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Old 25th Aug 2008, 12:45
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But you need it to mist so it burns nicely! That's why it's there.
Naturally. However, guess there is a balancing act. Link to Pentagon and NASA links that I looked at before asking the question.
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Old 25th Aug 2008, 15:09
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indeed, sad as it is, our rediculous headline obsessed media only report on the issue-de-jour. Had it not been for the Madrid crash, then I doubt the one in Bishkek would have even made the news.
The majority of the worlds air crashes occur in africa, far east and former soviet union - how many of them make the news?

Will be in Bishkek again myself later in the week . The terrain is unforgiving of any problems. Circa 20,000 ft of terrain only a few miles from the centre line. Fine if you have situational awareness and everything is going to plan, but unforgiving of even a minor lapse (not suggesting that this is the case)
Also 2500 ft airfiled elevation and pretty darned hot at this time of year (high 20's at least, 30's quite common). Again not necessarily an issue, but theres quite a few holes already lined up there if something goes badly wrong.
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Old 25th Aug 2008, 18:11
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(Shouldn't tempt fate I know, but such crashes often seem to come in threes.....)
Then why the hell would you say it? That's like saying "I don't want to get bit by the dog, but I'm going to kick it in the face." Tosser.

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Old 26th Aug 2008, 01:43
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Guatemala crash

A bit of information for you guys on the Guatemala crash from Air safety week Aviation today

Also on Aug. 24, the Safety Board dispatched a team of investigators to Cabanas, Zacapa, Guatemala, to assist in the investigation of a fatal accident in which a Cessna CE-208 Caravan turboprop (Guatemalan reg. unknown) with 14 on board, crashed during a forced landing. The airplane was being operated by Aereo Ruta Maya airlines. The aircraft was transporting U.S. humanitarian workers when it crashed in a field about 60 miles east of Guatemala City. It is reported that the fatal accident occurred about 45 minutes after takeoff, with the pilots reporting engine problems and attempting an emergency landing. Eight aid workers, including five Americans, were killed along with the two pilots. There were reportedly as many as four survivors.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 09:30
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AF 346 flight, any news?
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 09:53
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Airman, see:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...-montreal.html

:-)

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Old 27th Aug 2008, 10:18
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it's just you

have a look at Aviation Safety Network or other sites and you will find that the only things that have increased are traffic and media coverage

23 accidents, 422 fatalities
» 10-year average:
23 accidents, 576 fatalities
the day before the Barajas accident, we were on the way to an extraordinary successful year regarding safety and few numbers of fatalities (200 with ASN's way of keeping track)

but sadly, noone can cheat death and the laws of probability :/

PS: hope it's understood that this quite theoretical approach is in no way disrespecting the victims of last week
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Old 29th Aug 2008, 17:15
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Is it true, what I saw in a magazine, rate of accidents in 2005 1.3 per million of flights, in 2007 0.75, North America 0.09, Africa 4 per million of flights?
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