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OK so I was looking at the new flights from Belfast to the sun next year.... They would seirously need to look at their prices, they are far from competitive especially early season, and the price off checking in a bag in truley rediculous, £48 quid... you must be joking. It is actually beyond a joke, I have paid less for flights to Portugal return before.... work that one out!!!!!!
You would think they would have realitively low prices, as no other airline has their seats out for sale, and would be a perfect way to catch some off other airlines customers. I know I like to be organised and if they where cheaper I would definitely book.....
You would think they would have realitively low prices, as no other airline has their seats out for sale, and would be a perfect way to catch some off other airlines customers. I know I like to be organised and if they where cheaper I would definitely book.....
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Agreed, and thats why most people from Northern Ireland aint gonna fly with the baby.Too expensive with their bag fees and fees to check the bags in etc.dont think too many are gonna be beating a path to Bhds door.DOH.
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Not having a go at you personally, but yours posts and anti baby rage make you look like a , er well how can i put it? a Muppet.
Remember all baby prices include taxes and charges on the front page, there is no FR "compensation surcharge" no Jet2 "fuel surcharge" plus 22kg luggage allowance, all seats are allocated so no EasyJet scrum, their aircraft are old-ish, but far younger than Jet2 and their latest one TOYL was one of the last classic off the line and is younger than the early NG's
Finally 10's of thousands of NI ers do fly with baby every month and come back time and time again.
As for chopping and changing, guilty, but Ryanair pulled MAN last year and are coming back, Easy culled EMA are slowly doing the same at NCL
If you don't understand the business, then i suggest you ask question to help your understanding, instead of Muppet like rage and claiming to speak for the whole of NI
Remember all baby prices include taxes and charges on the front page, there is no FR "compensation surcharge" no Jet2 "fuel surcharge" plus 22kg luggage allowance, all seats are allocated so no EasyJet scrum, their aircraft are old-ish, but far younger than Jet2 and their latest one TOYL was one of the last classic off the line and is younger than the early NG's
Finally 10's of thousands of NI ers do fly with baby every month and come back time and time again.
As for chopping and changing, guilty, but Ryanair pulled MAN last year and are coming back, Easy culled EMA are slowly doing the same at NCL
If you don't understand the business, then i suggest you ask question to help your understanding, instead of Muppet like rage and claiming to speak for the whole of NI
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BMIBaby has only one long term chance, that is to be sold off. New money, new management, new direction.
Otherwise, its going to be death by a thousand cuts.
Very sorry for staff, as ex-BMI, and when I was there mid nineties it was an outstanding business, very hard nosed, but at least there was a plan and it made some money. Even Baby was good when it first got going.
Otherwise, its going to be death by a thousand cuts.
Very sorry for staff, as ex-BMI, and when I was there mid nineties it was an outstanding business, very hard nosed, but at least there was a plan and it made some money. Even Baby was good when it first got going.
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Prices/Bases comments
The prices comments above - just remember, an airline will charge what they can get away with, balanced by market forces. This is not a charity and if people want to fly and are prepared to pay that price then business is done.
If you think the price is too high, you won't be travelling - end of!
Regarding opening/closing bases. A business has to continuously re-evaluate where it gets its revenue from. Obviously when they open a base they forecast that it is worthwhile financially, when they close it it is not. End of story. An airline is not a love affair, it is a business. It is only by opening/closing bases starting/stopping routes strategically, that this airline has survived this far.
Under Luftie who knows what can happen and who pulls the strings and directs the flow.
If it is a viable business it will survive, if not then it won't.
If you think the price is too high, you won't be travelling - end of!
Regarding opening/closing bases. A business has to continuously re-evaluate where it gets its revenue from. Obviously when they open a base they forecast that it is worthwhile financially, when they close it it is not. End of story. An airline is not a love affair, it is a business. It is only by opening/closing bases starting/stopping routes strategically, that this airline has survived this far.
Under Luftie who knows what can happen and who pulls the strings and directs the flow.
If it is a viable business it will survive, if not then it won't.
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Cardiff problems - re bmibaby
Sorry NutLoose the Olympics are only on for TWO weeks and I do not see that making any difference to Cardiff's problms or am I missing something?
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Two weeks that it actually might be busy though bringing in people that may previously not thought of visiting the area...
As all of the Baby fleet have names, whats this one then?
Blind and Mute Baby?
Undercover baby?
Stealthy baby?
As all of the Baby fleet have names, whats this one then?
Blind and Mute Baby?
Undercover baby?
Stealthy baby?
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Two weeks that it actually might be busy though bringing in people that may previously not thought of visiting the area...
As all of the Baby fleet have names, whats this one then?
Blind and Mute Baby?
Undercover baby?
Stealthy baby?
As all of the Baby fleet have names, whats this one then?
Blind and Mute Baby?
Undercover baby?
Stealthy baby?
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InkJet,why did you not reply to my post on the Bhd thread.Of couse I understand the business ive worked in for the last 16 years.As I have mentioned I worked for the said group for a long time.I do not whatsoever protest that I speak for the whole of NI,I havent lived their for a long time.I am having open and honest debate as I know the comany all too well.I have found your post to be rude and offensive so I have reported it to the mods.
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Baby expansion at BHD
Seems to me baby is doing the same thing that EI did when it arrived at BFS - trying to "steal" market share from established players on a route e.g EI went head to head with Easy on Amsterdam but soon gave up. Baby is now going head to head with Easy to Ams only from BHD rather than BFS. EI got its fingers burnt and soon had to retrench - will baby have to do the same - at its prices I cant see it growing the market?
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Sorry you took the hump
Perhaps if you worked for said group (bmi) for so long you were part of the problem? not the solution going forward, we inherited a right muking fudel and are doing our level best to sort it out. BHD may or may not work, however Summer 2012 booking are already showing promise across all route bar IBZ, but that tends to be a late market.
Perhaps if you worked for said group (bmi) for so long you were part of the problem? not the solution going forward, we inherited a right muking fudel and are doing our level best to sort it out. BHD may or may not work, however Summer 2012 booking are already showing promise across all route bar IBZ, but that tends to be a late market.
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Clareview i agree what you are saying about baby trying to steal passangers just like aer lingus.. however i think aer lingus have now found their niche...(it took them a while) the canaries and seem to be doing very well at it.. So maybe we will see baby pull routes but replace them with new routes that are not served in time to come?
Though a quick check at BABYS prices they certainly will not be stealing many passengers.. I am going to portugal in Aug this year paid 150 with aerlingus... and could have got them cheaper if we had off booked earlier. Baby for next Aug, 16 months away a whopping 200 quid.... I DONT THINK SO!!!!!!!!! And the service and comfort from Aer Lingus is miles ahead of BMI Baby.
They need to look at their fares..... They should really be taking advantage off the fact no other airlines have released their summer flights for next summer and getting people to book with them...
Just to set the record straight I am not a hater of them or BHD and really think it is good they are starting flights to Europe, just not going to pay the redicous prices i.e 50 quid to check in a bag, people are not daft and we know when we are being ripped off!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Though a quick check at BABYS prices they certainly will not be stealing many passengers.. I am going to portugal in Aug this year paid 150 with aerlingus... and could have got them cheaper if we had off booked earlier. Baby for next Aug, 16 months away a whopping 200 quid.... I DONT THINK SO!!!!!!!!! And the service and comfort from Aer Lingus is miles ahead of BMI Baby.
They need to look at their fares..... They should really be taking advantage off the fact no other airlines have released their summer flights for next summer and getting people to book with them...
Just to set the record straight I am not a hater of them or BHD and really think it is good they are starting flights to Europe, just not going to pay the redicous prices i.e 50 quid to check in a bag, people are not daft and we know when we are being ripped off!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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INKJET see your still having a little pop."maybe you where part of the problem",please explain.
No I certantly was not.I was their at the the beginning when we had a focus and everyone was excited about their future.We joined star launched baby and replaced commuter with regional erj145s.Transalantic from MAN which made a profit from freight alone and set up our own training dept at MAN.Then came along James Hogan,again,and the rest is history.
Revisit your posts before you come on here and have the front to namecall anyone a ****in muppet.
No I certantly was not.I was their at the the beginning when we had a focus and everyone was excited about their future.We joined star launched baby and replaced commuter with regional erj145s.Transalantic from MAN which made a profit from freight alone and set up our own training dept at MAN.Then came along James Hogan,again,and the rest is history.
Revisit your posts before you come on here and have the front to namecall anyone a ****in muppet.