Silverjet 2 - The Phoenix?
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Enough is enough !! And I must admit I was one of those twats too,
who said I told you so and as Tightslot was really right, I put a really nasty post on here and to be honest I was really in the wrong. People have lost there jobs.
Please let's move ....
Peace
who said I told you so and as Tightslot was really right, I put a really nasty post on here and to be honest I was really in the wrong. People have lost there jobs.
Please let's move ....
Peace
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Silverjet was unlike anything else...
Noneatall...
I had every faith in Silverjet, and will hold my hand on my heart to this day and say that it was an amazing company, an amazing product, and had the most fantastic people working for her...
The experience I gained, the lessons I learned, and the lifestyle I led are now gone...
In a different thread, you accused me of being brainwashed... I believe the word 'cult' was mentioned... A cult is a social organisation with beliefs and values that are different to the mainstream, and compared to normal social values are perceived as extraordinary... and extreme.
If you speak to a member of Silverjet that truly believed in what we were able to achieve, they would have battled... tooth and nail to ensure her survival, but unfortunately matters were completely out of our control.
My concern is now for my colleagues and the silver family that were the face and image of the airline. Having researched some history into what our entitlements could be, if we receive anything, it will be very little... if anything at all.
Of course, as an individual I have to think of myself too. I know there are so many in the same situation, but losing my home, a great deal of friends, and a way of life I had become accustomed to, I would like to know what support the cabin crew have.
To ask questions and draw from the experience of those who have suffered through similar situations is not disrespecting the Silverjet brand and concept... I merely wish to fight for what is rightfully ours, and to ensure that all the exceptional Silverjet crew can fly with their own wings again... with confidence, and with pride.
I had every faith in Silverjet, and will hold my hand on my heart to this day and say that it was an amazing company, an amazing product, and had the most fantastic people working for her...
The experience I gained, the lessons I learned, and the lifestyle I led are now gone...
In a different thread, you accused me of being brainwashed... I believe the word 'cult' was mentioned... A cult is a social organisation with beliefs and values that are different to the mainstream, and compared to normal social values are perceived as extraordinary... and extreme.
If you speak to a member of Silverjet that truly believed in what we were able to achieve, they would have battled... tooth and nail to ensure her survival, but unfortunately matters were completely out of our control.
My concern is now for my colleagues and the silver family that were the face and image of the airline. Having researched some history into what our entitlements could be, if we receive anything, it will be very little... if anything at all.
Of course, as an individual I have to think of myself too. I know there are so many in the same situation, but losing my home, a great deal of friends, and a way of life I had become accustomed to, I would like to know what support the cabin crew have.
To ask questions and draw from the experience of those who have suffered through similar situations is not disrespecting the Silverjet brand and concept... I merely wish to fight for what is rightfully ours, and to ensure that all the exceptional Silverjet crew can fly with their own wings again... with confidence, and with pride.
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I had to re-book with BA for flights the same days as I would have flown with Silverjet. I did the booking on 30th May when Silverjet went into Administration.
I looked at Virgin Atlantic too, but BA had the edge...just.
It cost me more to fly economy outbound and club world inbound than both ways business class with Silverjet, but I had got a special deal with the latter so couldn't really complain.
My eldest son who lives in Australia has been following our trials and tribulations and briefing us with detail that we might have missed ourselves from his own trawling on the internet.
He advised me yesterday to input the same dates and flights with BA now; the cost for anyone booking yesterday has risen by 38%!!!
Since I am dumbstruck, does anyone have any comments to make?
I looked at Virgin Atlantic too, but BA had the edge...just.
It cost me more to fly economy outbound and club world inbound than both ways business class with Silverjet, but I had got a special deal with the latter so couldn't really complain.
My eldest son who lives in Australia has been following our trials and tribulations and briefing us with detail that we might have missed ourselves from his own trawling on the internet.
He advised me yesterday to input the same dates and flights with BA now; the cost for anyone booking yesterday has risen by 38%!!!
Since I am dumbstruck, does anyone have any comments to make?
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You've made 29 posts, all in some way connected with Silverjet. Even if you are (were) not an investor in the airline, you must at least by now be an expert on the N. Atlantic travel market.
So what are you dumbstruck about? That the going rate for a July seat is 38% higher on 21st June than on 30th May? That's called revenue management, my dear. Sort of supply and demand stuff like at the local fruit market. Both perishable products.
P.S. can anyone comment on whether Silverjet had an effective revenue management system in place? Thanks.
So what are you dumbstruck about? That the going rate for a July seat is 38% higher on 21st June than on 30th May? That's called revenue management, my dear. Sort of supply and demand stuff like at the local fruit market. Both perishable products.
P.S. can anyone comment on whether Silverjet had an effective revenue management system in place? Thanks.
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Ooh...bit caustic there, Dysag...and extremely patronising to boot.
I am no expert on Atlantic travel, nor am I an investor of any company...I am merely a future traveller who has experienced more upheaval than most with their plans due to the demise of my original travel provider.
I don't know if you consider that flights costing me £1,534 on 30th May now cost £3,996 some three weeks later is not cause to be dumbstruck. Or whether you would defend such extortionate practise because their main competitor is now out of the picture...or even if you work for the airline concerned.
It seems that the very worst of capitalism is rearing its ugly head once they have the monopoly.
Non competitive price-fixing between those left to provide the service maybe?
I am no expert on Atlantic travel, nor am I an investor of any company...I am merely a future traveller who has experienced more upheaval than most with their plans due to the demise of my original travel provider.
I don't know if you consider that flights costing me £1,534 on 30th May now cost £3,996 some three weeks later is not cause to be dumbstruck. Or whether you would defend such extortionate practise because their main competitor is now out of the picture...or even if you work for the airline concerned.
It seems that the very worst of capitalism is rearing its ugly head once they have the monopoly.
Non competitive price-fixing between those left to provide the service maybe?
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Annee, you can always pack up and move to China. This is capitalism, simple supply and demand, don't like it I can give you the phone number of the rice paddy planters association.
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I had no idea that this forum was so politically driven by some. And that instead of reasonable debate and comment, those same people descend to making personal remarks.
I ask if this is the acceptable face of capitalism and am told to move to China - how puerile is that? No better than a school playground with the same bullying tactics.
And this from supposed, mature adults?
So tell me...is this price mark-up defensible in your opinion?
I ask if this is the acceptable face of capitalism and am told to move to China - how puerile is that? No better than a school playground with the same bullying tactics.
And this from supposed, mature adults?
So tell me...is this price mark-up defensible in your opinion?
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Absolutely annee, the airline is in business to make a profit not to take you to your destination at a subsidised fare, and if you don't like the price of BA call me for a quote on a 604 or GLEX then you will find out what true capitalism means.
Depends Anneee are you looking at exactly the same flight? If so the flight might be full leaving only the most expensive seats. Also lets not forget we are coming into the summer season now which has traditionally meant that seat prices go up to reflect the greater demand.
As many poster have said this is avtive revenue management. Im sure your beloved silverjet didnt sell all their seats at 999 or whatever it was. Only a small percentage of overall seats would have gone for that price the rest would have gotten progressively more expensive.
You do realise that in the current market of high oil prices that all airlines are jacking up prices to cover increasing costs. Unfortunately silver jet didnt do it as well and has folder. This will be survial of the fittest.
PS fuel furcharges to australia through JAL are now running at 1000 AUD or about 440 pounds. Times are changing!
As many poster have said this is avtive revenue management. Im sure your beloved silverjet didnt sell all their seats at 999 or whatever it was. Only a small percentage of overall seats would have gone for that price the rest would have gotten progressively more expensive.
You do realise that in the current market of high oil prices that all airlines are jacking up prices to cover increasing costs. Unfortunately silver jet didnt do it as well and has folder. This will be survial of the fittest.
PS fuel furcharges to australia through JAL are now running at 1000 AUD or about 440 pounds. Times are changing!
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Yes, it's exactly the same flights. Additionally, when I booked I was able to have my desired seats assigned to me there and then, such was the availability.
It is unfortunate that I can't make a reasonable observation of a mark-up of £2432 on a fare that three weeks ago cost me £1534 - an increase of 258% and not 38% as previously mentioned - without sarcastic comments for other posters.
Now why would an airline nearly treble their price in such a short space of time.
Can someone give me an unbiased and logical reason, apart from my own feeling that it is opportunism at its worst?
I don't want to see any ad hominems, rather reasonable justification please.
It is unfortunate that I can't make a reasonable observation of a mark-up of £2432 on a fare that three weeks ago cost me £1534 - an increase of 258% and not 38% as previously mentioned - without sarcastic comments for other posters.
Now why would an airline nearly treble their price in such a short space of time.
Can someone give me an unbiased and logical reason, apart from my own feeling that it is opportunism at its worst?
I don't want to see any ad hominems, rather reasonable justification please.
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Now why would an airline nearly treble their price in such a short space of time.
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This horse, as well as its reincarnation, has been well kicked and is truely dead.
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