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Old 11th Jun 2008, 15:24
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Grrr

no we mean the anouncement in June re: manston airport. as to MK, manston is one of their major bases, so no problem if its mentioned on a manston thread.
Infatil will be sad at the loss, but what to replace it with ? ahh, the important afor mentioned anouncement in June, just a reminder though, I am still holding my breath. as in my previous thread.
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 11:30
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MK et al.

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Thanks for the input, rest assured I was merely attempting to prevent an in depth discussion on whether MK would survive or not. This would not be the place for that discussion. Clearly, the loss of MK will mean an effect on MSE, fortunately at this time of year not so serious as later when MK cargo flights are normally more frequent.


On another subject, it has been reported that a Royal Jordanian Cargo Airbus A310-304(F) was observed at Manston on 12th June. Is this a new customer perhaps or maybe just a one off visit?
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 18:15
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On another subject, it has been reported that a Royal Jordanian Cargo Airbus A310-304(F) was observed at Manston on 12th June. Is this a new customer perhaps or maybe just a one off visit?
Don't they normal fly from Stansted? Maybe they doing what MK did and Move to Manston but it probley just is a one off.

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Old 15th Jun 2008, 08:12
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MSE Cargo

A 2nd cargo operator who use MSE, I understand also has a cash flow problem.
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Who's that then ???????????????????????????????????????????????
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Aaaah Flaps.....you disappoint ! I'd have put money on that post appearing 5 days ago !
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:24
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So with MK gone how many airliners would Manston handle on an average day?
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 06:21
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Kent International handled 1,342 tonnes of freight in May. This is half of the throughput of May 2007 due ot both an early end to the produce import season and also the profitability issues being experienced by MK Airlines.

Seasonality remains a key issue with the produce business and it is noted that the May throughput was substantially higher than the June 2007 total of 749 tonnes.

On 11 June, MK Airlines Ltd advised it has suspended operations and appointed administrators after failing to secure investment to help refinance the company and secure more fuel-efficient aircraft. Fuel costs had already resulted in part of the May downturn as MK chose to truck some produce from Luxembourg rather than fly directly to the UK.

Kent International, through its three scheduled carriers (MK Airlines, Egypt Air and Cargolux), has had a substantial market share in the African produce import market. If MK does not recommence flying, the IAEL team will be working very hard to identify alternative capacity to replace the MK flying by time the produce import business returns strongly after the UK summer.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 18:58
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It's June, and here's an announcement, albeit in AirCargoNews.

WORKING in conjunction with the owners of Glasgow Prestwick Airport, Infratil Airports, the Prestwick division of Hellmann Worldwide Logistics has stepped up handling of horses imported into the UK. The company claims it has developed a ‘hassle free’ and thriving service for importers that it is now looking set to be rolled out across Hellmann Worldwide Logistics UK.

With the UK being a major influence in this industry, imports into the country are high. However with only four Equine Border Inspection Posts (BIP’s) equipped to handle the arrival of horses into the UK, the market is highly competitive.

The equine BIP at Prestwick is also the only one based in the north of the UK. As a result, it is seeing a rise in horses being imported, in particular from the USA.

David Yeamans, branch manager, Hellmann Worldwide Logistics Prestwick, said: “We have found that many of our customers use Prestwick as an alternative to other equine BIP locations such as Stansted, as it is less congested, both in the air and on the ground. This means there are rarely any delays, which in turn makes Glasgow Prestwick a more cost effective solution for customers.

“We make contact with the shipper and keep the UK importer fully updated on flight times, costs and other important information that they may require. This means that the customer doesn’t have to worry about paper work or calling airlines for updates. We can also organise horse transportation for customers unable to collect animals from the airport. We have found that importers really appreciate this trouble free experience.”

Nico Le Roux, group manager of freight development for Infratil Airports, said: “We have approached Hellmann Prestwick to manage the proposed equine BIP at Kent International due to the expertise it has shown in handling the Prestwick operations and due to the exceptional relationships it has within the equine industry. It means that Hellmann Prestwick would have 100 per cent control of the Kent equine BIP and provide the same high standards of service that it currently provides in Prestwick.”

Martin Meyer, managing director of Hellmann Worldwide Logistics, said: “The fact that Hellmann Prestwick has been offered such a great opportunity is testament to the hard work and dedication we bring to any project, in particular the specialist products we provide such as fashion and automotive. The equine product has the potential to be another string to our bow and we are very excited by what could unfold as a result of Prestwick’s dedication to this service.”
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King Pong asks - " how many airliners would Manston handle on an average day ".

Unfortunately, legitimate air transport movements at MSE can no longer be measured on a "per day" basis. There are one or two passenger charters per week for the summer, and one freight flight on Tuesday, plus other ad hoc freight movements.
One might estimate total activity at around 15-20 landings per month (excluding training bumps).

Catflaps - " Is Manston jinxed ? ".

I suppose the answer to this is simple. If you believe in "jinxes" then it must be, for the proportion of failed ventures associated with Manston is exceptionally high. If you don't believe in such things then it isn't!

There are, of course, a few (hopefully!) non-failing operations using MSE.

One thing is likely, however. If a company or individual were making a risk evaluation of a particular venture, then an involvement with MSE might form part of the statistics they use to arrive at a conclusion.
Manston cannot be held directly responsible for all failures associated with it, but unfortunately, causality is not always a feature of statistical risk analysis. (This is why, for example, certain colours of motor vehicle are more expensive to insure than others).

Personally, I was recently asked to finance a new company, but the fact that this company was to have an association with MSE raised (for me at least) questions about the company's overall credibility, and was one of a number of reasons I politely declined.

I believe the venture did not go ahead.
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A 2nd cargo operator who use MSE, I understand also has a cash flow problem
Do pray tell ???
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Old 20th Jun 2008, 18:02
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work it for yourself, they use old aircraft and often park up at MSE.
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It all depends on how you define the South East?

In a typically truculent performance at the airline's annual results presentation, O'Leary branded the airports regulator "haplessly stupid and incompetent"; described BA's fuel surcharges as a "scam" and criticised environmentalists for campaigning against additional runways. Green protesters needed to "get over it", he said. "If you live around Heathrow and you don't like living beside an airport, sell the house and move. But the south-east of England needs more capacity and it is about time we got on and built it."

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Old 1st Jul 2008, 18:47
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news announcement was due in June ?
I have looked back and canot find a post that said a announcement re-manston was to made in june.
Only the jet engine repair new factory news.
I understand the airports development is going much to plan.
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 20:44
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Also heard from a source at the airport there is supposed to be some sort of announcment in June, lets hope its pax back : : 396

I never said there would be a good news announcement, only that i hoped there might be.

Did hear that a meeting was held with owners and staff and plans were still very positive considering todays climate.
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Old 8th Jul 2008, 13:33
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Can anyone out there tell me more about the hotel and parking on the ground opposite the terminal, first time i have seen the posters on the old garage land , mind you i always thought this was the idea years ago ,for a motel and conference centre.any comments please would be welcome.
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Old 11th Jul 2008, 21:59
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rumours

Well us Thanet dwellers have been hearing rumours about Manston for years, and we heard them about Westwood Cross,but it did happen eventually !!!!! It just seems that everything takes for ever to come about and there is all the cloak and dagger stuff to contend with. I heard weeks ago that some big name budget airline were about to come to Manston but as usual not a dicky bird since. I have spent the last 3 years frightened to book a flight to Spain just incase an announcment comes from Manston just after I have booked. I think that people are loosing faith and this Forum prooves the point, there has hardly been any rumours on here, nor even a decent row for months. What a shame !!! if we have lost interest, I wonder how the rest of the catchment area feel, they probably have forgotten where Kent International Airport is by now. Of course the "SURVEY" was great but as yet we have been told nothing about the response, mind you I am still meeting people that knew nothing about it, could that possibly be down to the poorest media coverage I have ever seen. Still who knows there may be some bright spark out there that will swoop into Manston and bombard the general public with a brillient advertising campaign and persuade at least one of the budget airlines to dip thier toe in the water,,,,, then again maybe not.!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I like your style
At least common sense prevails in some people
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Old 12th Jul 2008, 18:09
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I fear the future will be dire for your good selves waiting for action at KIA. It isn't looking so good at LHR / LGW and many carriers will be cutting between 20-30% of their services this winter. As in previous recessions joe public will stop flying and that will hit the LoCo's as well as BA. On a positive note you have survived a number of recessions in the past and will continue to soldier on. I will continue to make my annual August pilgrimage to Ramsgate and the airport. Is anything happening with the 707?
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Old 16th Jul 2008, 12:28
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The June report...

Kent International handled 864 tonnes of freight in June, up 15% on the performance in June 2007. June is a very weak month for the produce imports which remain the mainstay of the Kent business.

EgyptAir and Cargolux both improved on their prior year total, however the MK Airlines volume was zero. MK has resumed flying after securing new investment, however is flying into mainland European airports over the summer months in line with their activity during 2007.

The year-to-date freight volume of 5,231 tonnes is 7% behind the equivalent period in 2007 due to the poor May result.
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