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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 19:19
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It's more likely that BA are getting much better than they used to be at managing their business. The A320 is a heavier aircraft than the A319, and they will almost certainly have negotiated a deal at LBA where they are paying no fixed landing fee but a per-passenger charge. They will therefore lose less money sending an A319 to Dublin (where they pay weight-based landing charges and it's a longer sector) with 60 pax aboard and an A320 to Leeds with 35 pax aboard where the more expensive A320 operates the shorter sector and doesn't get charged more at LBA for landing fees?
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 22:52
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PIA

Anybody know what's the story tonight?.Airport website showed flight arrived over 3 hours late,just after 7pm.

Then departure board said "next info 23 30".Now showing as cancelled?
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 23:35
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Snow maybe? Runway closed for clearing maybe?
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 06:34
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It`s still there according to webcam and is being towed away at 07.34 to a remote
stand

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Old 24th Feb 2013, 11:45
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The PIA A310 AP-BDZ had a serious hydraulic leak just before the push back last night so its had to overnight to be fixed.

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Old 6th Mar 2013, 17:33
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Not at all surprised to hear that the planned PIA, Boeing 777 won’t be making an appearance at LBA next week. It now looks as though the A310’s will be staying around for the foreseeable future.

Anyone able to confirm this is true or heard anything about it?

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Old 7th Mar 2013, 05:25
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Maybe PIA's abysmal engineering has something to do with. They probably can't spare the only serviceable B777's aircraft on a new routes.
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 06:26
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I hear the start date has been delayed until 1st April
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 06:33
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Hmmm that date says it all

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Old 7th Mar 2013, 15:48
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BMI regional is closing its Leeds base in May and will be suspending its 2x daily Brussels service at the same time with the last flights been the BD1615/1616 on (Bank Holiday) Monday, May 6th

Also told today that PIA's Islamabad route is provisionally down to be upgraded to Boeing 777's from April 3rd pending certain operational obligations which need to be agreed so the A310's will continue for the next 3 weeks.

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Old 7th Mar 2013, 20:53
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Any chance anyone else will have a go on Brussels? Jet2? That route must have been operating for 30 years or more.
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Old 8th Mar 2013, 15:12
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The Brussels route was operated from 1990 to 2001 by Sabena using, variously, the Brasilia, DHC8-3, 146/RJ85 and the occasional 737. It would be good to see their successor, Brussels Airlines back on the route.

I know many of the BMI crews and engineers based at LBA. I would like to wish them all well.
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Old 8th Mar 2013, 19:17
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I would expect Eastern Airways to take over the LBA BRU
Can the route support Eastern's often eye watering fare structure though?
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Old 8th Mar 2013, 21:12
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If they do I hope its with a Cat 2 Jetstream J41 and not the Cat 1 Saab 2000 or it will not last long. A 100ft cloudbase all day at Leeds today led to just about all Easterns flights being cancelled. Leeds operations in the winter need aircraft with Cat 2 capability at least.
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Old 13th Mar 2013, 14:45
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Well I do hope Eastern Airways see an opportunity and snap up the soon to be axed Leeds/Bradford-Brussels route keeping the 2x daily schedule utilising either a BAe Jetstream 41 or Embrear 135. The Saab 2000 might be a bit too large to start off with.
I suppose Ryanair maybe an option if they use a Brussels Charleroi based aircraft, as the 3x Leeds based aircraft are fully utilised this summer. If Ryanair did it I’m sure the route would only operate on a 3x to 4x weekly basis.

Otherwise I fail to see anyone else been interested at the moment...

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Old 14th Mar 2013, 11:12
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I think the high value traffic needs the early morning/ late evening pattern so the Charleroi option is not much good for that. I suppose a combination of decline of Brussels Airport/SN for interchange, and Eurostar for EU Commission and other business trips has made this route much thinner than it used to be. Wasn't it up to 4 RJ85s a day at one point?
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 17:26
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Routes News - Monarch adds new A320 at Leeds Bradford

First A320 with sharklets in the UK i believe.
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Shiny new jets might be good for marketing, but how much do the Sharklets reduce the crosswind component?
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Not totally Unbelievable and surprised to hear the news today that PIA's promised upgrade from Airbus A310 to Boeing 777 aircraft on the 2x weekly Islamabad – Leeds/Bradford route has now in fact been further delayed until at least the start of the winter 2013/14 schedule with a new commencement date of Wednesday, October 30th..
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Not totally Unbelievable and surprised to hear the news today that PIA's promised upgrade from Airbus A310 to Boeing 777 aircraft on the 2x weekly Islamabad – Leeds/Bradford route has now in fact been further delayed until at least the start of the winter 2013/14 schedule with a new commencement date of Wednesday, October 30th..
Mr Khan definitely won't be pleased that's all he's been on about for the past few years!
The entire operation needs looking at I understand they're a big customer for the LBA and spend plenty of money but the unreliable aircraft constantly going tech, awful time keeping and general mismanagement at PIA itself does make you wonder.
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