Chaos at Terminal 5
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I can top your 54 with this contribution from Bloomberg;
March 28 (Bloomberg) -- British Airways Plc canceled 78 flights at London Heathrow airport's new Terminal 5, or more than 20 percent of the scheduled total, as the building's chaotic opening spilled into a second day.
Anyone top my 78 flights?
I'm sooo glad our Pilots opted to delay their Industrial action till after Easter. Like they stated on another thread on Prune, best leave BA Management to screw things up all on their own over Easter Holidays.
WHat a bunch of wasters, the timing is great as well with many families on an extended Easter break, Wallies all the way
March 28 (Bloomberg) -- British Airways Plc canceled 78 flights at London Heathrow airport's new Terminal 5, or more than 20 percent of the scheduled total, as the building's chaotic opening spilled into a second day.
Anyone top my 78 flights?
I'm sooo glad our Pilots opted to delay their Industrial action till after Easter. Like they stated on another thread on Prune, best leave BA Management to screw things up all on their own over Easter Holidays.
WHat a bunch of wasters, the timing is great as well with many families on an extended Easter break, Wallies all the way
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There you go - thanks NYhelipilot
Everyone is out harvesting the current intermittent rain for the environmental tax relief rather then running an airport.
As for the Telegraph letter - signaturees should be accountable.
Everyone is out harvesting the current intermittent rain for the environmental tax relief rather then running an airport.
As for the Telegraph letter - signaturees should be accountable.
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City rumours
Little posting on the LSE rumour board for BAY shares' I laughed my man boobs off!
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A new begining
Wed 17:05
T5 opens tommorow......Lets wait and see the outcome....
Me is thinking another management troll surfing the net, there really must be individuals working at BA doing this for a living. I'd love the job though I think I'd be a little more truthful.
Or maybe, just maybe, the post above was intended to be an forewarning. Whatever.....
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A new begining
Wed 17:05
T5 opens tommorow......Lets wait and see the outcome....
Me is thinking another management troll surfing the net, there really must be individuals working at BA doing this for a living. I'd love the job though I think I'd be a little more truthful.
Or maybe, just maybe, the post above was intended to be an forewarning. Whatever.....
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It was a joke
Item from Bloomberg on passenger views
Gabi Zimpfer, traveling with her family to Basel, Switzerland, said she got a recorded message when ringing the British Airways helpline and had to turn to a travel agent in Germany for information. Her 2:05 p.m. flight was canceled and she was booked onto an evening departure.
``At first we thought it was a joke,'' said Zimpfer, a religious instructor.
Don;t you get it? It was a joke, April fools......
Gabi Zimpfer, traveling with her family to Basel, Switzerland, said she got a recorded message when ringing the British Airways helpline and had to turn to a travel agent in Germany for information. Her 2:05 p.m. flight was canceled and she was booked onto an evening departure.
``At first we thought it was a joke,'' said Zimpfer, a religious instructor.
Don;t you get it? It was a joke, April fools......
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So having trawled through this thread and read news reports is it fair to say a summary of the problems looks like this...
1. Inadequate staff parking (BAA problem)
2. Inadequate staff numbers for a showcase opening (BA problem)
3. Indequate security staff to screen workers (BAA problem)
4. Baggage backlog due lack of staff, baggage system fails (BA problem)
5. Technical fault with baggage system (BAA problem)
6. Numerous other shortges and failures in equipment and staff (Both BAA and BA)
That reads as inadequate staff by both BAA and BA to ensure any last minute glitches could be coped with.
Which equals management on both sides looking to run this 'showcase' development at minimum financial outlay on staffing. No wonder things are not improving, if you haven't got the bods on the shop floor you are not going to cope with the workload, outlook similar.
Am I reading this story correctly because both BA and BAA will not give a straight answer.
1. Inadequate staff parking (BAA problem)
2. Inadequate staff numbers for a showcase opening (BA problem)
3. Indequate security staff to screen workers (BAA problem)
4. Baggage backlog due lack of staff, baggage system fails (BA problem)
5. Technical fault with baggage system (BAA problem)
6. Numerous other shortges and failures in equipment and staff (Both BAA and BA)
That reads as inadequate staff by both BAA and BA to ensure any last minute glitches could be coped with.
Which equals management on both sides looking to run this 'showcase' development at minimum financial outlay on staffing. No wonder things are not improving, if you haven't got the bods on the shop floor you are not going to cope with the workload, outlook similar.
Am I reading this story correctly because both BA and BAA will not give a straight answer.
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As a US based pilot I have enjoyed the novelty of flying in and out of LHR over the years. However, I must say the novelty started fell off quite quickly. Everything from the need for every person within a mile of the airplane to wear a reflective vest, to the most recent cluster fornication of security waits at the vehicle checkpoints for crews and the liquids f-up. I will fly to just about any other city in the world before I bid any LHR trips.
It is a shame that such a great place has been ruined with poor administration. Not realizing there are such things as a forest, none the less trees is setting this holding this airport back. Even on a good day it is a mess and the smallest of issues leaves thousands standing on the curbs with cellphones trying to convey the fact that they won't be coming home today.
What are the solution(s) to fix this airport? Can the reflective vest union be unseated? Is it possible to trust a flight crew member with a tube of tooth paste and god forbid a jelly filled donut? Imagine the destruction that donut could cause! Is there anyway to get the vehicle checkpoints to flow more smoothly? It is akin to going to the Department of Motor Vehicles in the states to just get to operations. Long lines, disinterested employees with nothing but their time to take up your time.
Good luck to the great people of the UK, but LHR is a disaster. Can not imagine what the new cluster will look like when the other US carriers turn up there in a few days. I wake up at night hearing, "delays are running Three Zero minutes, I will call you back". I think that might be the best we see in some of the coming months.
Perhaps you guys feel the same way about JFK? Not sure if it is painful for you as LHR has become for the other team.
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It is a shame that such a great place has been ruined with poor administration. Not realizing there are such things as a forest, none the less trees is setting this holding this airport back. Even on a good day it is a mess and the smallest of issues leaves thousands standing on the curbs with cellphones trying to convey the fact that they won't be coming home today.
What are the solution(s) to fix this airport? Can the reflective vest union be unseated? Is it possible to trust a flight crew member with a tube of tooth paste and god forbid a jelly filled donut? Imagine the destruction that donut could cause! Is there anyway to get the vehicle checkpoints to flow more smoothly? It is akin to going to the Department of Motor Vehicles in the states to just get to operations. Long lines, disinterested employees with nothing but their time to take up your time.
Good luck to the great people of the UK, but LHR is a disaster. Can not imagine what the new cluster will look like when the other US carriers turn up there in a few days. I wake up at night hearing, "delays are running Three Zero minutes, I will call you back". I think that might be the best we see in some of the coming months.
Perhaps you guys feel the same way about JFK? Not sure if it is painful for you as LHR has become for the other team.
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YOUR new home!
Many thanks to silverelise, post #352, for the up-dated version
of the wonderful banner reading "Welcome to your new home".
Very well done, and very apt! Thanks.
of the wonderful banner reading "Welcome to your new home".
Very well done, and very apt! Thanks.
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Query regarding my mental ability
No Ubreakmefix, not psychic, pure psycho...... Then most of BA employees are feelimg mentally stretched with the sheer unadulterated incompetence of our leadership team and their leaching underlings.
Glad to be of service, if 78 flights is the total, email Willie @
[email protected] or instead of calling that stupid helpline that is always engaged, why not give his lordship a call on +44 20 8738 5117 and tell him what you really think of his performance. Maybe if anyone has any suitable job offers they may wish to make him a proposal?
Sure his inbox will be full of complementary musings from his supporters telling him how he should stay on and see through this move into that big bad building that bit him so hard on his tiny arse......
Alll things are small with Wee Willie, budgets, training even his apologies!!!
Glad to be of service, if 78 flights is the total, email Willie @
[email protected] or instead of calling that stupid helpline that is always engaged, why not give his lordship a call on +44 20 8738 5117 and tell him what you really think of his performance. Maybe if anyone has any suitable job offers they may wish to make him a proposal?
Sure his inbox will be full of complementary musings from his supporters telling him how he should stay on and see through this move into that big bad building that bit him so hard on his tiny arse......
Alll things are small with Wee Willie, budgets, training even his apologies!!!
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Famous last words
Nice collectgion of famous quotes from Wee Willie;
From telegraph;
Willie Walsh, chief executive of British Airways, had sought to assure us at the beginning of this month: "The opening of Heathrow's Terminal 5 will change the way international travellers look at Britain"
Damn right it did Willie, you really are a man of your word...
From telegraph;
Willie Walsh, chief executive of British Airways, had sought to assure us at the beginning of this month: "The opening of Heathrow's Terminal 5 will change the way international travellers look at Britain"
Damn right it did Willie, you really are a man of your word...
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Love BAEng's term of disapprobation "leaching underlings"; pun or not Day 2 LHR T5 is still washed up it seems.
On a statistical basis it has to get better. It must get better.
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On a statistical basis it has to get better. It must get better.
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Still waiting for my bag.... we were stuck on the BA aircraft for 2 hours, Very poor handling from the captain... if at least he would say that he has no news either, something, anything but not saying anything at all?? He let his cabin crew down because they were getting all the hasle from the passengers. Passengers were very nice for the first 1h45min but then they got fed up. First the crew refused to leave with only half the bags on board. (At reclaim at the destination airport there were only about 20 people to report their lost bags). Then they said that they would leave with nog bags...
T5 looks very flash, it would be nice if it would work but I'm not suprised that it doesn't. Most peole I met when working around London just don't care, nobody cares, nobody takes responsibilities, you continuously get passed to another call center, nobody knows about anything.
Additionaly, at least one thing didn't change when T5 opened. BA still doesn't leave on time.
T5 looks very flash, it would be nice if it would work but I'm not suprised that it doesn't. Most peole I met when working around London just don't care, nobody cares, nobody takes responsibilities, you continuously get passed to another call center, nobody knows about anything.
Additionaly, at least one thing didn't change when T5 opened. BA still doesn't leave on time.
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T5
All this terminal 5 blather is going to pall into insignificance
before too long when WWW ,aka,Wonderful Willie Walsh, takes
on the pilots over his wonderful " Open Skies " brainwave.
Think youv'e got problems now Willie, Just wait and see how
problematic life really CAN become. Boy o Boy!
before too long when WWW ,aka,Wonderful Willie Walsh, takes
on the pilots over his wonderful " Open Skies " brainwave.
Think youv'e got problems now Willie, Just wait and see how
problematic life really CAN become. Boy o Boy!
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OPenlies dispute
Stormin, really hate to 
on your parade, whilst i agree completely with what your saying, there is the 'other' thread for that kind'a comment. However while we're on subject, he can't, he wouldn't, do you really think he'd have anything left of his tiny ball bag after this fiasco to risk getting his scrotum squeezed anymore by out professional and very dedicate colleagues at the pointy end bit... ( I get confused on 777 as the rear is more pointy than the front)
There is a wind of change a blowing through BA, it is time for all of the employees to stand together as one, pull together as a team, get 'winning for customers' and rid ourselves of a whole load of empty ballast holding us back.
Oh, that's you Willy and the LT team if your reading
on your parade, whilst i agree completely with what your saying, there is the 'other' thread for that kind'a comment. However while we're on subject, he can't, he wouldn't, do you really think he'd have anything left of his tiny ball bag after this fiasco to risk getting his scrotum squeezed anymore by out professional and very dedicate colleagues at the pointy end bit... ( I get confused on 777 as the rear is more pointy than the front)There is a wind of change a blowing through BA, it is time for all of the employees to stand together as one, pull together as a team, get 'winning for customers' and rid ourselves of a whole load of empty ballast holding us back.
Oh, that's you Willy and the LT team if your reading
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Sadly I really think he will push it. It's starting to become apparent that WWs strategy is to blindly pursue whatever idea comes into his head with little regard for reality. It's his airline, and his right to manage it is more important to him than the fallout of his ideas.
