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Old 9th Apr 2009, 10:15
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No Airline pilot in his or her right mind would take an aeroplane in to the sky with a known external fuel leak. Full stop. Frankly, if there was any doubt regarding the integrity of the fuel system at all i doubt the flight would take off. I suspect a severe case of chinese whispers.

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Old 9th Apr 2009, 13:52
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Marketing at it again

I've just read the latest press issue on LBIA telling us about what a cracking weekend LBA should have! They list Cyprus as one of the hotspots.... If only i could fly there from LBA this weekend. Fat chance as the flights to Cyprus don't start for another 3 weeks.
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Old 9th Apr 2009, 18:31
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Cyprus is not the cheapest destination for your money.
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Old 9th Apr 2009, 20:49
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Why not take a flight to Cyprus from HUY. Wednesday's.
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Hi

Dose anyone know if there is any truth in that CAA has recently given LBIA approval for the long awaited CATII to be installed on runway 14?

By all accounts the airport still wants to start the work ASAP. But they will most likely have to wait until the winter 2009/10 period.
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Old 13th Apr 2009, 16:31
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I suppose it all depends on the a/c movements of that day, and how the ILS system is "wired in" as it were. I should think that it will be done rather rapidly, as the quicker they get it in the more customer airlines will come into LBA.

Also the possibility of PIA bringing in a B772 to LBA means the CAT would have to be upgraded. (BTW this is a rumour that has come through the fire station in regards to shift patterns and RFFS CAT9/CAT10 capability)
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Old 13th Apr 2009, 20:30
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I heard an 'Interesting' tale yesterday from a young Asian lad whose relative is a PIA 777 Driver is saving up to take Flying Lessons at Multiflight.

He said that he went into a well known Leeds Aviation/Enthusiasts shop, And was looking at Headsets/Flying books when the owner got suspicous about him.

The shop owner rang the local police or whoever? and the lad obviously felt embarrassed and left the shop.

I know the shop owner, I must admit I don't really rate him as a people person, But I think he probably 'Over reacted' in going as far as ringing the police!

There are some Asian students taking Flying Lessons.

If you know which shop I am talking about, Then you may think the same huh..?!!

9/11 happened 8 years ago - We have moved on since then.
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Old 13th Apr 2009, 21:04
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Can't see PIA even contemplating 772 ops ex LBA the runway performance of the 772ER/LR they operate is horrendous at MTOW. LBA would need to put down an extra 1000m to get one off at MTOW. Whilst I accept they would not be at MTOW to do ISB they would need to be somewhere close to it with full pax loads. PIA do seem to be filling the A310 on a regular basis but surely given LBAs 2250m they would be better sticking to the A310 and increasing the number of flights per week.

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Old 14th Apr 2009, 01:29
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The MTOW of the B737-300 is more horrendous at 3000m
The 777-200LR with the the more powerful engines (used by PIA) has a performance close to the A310-300 according to a Boeing take off distance chart. The LBA-ISB route is probably about 60% of the B777-200LR range so lightly loaded.
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Old 14th Apr 2009, 06:47
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I will point out that although Boeing claim a performance figure for its various A/C, PIA will also produce a SOP based on its regulating authority and the AOC. So without looking at PIA's Flight Manual and reviewing there performance figures for a given temp and Alt, and OCL. whilst the 772 may operate from LBA can it do it legally within the company SOP?
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Old 14th Apr 2009, 07:55
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The figures quoted from Boeing are like for like operating conditions for aircraft from DC3 to A380 all on the same chart.

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Old 14th Apr 2009, 14:03
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Better get you to run and operate all these aircraft then, you seem to know more than the the operation dept and the CAA/FAA/EASA and the rest.
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Old 14th Apr 2009, 17:22
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No need to get on your high horse L-Band, I was only saying where the figures came from, nothing more, nothing less.
Why are so many people agressive on this forum?
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Old 14th Apr 2009, 22:25
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CAA stats 2008

Just been reading in an Aviation mag that LBA ranked 16th out of 58 UK airports in passenger numbers.

2,873,321 in 2008

2,881,539 in 2007

-0.29 change

Airports ranked above LBA:

LCY,ABZ,NCL,BFS,LPL,EMA,BRS,GLA,EDI,BHX,LTN,MAN,STN,LGW,LHR

Anybody any thoughts on how 2009 will pan out?
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...because this forum is full of know it all college students that weren't even around in the days of airlines such as Wardair. They were all but a twinkle in their fathers eye when the likes of us were seeing 747s, 707, DC10 and DC8 roar down the runway at LBA.
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Old 15th Apr 2009, 09:54
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A Few Years Ago

Well said Leodis.....Ahhhhh those good old days!!!
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and a TriStar ended in the mud!!
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OK, I'll bite. I recall the occasional MEA 720 going to Lourdes, but 707's and especially DC10's????
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(and a TriStar ended in the mud!!)

And the pilot landed half way down a wet slippy runway and aquaplaned.
I saw it happen.
The runway was later re-grooved.
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Whilst I accept they would not be at MTOW to do ISB they would need to be somewhere close to it with full pax loads.
Complete rubbish.
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