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I suspect it may be even worse than just pulling MAN long haul, I wouldn't be surprised if 1 or 2 330's go back to the leasing company marking the end of any ambitions bmi had to be a long haul airline. Certainly the revised Saudi schedules don't require another 330 and I can't see us using them on the mid haul routes. I reckon some could stand it (Tehran, Tel Aviv,) but I can't see the high-ups risking it in the current climate. In addition to job cuts I reckon lots of scale B pilots need to prepare for a pay cut.
tis Friday,and half the business day gone already, another wet fart ?
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No announcement. Just more Rumours.
Bmi has plenty of cash in the bank, all 3 sections of the business is doing very well and nearly every Airline in the world wants a piece of bmi.
Those that can't afford a slice wants to see bmi fail because bmi are riding high. Just like a football team at the top of the league.
Bmi has plenty of cash in the bank, all 3 sections of the business is doing very well and nearly every Airline in the world wants a piece of bmi.
Those that can't afford a slice wants to see bmi fail because bmi are riding high. Just like a football team at the top of the league.
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It was posted on Tuesday that the Unions had all been told that the meeting on Friday was cancelled, so NO announcement was to be made. The meeting & announcement were not rumours - all union officials connected with Manchester were invited to be there at 1030 & the announcement was to be made at 1100. Why are people still waiting for an announcement that has already been cancelled!??
I'm sure it will be made sooner or later, but for anybody waiting for a big announcement today - don't hold your breath!!
I'm sure it will be made sooner or later, but for anybody waiting for a big announcement today - don't hold your breath!!
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Frankie,
You say Union officials connected with Manchester, but are they exclusive to Manchester or could they be the same for other bases, such as Heathrow? And are they bmi regional and bmi baby as well?
babybaby
You say Union officials connected with Manchester, but are they exclusive to Manchester or could they be the same for other bases, such as Heathrow? And are they bmi regional and bmi baby as well?
babybaby
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BD's operations are like a 'Yoyo' at the moment.
Take the replacement of the A319/320 at LBA & MME, To a E 145.
What will they do when some of the flights are full??
And the MAN LH operations??
BD are not MAN's favourite Airline at the moment.
Are these operational decisions coming direct from Sir Michael or from Mr Reed & his troops??
Personally I think it's time Sir Michael hung his boots up, Stood down and gave way to a younger leader - A new pair of eyes on the job??
He's done his bit 30 + years.
Reading into Sir michael's life etc, I think He's now 'Stagnating' and running out of ideas.
It could be a change for the better for the future of BD/BMI.
He can't run forever??
Take the replacement of the A319/320 at LBA & MME, To a E 145.
What will they do when some of the flights are full??
And the MAN LH operations??
BD are not MAN's favourite Airline at the moment.
Are these operational decisions coming direct from Sir Michael or from Mr Reed & his troops??
Personally I think it's time Sir Michael hung his boots up, Stood down and gave way to a younger leader - A new pair of eyes on the job??
He's done his bit 30 + years.
Reading into Sir michael's life etc, I think He's now 'Stagnating' and running out of ideas.
It could be a change for the better for the future of BD/BMI.
He can't run forever??
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Probably won't be full seeing as the morning first flight is after 08:00 from LBA. The early slots at LHR are being used by the mid haul services & as these are rumoured to be some of the most profitable bits that makes sense. The big picture and all that......
Ultimately the future is likely to be LH - not long haul but Lufthansa!
Ultimately the future is likely to be LH - not long haul but Lufthansa!
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Absolutely, the December call option is just around the corner and we await the blitzkrieg! They said they were going to take us over so lets wait and see... In the meantime it does look like Manchester and the A330s won't be around much longer, sad for anyone involved there.
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BMI has just changed direction thats all. With the acquisition of Bmed they managed to get their hands on a lucrative market that was previously well out of their reach. That meant they could get away from the S/H market that is currently being filled with LO CO's slaughtering each other. It may have been a stroke of luck when they got Bmed but they have pretty much got the operation running well now and it is now the core business. L/H, domestics etc are now just additional slot keepers.
We have always known that if they could use the 330's out of LHR on routes where they could put around 40 business class seats then would be out of MAN like march hares. Anyone who joined bmi before L/H went to MAN knows that full well, for those that joined when the operation was up and running it would of been nice for them to have been told.
Having said that the owners of MAN will not want another large carrier pulling L/H routes from their airport and may tempt bmi to stay longer.
It may also be that they do get rid of the 330's all together and keep costs down in readiness for the great Lufty saga that will unfold in due course.
We have always known that if they could use the 330's out of LHR on routes where they could put around 40 business class seats then would be out of MAN like march hares. Anyone who joined bmi before L/H went to MAN knows that full well, for those that joined when the operation was up and running it would of been nice for them to have been told.
Having said that the owners of MAN will not want another large carrier pulling L/H routes from their airport and may tempt bmi to stay longer.
It may also be that they do get rid of the 330's all together and keep costs down in readiness for the great Lufty saga that will unfold in due course.
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The BIG announcement!!
Well - the announcement about the BIG announcement has finally been announced!!
It is on Wednesday 5th November at Donington Hall. Meeting with the Unions before Nigel Turner makes his important company announcement.
I think we all know what it's going to be!! very sad times ahead with a lot of people affected.
It is on Wednesday 5th November at Donington Hall. Meeting with the Unions before Nigel Turner makes his important company announcement.
I think we all know what it's going to be!! very sad times ahead with a lot of people affected.
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Having said that the owners of MAN will not want another large carrier pulling L/H routes from their airport and may tempt bmi to stay longer.
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No they won't, And I don't think they would live to accept it?
BD have been at MAN about 12 years or so now, Remember when they started on the Dom flights.
For a long time BD were one of the few Carriers who didn't operate from MAN, And on very rare occasions our - LBA based DC9 called in.
If BD 'Fire' MAN up, MAN might tell BD to pull out altogether?
MAN's ultimatum might be - If your'e not going to run LH, Then why should you stay and run SH?
BD's SH routes are served by the remaining Op's.
BD need to be 'CLEAR' with the Airports they serve as to what their future plans are at the 5th November meeting.
Or it could be a 'Big' Firework Display not in their favour.
Having said that the owners of MAN will not want another large carrier pulling L/H routes from their airport and may tempt bmi to stay longer.
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No they won't, And I don't think they would live to accept it?
BD have been at MAN about 12 years or so now, Remember when they started on the Dom flights.
For a long time BD were one of the few Carriers who didn't operate from MAN, And on very rare occasions our - LBA based DC9 called in.
If BD 'Fire' MAN up, MAN might tell BD to pull out altogether?
MAN's ultimatum might be - If your'e not going to run LH, Then why should you stay and run SH?
BD's SH routes are served by the remaining Op's.
BD need to be 'CLEAR' with the Airports they serve as to what their future plans are at the 5th November meeting.
Or it could be a 'Big' Firework Display not in their favour.
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5th November? Cancel the fireworks, dust off the German dictionary and learn how to pronounce Guten Tag properly, Lufthansa UK it's to be?? 
Seriously it will be a great loss if BMI stop l/h flying from MAN, as a former business travel agent I booked many a pax from MAN across the pond, most would request BMI as their first choice to get to ORD. Good luck to all of you involved if this is indeed what the announcement is all about. I wonder if there will be repercussions for Regional and Baby too?
Seriously it will be a great loss if BMI stop l/h flying from MAN, as a former business travel agent I booked many a pax from MAN across the pond, most would request BMI as their first choice to get to ORD. Good luck to all of you involved if this is indeed what the announcement is all about. I wonder if there will be repercussions for Regional and Baby too?
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The omens are not good.
Caribbean routes bookable into 2009 (October) but the BD705/6 is now missing. flybmi dot com no longer carries Chicago as a destination and routes onward flights to the USA through heathrow on codescares.
Caribbean routes bookable into 2009 (October) but the BD705/6 is now missing. flybmi dot com no longer carries Chicago as a destination and routes onward flights to the USA through heathrow on codescares.
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MAPLC asking bmi to pull altogether would be financial suicide for them at this particular stage in the game, what with all aspects of business suffering and the economy bleeding money
Lets all wait and see what this announcement will be! rather than spreading rumours and upsetting all and sundry.
However if it was to be bad news like bmi pulling the long haul routes then why would they call the press in, bmi are a limited co and not public and therefore are not required to announce any good or bad news to the press
So lets just wait and see
Lets all wait and see what this announcement will be! rather than spreading rumours and upsetting all and sundry.
However if it was to be bad news like bmi pulling the long haul routes then why would they call the press in, bmi are a limited co and not public and therefore are not required to announce any good or bad news to the press
So lets just wait and see
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WhiteHatter - I'm a little puzzled about your post. I've just checked flybmi.com and found that BD705 from MAN to ORD on 9 Oct 2009 is available for booking.
Would you be kind enough to give a little more info as to what you meant by 'missing' or Chicago not being available as a destination ?
Would you be kind enough to give a little more info as to what you meant by 'missing' or Chicago not being available as a destination ?
