on departure a few days ago, may be related to that? Perhaps no crew to operate due to suspensions pending investigation?

Incident: Sunwing B738 at Belfast on Jul 21st 2017, overran runway on takeoff

Surprised this has flown under the radar on many aviation forums. Runway approach lighting pole was found to be bent so this looks to have been pretty close to being messy.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 08:08
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Given the length of the runway at BFS this is a pretty serious incident, which as you state above has slipped under the radar on these forums.

If a B737-800 is struggling to take off within 2800m of runway then some pretty serious miscalculation of takeoff performance has occurred here, so quite right if the flight deck crew (Sunwing) have been temporarily suspended. Don't think i've ever heard of a B738 takeoff run as long as that.

Lucky it was at BFS with a longer runway, if that was at BRS, CWL or others it would have ended in catastrophe.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 08:20
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A Thomson 757 has arrived in NWI to cover the Rhodes Schedule for today.
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 08:20
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Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but I read that the FO has finally withdrawn the advisory against travel to Tunis and the tourist areas of Tunisia. I wonder how long it will take the tour operators to return?
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 11:36
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I assume that tour operators will certainly be looking at returning as the cost of units in Tunisia will be rock bottom, with hoteliers wanting business ASAP.

However it really depends on the customer appetite on returning to Tunisia. With the inquest only completing earlier this year, the attack will still be fresh in the minds of plenty. Would I want to go? Absolutely not.

I'd expect to see a minimal program initially to test the water with this being grown/dropped based on it's success.
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 12:20
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First, the rest of Europe dropped the ban many months ago, and so TUI will presumably have accommodation booked which could be diverted to the UK.

Secondly, some people have continued to travel from here via, say, Belgium so there is already a market. Personally I would prefer a winter holiday there, but mind you, I wouldn't go anywhere in the Med in summer.
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