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Old 20th Sep 2019, 09:27
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Timings based on Flights inbound from Glasgow/Edinburgh, so again not ideal - BMA and Baby used based aircraft to fly those routes so departures away in slot one. My guess is Loganair like BEE were told no overnight stands available to accommodate early morning deps, and no plans to add to the concrete.
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 15:42
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Quote from the Loganair press release:

'Early in the new year, Loganair will upgrade the Glasgow-East Midlands service to three flights in each direction per weekday and introduce a much-improved, customer-friendly timetable on the route, enabling business travellers to enjoy a working day in either destination. The upgrade will take place as soon as operational resources permit.'

As a potential user of the Glasgow and Edinburgh services I see this is a service improvement with frequency increases and a jet aircraft. More importantly, the service might be more reliable - I use the train these days because of the regular Flybe delays and cancellations. It looks as though prices start at £49.99 which is more than Flybe's lower price but the Loganair fare normally includes free hold baggage so will work out cheaper for some. If Flybe drop Amsterdam hopefully that might lead to a better service too and I would imagine the Jersey loss will get picked up by someone, if only for summer.
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Old 16th Nov 2019, 13:10
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Will the new UPS facility at EMA result in increased UPS flights ?
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Old 16th Nov 2019, 20:33
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Considering the current challenging state of the air freight market I doubt there will be any immediate additions from UPS.
There have however been suggestions that their 767s will be upgraded to B748 in the not too distant future.

Is it known when the new hub will become operational and what is to happen to their existing facility?

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Old 8th Feb 2020, 21:18
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The jungle drums seem really quiet
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 18:11
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Roll on summer looking a little better foreign airlines include Alba star(2),Air europa,Balkan(2) and Freebird (2) ,Cargo sees the introduction of Kalitta on the CVG route from March
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 19:58
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I was chatting to a couple of mates in a pub and was shot down by them when I recalled EMA having Cat III approaches at both ends before the runway lengthening in 2000.

Am I imagining it? Iím sure I remember a Cat III approach to 09 in a F100 in 1999.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:47
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Never had anything but Cat I on 09, ILS is capable but not lighting
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 11:14
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Originally Posted by almost professional View Post
Never had anything but Cat I on 09, ILS is capable but not lighting
I don't know if anyone knows if there are any plans for Cat III on 09. I wonder if the airport sees little benefit from it. I suppose the number of occasions when an operator is unable to land on RW27 in the event of Cat III weather conditions are very few, The main issue would be tailwind with aircraft probably restricted to a maximum tailwind component of 10kts or less, but generally winds are light in foggy conditions so this isn't an issue.

Also the RW09 ILS (ILS Classification II/D/2 I believe) allows Lower than Standard Category I operations. I don't know whether this has been utilised, but I believe it gives an RVR minima of 400m, although I stand to be corrected on that.

I did wonder at the time of the major runway surfacing project whether that would be an opportunity to upgrade the lighting on RW09 - notably the need for TDZ lights, but it obviously didn't happen then. In the context of this discussion, Birmingham airport has been without even Cat I ILS on RW33 for over 6 months now and will remain so 'until further notice' apparently, but I'm not aware of there being any major disruptions over this winter so far?
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 15:37
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Can think of a handful of occasions in 30 years where Cat 111 on 09 would have allowed traffic otherwise lost to land, most will take up to 10kts tailwind and not often more than that in low vis.. Its all down to cost benefit, interestingly few operators were bothered with the reduced minima for 09 - not sure if it involved extra costs for them in training etc. Only downside is making ATC work harder if departures need the other end!
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 17:32
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Rats! Iíve just lost a bet!
I was quite certain Iíd done a cat 3 to 09 before the runway extension 20 years ago!

Better go and sit in a darkened room. 😂
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 04:03
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Summer 2020

Does anyone have any idea what will be based at EMA this summer? And is there any interesting W patterns or charter carriers?
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 09:37
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Flight schedule at the moment on our system is Tui 737x3,Fr 737x8 ,with Albastar visiting Tuesday pm and Wednesday pm ,Freebird showing Tuesday am and Friday am,Air europa showing Friday am ,Balkan showing Thursday am short season this year july-sep and Sunday am
We don't handle Jet2 last year it was 737x8 not shaw if its all 800's this year
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 09:55
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Loganair not launching Aberdeen-East Midlands later this month as was planned, due to lower than expected demand. Route deferred indefinitely.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 11:13
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Originally Posted by Arkroyal View Post
I was chatting to a couple of mates in a pub and was shot down by them when I recalled EMA having Cat III approaches at both ends before the runway lengthening in 2000.

Am I imagining it? Iím sure I remember a Cat III approach to 09 in a F100 in 1999.
Im with you on this one, Iím 99% sure EMA was CATIII on 09 until they extended the runway.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 12:16
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Originally Posted by Arkroyal View Post
Rats! Iíve just lost a bet!
I was quite certain Iíd done a cat 3 to 09 before the runway extension 20 years ago!

Better go and sit in a darkened room. 😂
That's the problem with Fish Heads they think anything can be solved by turning the boat round!! Sorry, but 09 was only Cat 1 and I've just checked it in a 2005 Aerad that I happen to have.

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Old 14th Feb 2020, 13:19
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Originally Posted by Paul Atkins144 View Post
Flight schedule at the moment on our system is Tui 737x3,Fr 737x8 ,with Albastar visiting Tuesday pm and Wednesday pm ,Freebird showing Tuesday am and Friday am,Air europa showing Friday am ,Balkan showing Thursday am short season this year july-sep and Sunday am
We don't handle Jet2 last year it was 737x8 not shaw if its all 800's this year


Thanks for that Paul. Do you know what routes the Albastars are operating? Thank you
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 07:37
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After loosing BHD and AMS services due to Flybe's unfortunate demise. Do we think anyone will take these routes on? Especially the Belfast route as this was once 5x daily , and recently atleast 3 daily. Maybe easyJet from BFS? KLM for the AMS . Any thoughts ?
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 08:49
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I would be surprised if KLM took the AMS route as they already fly to AMS from BHX.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 08:56
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Originally Posted by golfbananajam View Post
I would be surprised if KLM took the AMS route as they already fly to AMS from BHX.
Yes that's very true. But they do fly to a few UK airports that are around the same distance away.
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