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I've just had an e-mail from my inlaws who called them. They've been told it will be a 767 until further notice with the 757 returning sometime in April. They have been assured that a 73 wont be used again on the SFB route. Hmmmm????
If thats the case, why havent they getting their ETOPS back again? Unless they know the 76 will vanish as soon as they can find someone to take it and the 73 will be back..
Inlaws in a panic now. Last thing they want is a huge delay, stuck in an airport with 3 small children and a 12 hour flight on a 73 to look forward to with no IFE.. GSM did say they would be e-mailed with any changes nearer the time but that could be the day before, if at all going by previous history.
Anyone got more info on what GSM are planning?. 8 desperate people awaiting your help. I've tried and cant get anything specific.
If thats the case, why havent they getting their ETOPS back again? Unless they know the 76 will vanish as soon as they can find someone to take it and the 73 will be back..
Inlaws in a panic now. Last thing they want is a huge delay, stuck in an airport with 3 small children and a 12 hour flight on a 73 to look forward to with no IFE.. GSM did say they would be e-mailed with any changes nearer the time but that could be the day before, if at all going by previous history.
Anyone got more info on what GSM are planning?. 8 desperate people awaiting your help. I've tried and cant get anything specific.
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Will Flyglobespan be keeping there 767 G-CEOG to work alongside the NEOS 767 if NEOS are leasing there other 767 to another airline ?
Surely they will need to get ETOPS back no matter what if there to use there own 757 on the YHM flights or does it matter flying to Toronto without ETOPS ?
Surely they will need to get ETOPS back no matter what if there to use there own 757 on the YHM flights or does it matter flying to Toronto without ETOPS ?
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hi,
Its great to know we are actually getting some fact from someone in globespan, not the guff I was given when phoning the various numbers I tried today!
So our flight time of 10 hours 30 minutes to sandford includes a tech stop? or are they just allowing for one in the flight time? I thought the flight time was higher due to non ETOPs route? why are they allowing time then ntelling everyone there will defo be NO stop?
So in theory if the 757 is still not available in April then we will have the 767 which hopefully by then will have ETOPS so althought we are down as having a the above flight time it will only be a 9hour 30m flight? What about if you have etops back and its the 757 can it make it straight over the pond so agian a much shorter flight time?
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Kenny
Probably be informed by the captain with his pre-take off brief!
Well, the 757 is back in GLA but I'm yet to hear when it might be operational.
G-CEOD the 767 from the now defunct SB contract is away for a week on a charter but will be back in GLA on 3rd Feb. This will be used for the SFB, in the meantime. GSM is scheduling SFB with 757 flight times which include a tech stop. After last year's problems, delays and unscheduled stops are something we are trying very hard to avoid!
ps. We are working on getting ETOPS back asap.
Its great to know we are actually getting some fact from someone in globespan, not the guff I was given when phoning the various numbers I tried today!
So our flight time of 10 hours 30 minutes to sandford includes a tech stop? or are they just allowing for one in the flight time? I thought the flight time was higher due to non ETOPs route? why are they allowing time then ntelling everyone there will defo be NO stop?
So in theory if the 757 is still not available in April then we will have the 767 which hopefully by then will have ETOPS so althought we are down as having a the above flight time it will only be a 9hour 30m flight? What about if you have etops back and its the 757 can it make it straight over the pond so agian a much shorter flight time?
Thanks
Kenny
Probably be informed by the captain with his pre-take off brief!
Well, the 757 is back in GLA but I'm yet to hear when it might be operational.
G-CEOD the 767 from the now defunct SB contract is away for a week on a charter but will be back in GLA on 3rd Feb. This will be used for the SFB, in the meantime. GSM is scheduling SFB with 757 flight times which include a tech stop. After last year's problems, delays and unscheduled stops are something we are trying very hard to avoid!
ps. We are working on getting ETOPS back asap.
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Thanks Luvly Jubbly, I hope this is the case! What I can't understand is why GSM keep leasing out the 767's when these are the best a/c to cross the pond. Is it that they can't fill them up?
I don't like 737's at the best of time, alright for a short haul but not the Atlantic! 752's not much better but at least we'll get there at a reasonable time.
I don't like 737's at the best of time, alright for a short haul but not the Atlantic! 752's not much better but at least we'll get there at a reasonable time.
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737's across the atlantic
There are no plans to send any 737's across the atlantic this year, we have been assured that this would only happen in a rescue situation and as a last resort.
The 767/757 will operate the GLA - SFB route until the NEOS 767 arrives around May.
ETOPS should be back in place soon all going to plan.
The 767/757 will operate the GLA - SFB route until the NEOS 767 arrives around May.
ETOPS should be back in place soon all going to plan.
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That is reassuring to hear that there are no plans to send the 737 to Orlando. Things hopefully looking up for myself who is due to travel on the 24.4.08 hopefully on the 757 with ETOPS and not stops 
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"That is reassuring to hear that there are no plans to send the 737 to Orlando. Things hopefully looking up for myself who is due to travel on the 24.4.08 hopefully on the 757 with ETOPS and not stops"
The 757 will not make the crossing in one go, a fuel stop in Bangor or the like would be on the cards.
The 757 will not make the crossing in one go, a fuel stop in Bangor or the like would be on the cards.
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Sounds like there are a few of us due to fly on 24.4.08. Does anyone know what would happen if they use the 767 that day instead of the 757. Just asking as we have paid money to reserve seats but wondered what would happen if they use a different plane
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It is being sold as a non stop service, I'm sure they would not sell this had it been physically impossible for the 757 to do so, surely this is against some rule or regulation?
Interested to know the same as LES353 (Hi!) We are on the same flight and if its the 767 with etops I assume we'll get into sandford 90 odd minutes early but if its the 757 with etops and the plane is half full will it still the be the 10 hours 30 minutes and is this time including a stop at bangor why the catagorically state will not be required?
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Kenny
"That is reassuring to hear that there are no plans to send the 737 to Orlando. Things hopefully looking up for myself who is due to travel on the 24.4.08 hopefully on the 757 with ETOPS and not stops"
The 757 will not make the crossing in one go, a fuel stop in Bangor or the like would be on the cards.
Interested to know the same as LES353 (Hi!) We are on the same flight and if its the 767 with etops I assume we'll get into sandford 90 odd minutes early but if its the 757 with etops and the plane is half full will it still the be the 10 hours 30 minutes and is this time including a stop at bangor why the catagorically state will not be required?
Thanks
Kenny
"That is reassuring to hear that there are no plans to send the 737 to Orlando. Things hopefully looking up for myself who is due to travel on the 24.4.08 hopefully on the 757 with ETOPS and not stops"
The 757 will not make the crossing in one go, a fuel stop in Bangor or the like would be on the cards.
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Les,
If you've paid to reserve seats and they change the plane they should give you comparible seating. Problem is the layout on a 76 and 75 is different (2-2-2 business, 2-3-2 ecc on 76, and 2-2 business 3-3 ecc on 75) so you'll be moved around a bit depending on what plane you get. you'll also have 2 aisles on a 76 compared to 1 on the 75.
As the current 76 has the original 3 class layout the early birds should get the old PE seats with 34" pitch as well. If they get another 76 that could change.
If you've paid to reserve seats and they change the plane they should give you comparible seating. Problem is the layout on a 76 and 75 is different (2-2-2 business, 2-3-2 ecc on 76, and 2-2 business 3-3 ecc on 75) so you'll be moved around a bit depending on what plane you get. you'll also have 2 aisles on a 76 compared to 1 on the 75.
As the current 76 has the original 3 class layout the early birds should get the old PE seats with 34" pitch as well. If they get another 76 that could change.
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Are Flyglobespan planning on replacing the 767's with the 787's when they come or will they be working side by side ?
This interview with TD on the 2nd of Jan is confusing by saying that they want to replace the 767's and that they want to use the 787's on the GLA-SFB route and the west canada routes will be operated by the other 787 so surely they will still need the 767's if acording to this interview he's also planning on launching a daily service from London Gatwick via Manchester - orlando sanford !
Interview is pretty long talking about everything that happened summer 2007 the part about the 787's etc is nearer the bottom.
http://www.insider.co.uk/editorial/c...name_page.html
This interview with TD on the 2nd of Jan is confusing by saying that they want to replace the 767's and that they want to use the 787's on the GLA-SFB route and the west canada routes will be operated by the other 787 so surely they will still need the 767's if acording to this interview he's also planning on launching a daily service from London Gatwick via Manchester - orlando sanford !
Interview is pretty long talking about everything that happened summer 2007 the part about the 787's etc is nearer the bottom.
http://www.insider.co.uk/editorial/c...name_page.html
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Absoutely, categorically, undeniably, a 757 can not do Glasgow to Orlando without a tech stop for refuelling unless it's damn near empty.
If GlobeSham are telling you otherwise, they are mis-selling and are falling foul of trades description rules. If they are misleading you by specifically saying your 757 flights will go non-stop, ask them to put it in writing; then you have evidence of their mis-selling.
Who would believe anything from them though on past performance.
Stoney
If GlobeSham are telling you otherwise, they are mis-selling and are falling foul of trades description rules. If they are misleading you by specifically saying your 757 flights will go non-stop, ask them to put it in writing; then you have evidence of their mis-selling.
Who would believe anything from them though on past performance.
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I'm thinking about flying from Aberdeen to Faro with GSM this summer. I fllew to the same destination last year with GSM, punctual service, nice newish 737 and friendly cabin crew. I just couldn't fault it.
My wife seems to think that the same flight from Aberdeen is going to stop in Glasgow on route to Faro??? I just can't see it. Someone please tell me this aint true?
My wife seems to think that the same flight from Aberdeen is going to stop in Glasgow on route to Faro??? I just can't see it. Someone please tell me this aint true?
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I doubt very much GSM could operate GLA-SFB non stop on the B752. It's more than 100nm more than TXL-EWR that CO often struggle with. CO have to block 40 seats off westbound to guarantee they can make it non stop, and GSM have a good few more seats on their B752, and no winglets. Both airlines using RB211 machines.
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A full 757 can do GLA-SFB- full or empty. More likely on the reverse leg though. Would like to see any evidence to the contrary
Max range B752 with RB211-535E4B approx 3,700nm
Distance GLA-SFB 4,110nm approx.
Factor in wind and whether GSM happen to have ETOPS approval or not on the day you fly.
No way in hell will a full 757 make GLA-SFB/MCO 99% of the time. If they've told you you're flying on a 757, you'll be tech stopping en-route at least outbound.
Tell the truth; your passengers deserve at least that.
ref: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/air...ps/753sec3.pdf
