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Given the disastrous performance to date on Belfast-Stansted, I think it would take a very brave (or very rich) person to suggest replicating the rest of the domestic routes into Stansted.
I think bmibaby entering the fray at STN to Europe would be pure suicide, given the lack of brand presence in London plus the sheer volume of competition and frequency on most main routes with EZY & Ryanair. Flyglobespan didnt last long on STN routes, so what chance for WW?
As regards BHD STN routes the odds were stacked against WW from the word go, given nobody in London would think of checking WW for a flight to Belfast. In NI a good reputation and a good level of marketing going on.
If I am not mistaken FR had 4 daily STN BFS services a day in each direction each day whereas WW has 3 a day mon-Fri and 1 on Sunday.
So that would be WW 16 return a week compared FR 28, and add the difference in seating capacity WW 132? V FR 159 (avg 149 and 169?).
Nonetheless a soft start on the route. Lets hope for WW sake it picks up.
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Not a good day for baby at BHX
Looks like one of the three aircraft based at BHX is out of service - some cancellations and long delays for others - Additional plane arriving from EMA at 2020 to help recover the situation.
0750 to Murcia left 1447
1235 to Amsterdam left 1430
1415 to Nice still delayed
1430 to Knock left 1747
1615 Belfast / 1805 Amsterdam both cancelled
1920 Alicante delayed
1940 Belfast delayed
0750 to Murcia left 1447
1235 to Amsterdam left 1430
1415 to Nice still delayed
1430 to Knock left 1747
1615 Belfast / 1805 Amsterdam both cancelled
1920 Alicante delayed
1940 Belfast delayed
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Flightrider, I cant see much in the way of developments for any airlines in UK domestic routes ex London, what with recession, improved road and rail etc, and given that bmi have closed GLA and Ryanair axing PIK STN well looks like the yield is not there.
Add to that a double dosage of APD and new routes over land at least are a virtual non-starter. PLH closing too, LCY-LPL & MAN gone, LBA-LHR then LGW gone, MME-LHR gone & not replaced - to name a few!
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Flightontime.info results for the first three months of the year have been uploaded onto their site and it shows Bmibaby were the most punctual low cost airline.
Flight on time
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I did actually read the footnotes, however as the average delay for each of the 3 airlines are different (i.e. each airlines punctuality stats have been taken into account) it can be concluded that of the low cost airlines, Bmibaby had the lowest average delay and consequently, the best on time performance.
Just for clarity:
Average Delay for bmi Regional: 6.2 Minutes
Average Delay for bmibaby: 7.1 minutes - Lowest of the low cost airlines
Average Delay for bmi (Mainline): 10.4 Minutes
Just for clarity:
Average Delay for bmi Regional: 6.2 Minutes
Average Delay for bmibaby: 7.1 minutes - Lowest of the low cost airlines
Average Delay for bmi (Mainline): 10.4 Minutes
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ema-jer
As a tour operater we used bmibaby for the first time on ema-jer, and very well done flights on time very helpful with disabled client, and our report from clients a very nice airline.
We plan a lot more flights for clients on ema-jer in 2011/12
regards
stuart
We plan a lot more flights for clients on ema-jer in 2011/12
regards
stuart
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bmibaby holidays
Newly launched today 'bmibaby holidays'. Flights with bmibaby in association with Co-op Holidays for all other aspects. It's a step in the right direction and could potentially open up further business for them with the planned merger between the Thomas Cook group and Co-op travel group..?
I suppose it's similar to how easyjet deal with lowcostholidays.com but obviously on a different scale!
I suppose it's similar to how easyjet deal with lowcostholidays.com but obviously on a different scale!
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This is the website:
bmibaby Holidays - Flight and Hotel packages in assosiation with Co-op Holidays
bmibaby Holidays - Flight and Hotel packages in assosiation with Co-op Holidays
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''As well as the recent launch of bmibaby Holidays in association with Co-op Holidays, bmibaby has today introduced two new pricing strategies on offer to it's customers. 'FamilyFly' - is aimed towards the family and group booking's customers. Advantages will include standard 22kg hold luggage allowance, together seating and priotrity boarding bundled together to make saving's when compared to booking each service separately. 'FlyPlus' - which has been created to be aimed towards the business traveller and those customers that need the comfort of flexibility. Advantages will include no flight change fees, executive lounge access and the added option of having a laptop size bag along with your standard hand-luggage allowance. bmibaby will however continue to offer the standard fare option to customers giving them the option to choose just the parts of the service they want, when they want it...''
I think these new services along with the recent news of them being the most punctual UK low-cost carrier, improvements in customer service and the rumours of a couple of further new routes being announced from BHX and BHD, should surely mean things are looking up and Lufthansa hopefully being impressed?
I think these new services along with the recent news of them being the most punctual UK low-cost carrier, improvements in customer service and the rumours of a couple of further new routes being announced from BHX and BHD, should surely mean things are looking up and Lufthansa hopefully being impressed?
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The first thing they need to do is sack the person who wrote this press release.
Apart from three misplaced apostrophes, the whole article is syntactically lousy. I wouldn't pay the agency or staff member that wrote this.
That would be a simple saving for Mr Carr....
TA
Apart from three misplaced apostrophes, the whole article is syntactically lousy. I wouldn't pay the agency or staff member that wrote this.
That would be a simple saving for Mr Carr....
TA
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The first thing they need to do is sack the person who wrote this press release.
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Not quite right but i take your point.
The new products have not been launched yet, the document posted above is a cut and paste job from an internal news update. All three products can be bought now on the website (Familyplus, Flyplus and bmibaby holidays) but the status is "under-test", whilst we debug any web issues, this is far from easy and we also have to train staff, not to stop someone with two bits of hand luggage when they have a valid Flyplus ticket, so it wont go public for a couple of weeks yet.
The new products have not been launched yet, the document posted above is a cut and paste job from an internal news update. All three products can be bought now on the website (Familyplus, Flyplus and bmibaby holidays) but the status is "under-test", whilst we debug any web issues, this is far from easy and we also have to train staff, not to stop someone with two bits of hand luggage when they have a valid Flyplus ticket, so it wont go public for a couple of weeks yet.
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How long will bmibaby holidays last with the Thomas Cook and the Co-op merger?
I can't imagine Cooks would be too happy, although they do have some relationship with Cooks taking seats on bmibaby to the likes of Alicante.
I can't imagine Cooks would be too happy, although they do have some relationship with Cooks taking seats on bmibaby to the likes of Alicante.
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One thing to understand as someone in the know with everything Co-Op Group, can tell you each segment and arm of Co-Op Travel has different managers and decision makers.
Co-Op Travel RETAIL has basically been sold off and franchised to Cooks. Cooks own the co-op Travel retail branding franchise and operate the stores on behalf on representation of co-op travel, just like any TC branch but in co-op travel orange. The bmibaby tie-in is to allow the outsourcing of the other arrangements. If bmibaby did their own holidays like Jet2, it'd instantly become a need for more staff, training and infrastructure investment. This is basically bmibaby flights and hotels etc arranged by co-op. Like when you visit the Thomas cook website and book a trip like I do with a different airline but accommodation from the large TC selection. Also means baby don't need to litigate in ATOL, which co-op is already covered by and deals with.
Also, Co-op Travel is the big brand under the main co-operative group. The Co-op Holidys was created by the Midlands Co-operative as their own income umbrella to the core co-op travel.
Co-Op Travel RETAIL has basically been sold off and franchised to Cooks. Cooks own the co-op Travel retail branding franchise and operate the stores on behalf on representation of co-op travel, just like any TC branch but in co-op travel orange. The bmibaby tie-in is to allow the outsourcing of the other arrangements. If bmibaby did their own holidays like Jet2, it'd instantly become a need for more staff, training and infrastructure investment. This is basically bmibaby flights and hotels etc arranged by co-op. Like when you visit the Thomas cook website and book a trip like I do with a different airline but accommodation from the large TC selection. Also means baby don't need to litigate in ATOL, which co-op is already covered by and deals with.
Also, Co-op Travel is the big brand under the main co-operative group. The Co-op Holidys was created by the Midlands Co-operative as their own income umbrella to the core co-op travel.
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Oh dear!
So thats clear then...
I hope things work out for BMIbaby. They were the first LC airline that entered MAN and did a cracking job for many years although in the last couple of years they became very inconsistent in terms of customers knowing whether or on which day your flight was departing, however in my experience the professionalism of their cabin crew cannot be questioned. Also recently it seems a bit bizarre to be spending so much money promoting a base that they are about to pull out of i.e. Manchester. It's incredible but I still get (what would otherwise be customers) asking me why baby are putting on new routes to Montpellier - until I dispel them (regretfully) by outlining baby's intentions to dump MAN. This must be the only airline that promotes a base that it is going to leave - you really wonder what is next on the agenda - oh, new niche routes to Italy and France from Manchester(!) Sorry but this airline does seem to be acase of lions led by donkeys ! Julian C - any comments?
I hope things work out for BMIbaby. They were the first LC airline that entered MAN and did a cracking job for many years although in the last couple of years they became very inconsistent in terms of customers knowing whether or on which day your flight was departing, however in my experience the professionalism of their cabin crew cannot be questioned. Also recently it seems a bit bizarre to be spending so much money promoting a base that they are about to pull out of i.e. Manchester. It's incredible but I still get (what would otherwise be customers) asking me why baby are putting on new routes to Montpellier - until I dispel them (regretfully) by outlining baby's intentions to dump MAN. This must be the only airline that promotes a base that it is going to leave - you really wonder what is next on the agenda - oh, new niche routes to Italy and France from Manchester(!) Sorry but this airline does seem to be acase of lions led by donkeys ! Julian C - any comments?
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Online Check in
Baby website states you can check in online up to 16 days prior to travel.
Can anyone confirm that when you do this it allocates your seat and prints this on boarding card.
Cant seem to find this answer on their website
many thanks
Can anyone confirm that when you do this it allocates your seat and prints this on boarding card.
Cant seem to find this answer on their website
many thanks
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Yep that's the way it works, the system will allocate a seat. You can for a fee select a seat, if there is more than one of you travelling it will not try and split you up, but you might be on a different row if your seat was the last on that row, it will normally start from the back as people who pay for seat allocation normally want to sit near the front, bmibaby use air-bridges at airports that have them so being near the front means you off quicker, but if your travelling with luggage it means you'll get to wait longer for it!
Unless the flight is full the cabin crew will always try and move people who wish to sit together but have been allocated seats apart.
Unless the flight is full the cabin crew will always try and move people who wish to sit together but have been allocated seats apart.
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Confused...
Great trip Noc-Man-Noc last weekend. Super crew, highly professional, on time LF 90 % etc...
Just dont see how they can leave a base like Man with a product this good??
Just dont see how they can leave a base like Man with a product this good??
