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@BKSAirTransport: Your last point is rather blinkered in terms of overall market capacity.
Yorks/Humb have a drive time to Manchester in the region of 60-90 minutes. EK offer in the region of 1000 seats a day to the Middle/Far East and Australasia for rock-bottom fares - throw in Etihad and Qatar and you begin to hit 1500. IN addition, the US carriers offer up to 1000 seats a day westbound. It would be pointless for BA to compete with these carriers through LHR. The North East and Scotland have a lack of capacity to the Middle East/USA and therefore BA can attract transfer passengers through LHR on this basis. Hence the frequency you describe and and hence the lack of regional LHR service to the Yorks/Humb area.
In time, I have no doubt that BA will reduce MAN to 4 x flights a day following the same market trends.
Yorks/Humb have a drive time to Manchester in the region of 60-90 minutes. EK offer in the region of 1000 seats a day to the Middle/Far East and Australasia for rock-bottom fares - throw in Etihad and Qatar and you begin to hit 1500. IN addition, the US carriers offer up to 1000 seats a day westbound. It would be pointless for BA to compete with these carriers through LHR. The North East and Scotland have a lack of capacity to the Middle East/USA and therefore BA can attract transfer passengers through LHR on this basis. Hence the frequency you describe and and hence the lack of regional LHR service to the Yorks/Humb area.
In time, I have no doubt that BA will reduce MAN to 4 x flights a day following the same market trends.
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What a load of cr ap. Drive time TO leeds is 60 90 minutes. We are not in jersey now. Leeds is massively behind where it should be - even BA know it. Leeds has always lagged behind MAN - yeah due to where it is located but also due to politics. So many people have got rich. They say russia is corrupt.
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Anyone who understands airline economics will know that longhaul far exceeds shorthaul on a return-on-investment basis for a carrier like BA
It would be pointless for BA to compete with these carriers through LHR.
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Leeds Approach..Agreed, but at least the new owners are trying to improve the situation. Give them time they may surprise us all, it's a shame the councils that profited from the sale of the airport dont invest in some decent links to "their" airport!
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If you compare to Liverpool where I think in 2011 they had around 5.3 million passengers, then I would agree LBA should have the potential to reach that figue. However Liverpool got in to the LoCo market (for want of a better term) early in the game. Whether that is possible in the current climate at LBA I am not sure, in the future you would hope so.
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I think the new owners need to be given credit, with the new BA route, Jet2 adding another 757, Monarch with new routes and potentially a new base, Thomson with 10 routes, 8 off them new, thinks defintley seem on the up!
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When I did some work with MAG a couple of years back, the 'LS' post code was the biggest traffic feed for MAN outside of the North West. Also much more likely to park compared to people who live closer to MAN, so a big revenue earner for the airport which had people a bit twitchy.
Wouldn't surprise me if there was still an easy 1mppa for LBA to get after and with the blokes they've got running LBA these days, I'd back them to succeed.
Wouldn't surprise me if there was still an easy 1mppa for LBA to get after and with the blokes they've got running LBA these days, I'd back them to succeed.
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LBA are doing ok ,And given its location it has a lot of traffic. I'm surprised the amount of diversions over the past couple of years of dodgy weather haven't affected things . It must make some airlines rule it out . Man doesn't seem to ever really have that issue .
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Yes, if anyone from BA route planning is reading, I vote for a LPL-LHR route,
great feed potential for sure!
Well if your voting for LPL i vote for NQY-LHR BA service
on the subject of NQY, before SZ were folded by Eastern the NQY-BRS-LBA operated twice daily (i think). Its a little surprising that nobody has picked up the route. Yes i know that some of that traffic would of been BRS-LBA but some of the punters were flying NQY-LBA
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LEEDS APPROACH - I may live in Jersey, however, I do leave the Island every now and again. Working at a high level in commercial aviation, I assure you my facts are well proven and time will demonstrate this.
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LBA - LHR
I give it 12 months then BA will stop the route the simple fact is that BA are far to expensive for business men like me, I travel to the Far East at least twice a year and as we all know BA are using this as a feeder route to LHR but compare MAN-HKG with either Qatar or Air France and its over £700.00 cheaper than LBA-HKG via LHR (business class) and being a business man who flys to HKG and CAN twice a year I would rather fly with Qatar who are SUPERB and a true 5 star airline rather than BA who are no better than Air France, very poor.
Living in Ilkley I would love to use my local airport but the cost is far to much as I always travel with a member of staff and we normally save between £1500 - £2500 flying from Manchester (bus class combined) which pays our hotel, drinks etc and the stop over timings from MAN-CDG-HKG or CAN and MAN-DOH-HKG or CAN are far shorter than LBA-LHR-HKG, I am sorry to say its not going to work.
Living in Ilkley I would love to use my local airport but the cost is far to much as I always travel with a member of staff and we normally save between £1500 - £2500 flying from Manchester (bus class combined) which pays our hotel, drinks etc and the stop over timings from MAN-CDG-HKG or CAN and MAN-DOH-HKG or CAN are far shorter than LBA-LHR-HKG, I am sorry to say its not going to work.
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BA should be applauded for such a route, their problem is the APD. I bet it's cheaper to fly to AMS or CDG then onward to HKG or wherever in the world.
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For many frequent flyers, the actual cost is not their prority.If you have a decent Oneworld card, you are not going to throw points and miles away with non alliance airlines. When I had a BA gold card, it was BA whenever possible. The same when I became a KLM Plat member.Then always KLM and partners.Flying only a couple of times a year does not really fit into this.
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- Lanzarote – 2 x weekly
- Antalya – 2 x weekly
- Barcelona – 2 x weekly
- Bodrum – 2 x weekly (22 July – 16 Sept only)
- Dalaman – 2 x weekly
- Faro – 3 x weekly
- Rome – 2 x weekly
- Heraklion – 2 x weekly
- Larnaca – 2 x weekly
- Menorca – 2 x weekly
- Majorca – 4 x weekly
- Tenerife – 2 x weekly
- Munich – 3 x weekly
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Monarch Airlines Summer 2013 Aircraft timetable from Leeds Bradford
Monday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:15 - 13:20 - Menorca (Mahon) - ZB7584
14:05 - 19:45 - Barcelona - ZB7554
20:30 - 06:10*(Tues) - Bodrum - ZB7536
Aircraft 2:-
07:30 - 12:20 - Munich - ZB7572
13:05 - 22:55 - Lanzarote - ZB7592
Tuesday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 13:05 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
13:50 - 23:45 - Dalaman - ZB7534
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 14:05 - Faro - ZB7542
14:50 - 00:30*(Wed) - Tenerife (South) - ZB7504
Wednesday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:15 - 13:40 - Rome (Fiumicino) - ZB7562
14:25 - 23:45 - Heraklion - ZB7558
Aircraft 2
07:30 - 12:20 - Munich - ZB7572
13:05 - 00:05*(Thurs) - Larnaca - ZB7508
Thursday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 13:05 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
13:50 - 23:40 - Lanzarote - ZB7592
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 14:05 - Faro - ZB7542
14:50 - 00:45*(Fri) - Antalya - ZB7596
Fridays
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 12:40 - Barcelona - ZB7554
13:25 - 23:15 - Tenerife (South) - ZB7504
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 13:20 - Menorca (Mahon) - ZB7584
14:05 - 18:55 - Munich - ZB7572
20:30 - 06:10*(Sat) - Bodrum - Zb7536
Saturday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:15 - 14:05 - Faro - ZB7542
14:50 - 00:45*(Sun) - Dalaman - ZB7534
Aircraft 2
07:30 - 13:35 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
14:25 - 23:45 - Heraklion - ZB7558
Sunday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 13:05 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
13:50 - 00:50*(Mon) - Larnaca - ZB7508
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 13:40 - Rome (Fiumicino) - ZB7562
14:25 - 00:20*(Mon) - ZB7508
Both Aircraft are showing as Airbus A320's.
Monday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:15 - 13:20 - Menorca (Mahon) - ZB7584
14:05 - 19:45 - Barcelona - ZB7554
20:30 - 06:10*(Tues) - Bodrum - ZB7536
Aircraft 2:-
07:30 - 12:20 - Munich - ZB7572
13:05 - 22:55 - Lanzarote - ZB7592
Tuesday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 13:05 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
13:50 - 23:45 - Dalaman - ZB7534
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 14:05 - Faro - ZB7542
14:50 - 00:30*(Wed) - Tenerife (South) - ZB7504
Wednesday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:15 - 13:40 - Rome (Fiumicino) - ZB7562
14:25 - 23:45 - Heraklion - ZB7558
Aircraft 2
07:30 - 12:20 - Munich - ZB7572
13:05 - 00:05*(Thurs) - Larnaca - ZB7508
Thursday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 13:05 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
13:50 - 23:40 - Lanzarote - ZB7592
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 14:05 - Faro - ZB7542
14:50 - 00:45*(Fri) - Antalya - ZB7596
Fridays
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 12:40 - Barcelona - ZB7554
13:25 - 23:15 - Tenerife (South) - ZB7504
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 13:20 - Menorca (Mahon) - ZB7584
14:05 - 18:55 - Munich - ZB7572
20:30 - 06:10*(Sat) - Bodrum - Zb7536
Saturday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:15 - 14:05 - Faro - ZB7542
14:50 - 00:45*(Sun) - Dalaman - ZB7534
Aircraft 2
07:30 - 13:35 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
14:25 - 23:45 - Heraklion - ZB7558
Sunday's
Aircraft 1:-
07:00 - 13:05 - Palma de Mallorca - ZB7516
13:50 - 00:50*(Mon) - Larnaca - ZB7508
Aircraft 2
07:15 - 13:40 - Rome (Fiumicino) - ZB7562
14:25 - 00:20*(Mon) - ZB7508
Both Aircraft are showing as Airbus A320's.
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