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Thanks for your response. The idea of moving the maintenance areas to Northolt would not work. The runway is only 5,500 ft long and as such could not accommodate A330/B777 or larger.
Northolt's primary importance would be to move all smaller aircraft movements from Heathrow in order to create more landing and take-off slots for larger aircraft there.
All B737, A319/320, MD80, Dash 8, ATR etc etc movements could be shifted to Northolt.
A taxyway between the two airports isn't really practical. Much better to move the passengers (themselves) quickly via a dedicated underground link.
But overall I am happy that someone read my post and thought about it. Thank you.
Northolt's primary importance would be to move all smaller aircraft movements from Heathrow in order to create more landing and take-off slots for larger aircraft there.
All B737, A319/320, MD80, Dash 8, ATR etc etc movements could be shifted to Northolt.
A taxyway between the two airports isn't really practical. Much better to move the passengers (themselves) quickly via a dedicated underground link.
But overall I am happy that someone read my post and thought about it. Thank you.
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Yes we should move all those pesky DHC8s and ATR42s to Northolt.
Xeque you make a few good points but your certainty is undermined by your obvious unfamiliarity with the subject matter....
On this point on T5, it shouldn't happen a lot, if you are on a codeshare you go through Flight Connections not the Heathrow Express or the Piccadilly Line.
I appreciate that a lot of you guys outside the capital quite sensibly use AMS / CDG / FRA. As a London resident however, I all too aware that even if LHR lost the entire connectivity to the rest of the UK it still needs a third runwy and a lot of TLC even just serving London ! Cameron will see sense when he takes up the real responsibility of office I hope.
Xeque you make a few good points but your certainty is undermined by your obvious unfamiliarity with the subject matter....
Last time I tried it, getting from T4 to either T1,2 or 3 took something like 30 minutes - bus or underground. How long does it take to get to any other terminal from T5?
I appreciate that a lot of you guys outside the capital quite sensibly use AMS / CDG / FRA. As a London resident however, I all too aware that even if LHR lost the entire connectivity to the rest of the UK it still needs a third runwy and a lot of TLC even just serving London ! Cameron will see sense when he takes up the real responsibility of office I hope.
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What's the betting Boris's feasibility study decides that the idea of relocating is impractical, therefore giving the green light to the third runway. Just another political stunt.
I have taken to using the train rather than going through LHR recently, it's quicker and easier....
For long haul I always use Schipol anyway.
I have taken to using the train rather than going through LHR recently, it's quicker and easier....
For long haul I always use Schipol anyway.
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I say that Boris better be kidding about all of this nonsense, considering the money and efforts we're currently expending to shuffle 52 out of 80 airlines around the CTA and T4 at Heathrow.
We're 10 months into the Central Terminal Area rebuild and there's a long way to go yet, the T2 demolition has been put back a year and HET is yet to even break ground.
The services gantry erected outside of T2 and the QB (Queens Building) has already cost as much as Boris' election campaign. That's going to carry allthe power, fluids and data around the demolition when it starts.
This is all without the cost of the gate reworking as well.
... and then he's gonna move it down the river eh . . . methinks not !!
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We're 10 months into the Central Terminal Area rebuild and there's a long way to go yet, the T2 demolition has been put back a year and HET is yet to even break ground.
The services gantry erected outside of T2 and the QB (Queens Building) has already cost as much as Boris' election campaign. That's going to carry allthe power, fluids and data around the demolition when it starts.
This is all without the cost of the gate reworking as well.
... and then he's gonna move it down the river eh . . . methinks not !!
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2nd runway from Gastwick can operate from 2019, planned opening date of runway 3 at LHR is 2019/2020 - more or less the same
Also not convinced a new runway at LHR would take 12 years to build.
The fact remains it's much more more straightforward to expand LHR from a legality point of view. And also more sensible. LGW is not, at present, quite as congested as LHR, it has a backup runway to move onto when things go pear-shaped, and all signs are that many of its higher yielding airlines would be much happier moving their services up the road to LHR - such as CO recently pulling out of LGW altogether and buying more LHR slots.
For long haul I always use Schipol anyway.
Maybe a better solution would be a taxiway between the 2
Think about the aircraft taxiing time (and associated waste of fuel) that's going to be involved by adding a third runway to the north of the existing ones.
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We're 10 months into the Central Terminal Area rebuild and there's a long way to go yet, the T2 demolition has been put back a year and HET is yet to even break ground.
The services gantry erected outside of T2 and the QB (Queens Building) has already cost as much as Boris' election campaign. That's going to carry allthe power, fluids and data around the demolition when it starts.
The services gantry erected outside of T2 and the QB (Queens Building) has already cost as much as Boris' election campaign. That's going to carry allthe power, fluids and data around the demolition when it starts.
Can anyone advise what the WIP is between the Europier and Pier 3? Is the structure going up part of Heathrow East and so Apron L PWFU?
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Third runway at Heathrow ‘is a done deal’ - even though public consultation goes on
Ministers are pressing ahead with plans for a highly controversial third runway at Heathrow and intend to approve the expansion before Christmas, The Times has learnt. Although the Government is still sifting through tens of thousands of public submissions on the airport’s proposed expansion, it is understood that senior figures have already decided to sanction it.
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Good heavens! It's only taken them about 20 years to do the right thing then. Allow another 10 years for planning enquiries, and we might even double the T5 gestation period.
Meanwhile, traffic will be moving to the vastly better non-BAA airports across the channel. Too little, too late.
Meanwhile, traffic will be moving to the vastly better non-BAA airports across the channel. Too little, too late.
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During a major construction project, it is easy for mistakes to be made. Could we have a volunteer in the engineering company to turn the plans upside down, and bulldoze Stanwell to build the new runway to the South instead?
That way, when they spot the error, we can then go back to the original Northside position, and have 4 runways.
That way, when they spot the error, we can then go back to the original Northside position, and have 4 runways.
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From the article:
No, she's not!
However The Times understands that Ruth Kelly, the Transport Secretary, strongly supports the proposal and is likely to make the announcement in its favour as early as November.
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why waste all that money on a new runway when the airport is gonna be closed and moved anyway?
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Na - He was listening to REM's "You can't Get there fom here" Track at the time. Its the one after "Its the End of the World as we know it." - "and I feel fine "
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A 3rd runway at LHR will not happen in our lifetimes.
Where will the money come from?
BAA/Ferrovial......I think not; The bankrupt Labour government, never...
Save your breath and discuss reality, not fantasies.
Where will the money come from?
BAA/Ferrovial......I think not; The bankrupt Labour government, never...
Save your breath and discuss reality, not fantasies.
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theres a bunch of irish lads doing a driveway just round the corner from me...looks like they have nearly finished and and will be looking for work soon... I am sure they could do a really cheap deal....
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Harry and Paul could build it in an afternoon....
A far better idea is to have four runways at Stansted, sell off LHR for squillions, and have peace and quiet in the skies over London.
A far better idea is to have four runways at Stansted, sell off LHR for squillions, and have peace and quiet in the skies over London.
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Do we have a final closure date for Terninal 2 yet?
Skipness One Echo, we're currently working to a closure of LHR T2 this time next year, but we think that's gonna move again.
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Skipness One Echo, we're currently working to a closure of LHR T2 this time next year, but we think that's gonna move again.
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A 3rd runway at LHR will not happen in our lifetimes.
Where will the money come from?
BAA/Ferrovial......I think not; The bankrupt Labour government, never...
Save your breath and discuss reality, not fantasies.
Where will the money come from?
BAA/Ferrovial......I think not; The bankrupt Labour government, never...
Save your breath and discuss reality, not fantasies.
Do you really think BAA would be campaigning so hard, and the government investing so much time in a public consultation for a 3rd runway at LHR if, as soon as it was given the go-ahead, they turned round and said sorry we can't afford it?