MD80 plane crash in Phuket, Sep. 07
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A surviving Thai passenger said the plane "landed hard" and "bounced" and then skidded off the runway. Civil aviation official Chiasak Angkauwan said, "the airplane requested to land but due to the weather in Phuket -- strong wind and heavy rain -- maybe the pilot did not see the runway clearly."
"The plane then fell onto the runway and broke into two. It is expected that there will be a lot of casualties."
"We are rescuing people from the aircraft ... we know now there were 123 passengers and five crew," he told the news channel.
"We won't know what really happened until we get information from the black box."
"The plane then fell onto the runway and broke into two. It is expected that there will be a lot of casualties."
"We are rescuing people from the aircraft ... we know now there were 123 passengers and five crew," he told the news channel.
"We won't know what really happened until we get information from the black box."
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Very sad to hear....
I understand that two cabin crew have survived....no word on the thrid CC and the two pilots.
Condolences to those who lost loved ones.
I have a lot to say having worked there in the past, but here is not the place. I hope good things come out of this unfortunate event.
Heavy...
I understand that two cabin crew have survived....no word on the thrid CC and the two pilots.
Condolences to those who lost loved ones.
I have a lot to say having worked there in the past, but here is not the place. I hope good things come out of this unfortunate event.
Heavy...
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Apparently both pilots survived: (Go to picture 4 and read the caption)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6997598.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6997598.stm
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could the spoilers have deployed and then it bounced?
if this happened, the second touchdown would have been rather hard.
do any photos show the position of thrust reversers, spoilers?
do any photos show the position of thrust reversers, spoilers?
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so, it seems that we have another plane skidding off a runway? like TAM airbus it was during rain.
unlike TAM airbus, this is not a fly by wire plane.
according to one person on this forum the runway was 9600feet long and that is pretty long...about 3000 feet longer than the TAM crash.
anyone in thailand know for a fact if the runway lights were on? (even if this was in daylight, runway lights can really help during rain)
unlike TAM airbus, this is not a fly by wire plane.
according to one person on this forum the runway was 9600feet long and that is pretty long...about 3000 feet longer than the TAM crash.
anyone in thailand know for a fact if the runway lights were on? (even if this was in daylight, runway lights can really help during rain)
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I've just seen a 10-9 chart for this airport...more than 9000 feet after a glideslope touchdown...though one end is at 82 feet, the other at 19 feet (threshold of 27 at 82 feet msl)
a low level windshear system is installed...
IT IS IMPORTANT to find out for sure which direction the plane was landing...even though it might make sense to land on 27 due to winds...it is something we need to find out FOR SURE.
ILS only on 27...PAPI ON BOTH but 3.2 degree on 27 I think (correct me if i am mistaken please)
sad...
by the way, there is a small over run on each end and I don't think that this runway will be the problem...it looks like a pretty good, more than long enough runway...the plane may not have gone off the end...more details I hope will be forthcoming
a low level windshear system is installed...
IT IS IMPORTANT to find out for sure which direction the plane was landing...even though it might make sense to land on 27 due to winds...it is something we need to find out FOR SURE.
ILS only on 27...PAPI ON BOTH but 3.2 degree on 27 I think (correct me if i am mistaken please)
sad...
by the way, there is a small over run on each end and I don't think that this runway will be the problem...it looks like a pretty good, more than long enough runway...the plane may not have gone off the end...more details I hope will be forthcoming
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Looking at the BBC pictures it looks like they veered right and hit the rising ground below the tower.
This picture shows the high ground to the south of the taxiway
There is a small road that runs outside the perimeter fence alongside the southern taxiway. Heavy rain is very normal in Phuket and most pilots accept it is part of the routine of operating in this area.
This the the approach plate for the airfield.
This picture shows the high ground to the south of the taxiway
There is a small road that runs outside the perimeter fence alongside the southern taxiway. Heavy rain is very normal in Phuket and most pilots accept it is part of the routine of operating in this area.
This the the approach plate for the airfield.
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published report of "go around"
there is a published report that the pilot had radioed and indicated he was going around.
certainly to be taken with a grain of salt, but if there was microburst etc the go around could have ended up on the runway
recall that a dc9 in charlotte was going around and then went down due to microburst some dozen years ago or more.
certainly to be taken with a grain of salt, but if there was microburst etc the go around could have ended up on the runway
recall that a dc9 in charlotte was going around and then went down due to microburst some dozen years ago or more.
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PASSENGER MANIFEST
123 passengers on board Flight OG 269, operated by airline One-Two-Go
* denotes those who have been confirmed survived or hospitalised.
1.Mr Werner Adelhardt
2.Ms Lily Alon
3.Mr Alain Bembaron
4.Mrs Brigitte Bino
5.Mr Itzhak Biton
6.Mr Alexius Boerkamp*
7.Mr Jeanmarie Bonachera
8.Mrs Josiane Bonachera
9.Mr Chawapon Boonmeechai
10.Mrs Wanaporn Boonsung
11.Mr Robert Borland*
12.Mr Philippe Bregeard
13.Mr William Burke*
14.Mr Sinchai Chaiarun
15.Mr Jakkapon Chairitinanon
16.Mr Parinyawith Choosang*
17.Mr Alexander Collins
18.Mr Chirstopher Cooley*
19.Mr Jesada Dechakul
20.Mr Colin Denny
21.Mrs Sawitree Denny*
22.Ms Hofit Eliya
23.Mr Christoph Falchetti*
24.Mr Michael Falcone
25.Mrs Mahsa Fatoorehchi*
26.Ms Arisa Fayad
27.Ms Tal Feldman
28.Ms Isabella Freylikhman*
29.Mr Vladimir Freylikhman*
30.Ms Anne Furlong*
31.Mrs Laetitia Gambu
32.Ms Hila Gershoni
33.Mr Saeid Ghayoumi
34.Ms Sansa Ghayoumi
35.Mr Scott Harrow*
36.Ms Madia Hashemi*
37.Mr Parviz Hashemi*
38.Mr Peter Hill*
39.Mrs Susan Howell
40.Mrs Sara Izadine
41.Chawit Jitjamnong*
42.Mr Chowalert Jitjamnong*
43.Mrs Siriphut Jitjamnong
44.Mr Alireza Jodatfar
45.Mr Jahangir Jodatfar
46.Mr Mohammadreza Jodatfar
47.Ms Bethan Jones
48.Mr Simon Jonsson
49.Ms Khatha Kanchanasutha
50.Mrs Ladda Khawnoun*
51.Mr Nong Khawnoun*
52.Mr Nasser Bonab
53.Ms Mehrana Movahed*
54.Mr Abbas Movahed*
55.Ms Mullika Koysin
56.Mr Chakart Kulwanich
57.Ms Pratin Lainjumroon*
58.Mr Thibaud Lamere
59.Mr Sudprasong Laosiriwut
60.Mr Likhit Liengphansakul*
61.Ms Fermina ******e
62.Mr Henri ******e
63.Mr Chainarong Maharae*
64.Mr Porrawit Mahasup*
65.Mr Teerayuth Manoorakchinakorn
66.Mr Christopher Markensven*
67.Mr Jacques Marnef
68.Ms Kaninnat Martmuang
69.Ms Wantana Meesang
70.Ms Amnuj Meesil
71.Ms Maryam Taheri*
72.Ms Mojgan Mohebbianjedani
73.Ms Fereshteh Mokhlesukhchi
74.Mr Brain Mullery
75.Mr Di Naima
76.Ms Rotem Naouri
77.Mr Erik Nihler
78.Mr John O'Donnell*
79.Mrs Homeira Omdeekhodaitehrani
80.Mrs Pranee Panyakong
81.Mr Paiboon Phaphan*
82.Mr Sanya Phromarak
83.Mr Rasqul Pourmehr
84.Mr Mahmoud Pourmehr
85.Mr Suchip Prantoon
86.Ms Puengboon Ratnadilok na Phuket
87.Mr Raj Rattanaphon
88.Ms Claudia Rothmann*
89.Mr Clemens Rothmann*
90.Mr Pichai Rueathong
91.Mr Mehoi Safaebtabrizi
92.Ms Cho Safaebtabrizi
93.Mr Hossein Safaebtabrizi
94.Mr Thanavut Saikay
95.Ms Fahimeh Salek
96.Ms Linnea Sandberg
97.Ms Patcharin Sattayapongsaporn
98.Mr Stephen Saunby
99.Ms Busakon Saunjarun
100.Ms Sabine Schumacher
101.Ms Supalak Shueaw
102.Mrs Benchawan Sichaiin
103.Mr Witchupol Singhapol*
104.Mrs Helen Slater
105.Mr Neil Slater
106.Mr Marcel Squinobal*
107.Mr Chatree Suksawas*
108.Mr Somphot Sungkhaphong
109.Ms Jiranuch Suwannarat
110.Mr Farshas Tazhibi
111.Mrs Yajai Thanyakarn
112.Ms Rachel Toland
113.Mr Aaron Toland
114.Mr Apichai Trompronpitakkul
115.Mrs Siriluk Tuptanee
116.Mr Sirikorn Unsakul
117.Mrs Somluk Unsakul
118.Mr Meysam Valaie
119.Mr Benjamin Voigtmann*
120.Mr Francis Weston
121.Mrs Mary Weston
122.Ms Marie Whittington*
123.Mr Stefan Woronoff
Important telephone numbers:
One-Two-Go Hotline 1126
Bangkok Phuket Hospital 076-254421-9
Siriroj Hospital 076-249400
Vajira Phuket Hospital 076-361234
Mission Phuket Hospital 076-237220-9
Thalang Hospital 076-311033
British Embassy's emergency centre 02-3058333
123 passengers on board Flight OG 269, operated by airline One-Two-Go
* denotes those who have been confirmed survived or hospitalised.
1.Mr Werner Adelhardt
2.Ms Lily Alon
3.Mr Alain Bembaron
4.Mrs Brigitte Bino
5.Mr Itzhak Biton
6.Mr Alexius Boerkamp*
7.Mr Jeanmarie Bonachera
8.Mrs Josiane Bonachera
9.Mr Chawapon Boonmeechai
10.Mrs Wanaporn Boonsung
11.Mr Robert Borland*
12.Mr Philippe Bregeard
13.Mr William Burke*
14.Mr Sinchai Chaiarun
15.Mr Jakkapon Chairitinanon
16.Mr Parinyawith Choosang*
17.Mr Alexander Collins
18.Mr Chirstopher Cooley*
19.Mr Jesada Dechakul
20.Mr Colin Denny
21.Mrs Sawitree Denny*
22.Ms Hofit Eliya
23.Mr Christoph Falchetti*
24.Mr Michael Falcone
25.Mrs Mahsa Fatoorehchi*
26.Ms Arisa Fayad
27.Ms Tal Feldman
28.Ms Isabella Freylikhman*
29.Mr Vladimir Freylikhman*
30.Ms Anne Furlong*
31.Mrs Laetitia Gambu
32.Ms Hila Gershoni
33.Mr Saeid Ghayoumi
34.Ms Sansa Ghayoumi
35.Mr Scott Harrow*
36.Ms Madia Hashemi*
37.Mr Parviz Hashemi*
38.Mr Peter Hill*
39.Mrs Susan Howell
40.Mrs Sara Izadine
41.Chawit Jitjamnong*
42.Mr Chowalert Jitjamnong*
43.Mrs Siriphut Jitjamnong
44.Mr Alireza Jodatfar
45.Mr Jahangir Jodatfar
46.Mr Mohammadreza Jodatfar
47.Ms Bethan Jones
48.Mr Simon Jonsson
49.Ms Khatha Kanchanasutha
50.Mrs Ladda Khawnoun*
51.Mr Nong Khawnoun*
52.Mr Nasser Bonab
53.Ms Mehrana Movahed*
54.Mr Abbas Movahed*
55.Ms Mullika Koysin
56.Mr Chakart Kulwanich
57.Ms Pratin Lainjumroon*
58.Mr Thibaud Lamere
59.Mr Sudprasong Laosiriwut
60.Mr Likhit Liengphansakul*
61.Ms Fermina ******e
62.Mr Henri ******e
63.Mr Chainarong Maharae*
64.Mr Porrawit Mahasup*
65.Mr Teerayuth Manoorakchinakorn
66.Mr Christopher Markensven*
67.Mr Jacques Marnef
68.Ms Kaninnat Martmuang
69.Ms Wantana Meesang
70.Ms Amnuj Meesil
71.Ms Maryam Taheri*
72.Ms Mojgan Mohebbianjedani
73.Ms Fereshteh Mokhlesukhchi
74.Mr Brain Mullery
75.Mr Di Naima
76.Ms Rotem Naouri
77.Mr Erik Nihler
78.Mr John O'Donnell*
79.Mrs Homeira Omdeekhodaitehrani
80.Mrs Pranee Panyakong
81.Mr Paiboon Phaphan*
82.Mr Sanya Phromarak
83.Mr Rasqul Pourmehr
84.Mr Mahmoud Pourmehr
85.Mr Suchip Prantoon
86.Ms Puengboon Ratnadilok na Phuket
87.Mr Raj Rattanaphon
88.Ms Claudia Rothmann*
89.Mr Clemens Rothmann*
90.Mr Pichai Rueathong
91.Mr Mehoi Safaebtabrizi
92.Ms Cho Safaebtabrizi
93.Mr Hossein Safaebtabrizi
94.Mr Thanavut Saikay
95.Ms Fahimeh Salek
96.Ms Linnea Sandberg
97.Ms Patcharin Sattayapongsaporn
98.Mr Stephen Saunby
99.Ms Busakon Saunjarun
100.Ms Sabine Schumacher
101.Ms Supalak Shueaw
102.Mrs Benchawan Sichaiin
103.Mr Witchupol Singhapol*
104.Mrs Helen Slater
105.Mr Neil Slater
106.Mr Marcel Squinobal*
107.Mr Chatree Suksawas*
108.Mr Somphot Sungkhaphong
109.Ms Jiranuch Suwannarat
110.Mr Farshas Tazhibi
111.Mrs Yajai Thanyakarn
112.Ms Rachel Toland
113.Mr Aaron Toland
114.Mr Apichai Trompronpitakkul
115.Mrs Siriluk Tuptanee
116.Mr Sirikorn Unsakul
117.Mrs Somluk Unsakul
118.Mr Meysam Valaie
119.Mr Benjamin Voigtmann*
120.Mr Francis Weston
121.Mrs Mary Weston
122.Ms Marie Whittington*
123.Mr Stefan Woronoff
Important telephone numbers:
One-Two-Go Hotline 1126
Bangkok Phuket Hospital 076-254421-9
Siriroj Hospital 076-249400
Vajira Phuket Hospital 076-361234
Mission Phuket Hospital 076-237220-9
Thalang Hospital 076-311033
British Embassy's emergency centre 02-3058333
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one photo may indicate the position of the flaps of the plane in question.
while it is impossible for me to tell, I do ask others to look closely...could the flaps be at the go around position or the landing position...?
of course it is possible they were retracted after the landing to allow for evacuation, BUT with the plane broken apart, it is doubtful the hydraulic lines are fully intact.
we shall see.
I could not see the spoiler position...
while it is impossible for me to tell, I do ask others to look closely...could the flaps be at the go around position or the landing position...?
of course it is possible they were retracted after the landing to allow for evacuation, BUT with the plane broken apart, it is doubtful the hydraulic lines are fully intact.
we shall see.
I could not see the spoiler position...
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Approximately westerly wind at about 10 - 12 kts with 3000m in rain is not particularly bad weather IMHO. Must have been something else wrong? Why was it trying to land on 09 (VOR/DME approach) instead of 27 ILS and into wind?
Phuket is not known for awkward winds. So was there some other factor at work? Hardly a difficult approach?
Phuket is not known for awkward winds. So was there some other factor at work? Hardly a difficult approach?
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MD-82 accident.
I note in the referenced blog that the aircraft was fitted with 175 seats. I'm not sure if this is a typo, but as a former MD-80 salesman, I am sure the aircraft was FAA certified for a maximum of 165 seats based on the number and type of doors and overwing exits.
