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Old 12th Jun 2008, 00:15
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I just hope that MK don't go to dust

At the end of the day, Jobs, Aircraft, pride etc are at risk, And the Aviation community must work as a team through all of this.

What does it matter 'sissy' or non sissy there are more pressing items on the agenda at the moment.

2008 is just a 'wake up' call, 2009 - will be a very unhappy year for us all and that's inevitable i'm afraid.

We are losing an Airline/Operator at a rate of every 5 days at the moment.

Good Luck MK & it's people.
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 05:51
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It is with warm fondness and moisture in my eyes that I recall with pride and passion flying with Mike Thornycroft in a CL44 over Africa in the original Afretair / Air TransAfrica. There were no room for sissys then.
As for the Kruger family...... I knew them well.

MK I truely wish you well, you deserve it.

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Old 12th Jun 2008, 09:19
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Unfortunately this is not a good time to invest in any airline, let alone one operating ageing, fuel hungry aircraft. Even operators of modern, effecient twin engined aircraft are feeling the pain or going broke.

B744 freighters will be difficult and expensive to obtain, and may not be that much cheaper to operate at the end of the day in the lease/fuel burn/payload equation.

Sympathies to those involved, I wouldn't like to be trying to find another job in Zimbabwe at the moment or be 50 years old and out of work with an obsolete aircraft on my licence.
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 09:28
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MK were still interviewing and (including sim checking) right up to the end
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 10:20
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Sympathies to those involved, I wouldn't like to be trying to find another job in Zimbabwe at the moment or be 50 years old and out of work with an obsolete aircraft on my licence
Surely most of the crews are JAR licenced ? so they should have no problem with new jobs, also thought most of the "Zim's" had now relocated to SA.
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 10:50
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MK is not for sissies

AirTrans Africa/Affretair of the legendary John "Jack" McVicar Malloch constitutes in a certain way the prehistory of MK Airlines. MK's CEO, Mike Kruger, former Air Force of Rhodesia helicopter and Canberra pilot, is his nephew.
Captain Jack Malloch used his aircraft to circumvent the embargo against Rhodesia, like he did during the Biafra civil war in the late 1960s for sanction busting flights.
Thus, it seems quite clear that, like the original Affretair, MK is not for sissies.
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 10:53
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Even with a JAR licence I would rather have an A320/B737NG on it than an obsolete type which is becoming increasingly expensive to operate. Also not all the crews have the right to work in Europe.

I believe a few die hards are still sticking it out in Zim, life being bearable only due to earning hard currency.

Best of luck to all involved, I know what it's like. Be flexible and go anywhere the work is.
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 17:37
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they should have kept the dc8 fleet going, much cheaper than a 742
sorry for the guys at bristol- some very good engineers there





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Old 12th Jun 2008, 20:41
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Maybe mr Pang can help?

MK and MR Pang are al ready doing business in Parchim.
http://aircargomedia.com/article.asp?art_id=3305
He has a lot of toys to ship to Europe! May be some yen can help?
MK to become Pang Airlines soon?
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 08:50
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The good news is that they will be up and flying once again by the end of the week. With a leaner and fitter core business base there is definitely a few more air miles in them yet.
The two pprune threads on this subject have been coming from two sides. One saying administration is the end, the other saying it was a formality and they'll be back, as per the above quote.

Well, the end of the week is here, all is quiet, which is the more likely outcome?
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 09:55
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Latest info I got from guys in Ostend is that all 3 aircrafts are still parked today friday 13 th of june at 09H50 gmt.

As I understood, other airlines are taking over very fast the cargo and the routes of MK.

From now on, every extra day parked will reduce the chances of a new start-up of MK airlines.

If waiting 2-3 weeks more to restart, by then chances to survive are nil and consequently the story will be over, as by that time they won't have a single customer left ( unless they restart at ridiculous low prices, to regain the market, which no administrator will allow).
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 06:59
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Crossed the dark continent 3 nights ago and didn`t hear a single MK flight, to my total surprise.

Now I know the answer !

Very sad news indeed.

Mark, if u read this-good luck to you. Hope you guys get airborne again .

All the best

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Old 14th Jun 2008, 11:08
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DXB "extra tech stops all costs money"

Air Charter Express flies "Lyneham to Basrah" with 40 yr old DC8's... and has pit stops at EBOS every flight apparently for no reason. They have free access to fuel, or the crew likes Belgian chocolates?
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 13:35
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Africanut

have had the pleasure of doing business with the gents at MK on quite a few occasions,very efficient/professional and totally likeable guys. latest info indicates that there may well be a solution in the offing. should be something official mid next week.... heres hoping....
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 21:19
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Heard the same myself today. It all sounds very promising. The pheonix looks like it WILL rise up from the ashes - but it could well be a bird with a different name!
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 22:13
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Yeah, herd the same from some people today, its not over yet but its a long shot

lets keep our fingers crossed
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 09:50
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Toptrumps, Janeee & Africanut, lets hope Angel’s Playmate gets to meet their MK friends again over the Dark Continent soon! Maybe under a different name/callsign – but, I’m sure the spirit will be the same!

Fingers crossed for all at MK!
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 09:51
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MK must survive.

All of us in MK have been used to the bad mouthing and lies that have been told about our beloved airline for many years. The more positive and upbeat messages are welcomed and I know much appreciated by all the guys.
It is unlikely that anyone will find work with a more efficient , motivated and professional bunch of guys. From the Loadmaster to the skip to the ground engineers in the hangar or on the lines, everyone has the same pride and "esprit de coeur" and all and everyone of us wants MK to resume op's asap.
There will always be the MK bashers who wrongly perceived that we were/are unsafe , I say this to you. UK AOC's don't come free with cereal packets !!! It takes hard work and standards that are of the highest order. So those that doubt really know nothing about what they speak of.
Fuel price has obviously hit us hard, with a classic fleet, as has already been pointed out it is very hard to compete. But the willingness and determination to succeed is enormous.
We hope that our aircraft will soon be in the air again and moving our share of the freight around the world, and im sure we will be welcomed in the hotels and bars we used to frequent with open arms . You see we have so many adored and respected individuals working for us who all make an impression wherever we go.
So consider working for one of the best airlines in the world, i have worked for a few and this one tops the list .

To all my MK friends and colleagues . see you in the Haywagon for a pint of Sussex's finest !!!
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 18:22
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Luxembourg

Saw an MK 747 in Luxembourg tonight outside the Cargolux hangar that I did not notice while passing this morning. Its sitting beside the Focus 747.
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 21:05
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Latest info I got from guys in Ostend is that all 3 aircrafts are still parked today
Today, 19h00 Ostend airport, I saw 3 parked B747's next to each other. 2 had MK livery, 1 had non-descript livery. I'm assuming the latter is also an MK aircraft?
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