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Old 1st Dec 2010, 08:40
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Was informed last week by Gambia Experience that despite best efforts they have not been able to source an airline for the season from Bristol or Stansted so in a word no...
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Old 4th Dec 2010, 20:18
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I see G-OOBK, The Thomson 767 is emerging from the hangar this afternoon, all nice and straight but not sure when it's going to fly.

Small Planet( Lithuanian) 737-300 due to arrive shortly,if not already here, Bristol based !!!, doing 2 rotations per week, but may pick up ad hoc charter work for rest of the week, perhaps it could operate the Gambia/ Cape Verde service that no one can be found to operate Bristol's or I think Stansted' s as well. I can't believe that, you'd have thought carriers would be jumping at the chance of extra revenue during this lean period.

Oh yes, Merry Christmas to all
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Old 6th Dec 2010, 00:46
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Small Planet( Lithuanian) 737-300 due to arrive shortly,if not already here, Bristol based !!!, doing 2 rotations per week, but may pick up ad hoc charter work for rest of the week, perhaps it could operate the Gambia/ Cape Verde service that no one can be found to operate Bristol's or I think Stansted' s as well. I can't believe that, you'd have thought carriers would be jumping at the chance of extra revenue during this lean period.
I maybe wrong but i thought the aircraft from Small Planet Airlines was arriving on Friday 10th December at 20.00 as LCC3099 from Vilnius (VNO) B737-300. It due out again on Sunday 12th Dec at 07.30 as LCC3051 to Chambery (CMF) back at 11.55 from Chambery (CMF) as LCC3052.
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Old 9th Dec 2010, 17:18
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KLM is now x4 daily from 27.03.2011

Departures to AMS @ 06:10, 08:55, 14:15 and 17:10

Departures from AMS to BRS @ 08:05, 13:15, 16:20 and 20:55.
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Old 9th Dec 2010, 20:05
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I wonder if this is the good news that was mentioned on the airport's website two or three months ago.

We hope to have further good news for travellers soon as we look to build the South West’s connectivity to key destinations across the world.

If it is the speculation about LH returning might have been wide of the mark.
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Old 9th Dec 2010, 20:57
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Lufthansa's General Manager last week told the Travel Trade Gazette no plans to reinstate BRS-FRA I'm afraid
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Old 10th Dec 2010, 22:35
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Even if the good news isn't as good as some may have hoped, it's still good to see some frequency improvement on the blue chip routes.
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Old 11th Dec 2010, 07:18
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If FRA was as successful as it appears to have been after reading some of the posts on here, why didn't one of the LCCs pick up the route?

Is there any info on whether the BRS to FRA passengers mainly stayed in FRA or were they mostly transiting through on to another destination? This would then possibly account for the reason a LCC didn't swoop in.
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Old 11th Dec 2010, 17:21
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I don't know the ratio of passengers who flew onwards from FRA though LH did report that in the first six months of the route BRS-emanating passengers used all their worldwide connections from FRA.

I know the route was very valuable to many in the West Country who used it for onward travel.

The route lasted for 12 months until the end of April 2009 and carried around 98,000 passengers in that time. LH wouldn't have stopped flying the route on a whim so presumably there were better pickings for its aircraft (actually Eurowings of course) elsewhere.

When it ceased to operate the LH UK manager gave the impression it was being suspended rather than axed because of the recession that was beginning to take a hold.

She said then that she saw no chance of it returning in 2010 which led some to believe it might in 2011 if economic conditions had improved. It appears it's not coming back imminently so one has to now wonder whether it will come back at all.

LH has routes to FRA from LHR and BHX and might consider that they can serve West Country travellers from there.

As for low cost airlines, easyJet doesn't fly to FRA and Ryanair uses Hahn. Flybe does fly to FRA from MAN, BHX, GLA and SOU so conceivably would be the best bet, but then again they might consider that BHX and SOU serve the needs of West Country passengers, especially as Flybe would need to sort out slots at FRA for a BRS route.

I would much prefer LH to return rather than a point-to-point airline as it would be much more useful to me.
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Old 11th Dec 2010, 19:21
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As for Wizz never commencing the Warsaw route, was that because of a falling out with BRS over lack of advertising or was it due to Warsaw charges? I have heard both being cited as reasons but as Wizz have a number of routes from Warsaw, I struggle to believe it is down to costs. Surely BRS couldn't have messed up so quickly after it was announced? I was hoping for more Wizz routes after Warsaw got announced. Does anyone know what happened?
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 11:48
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Gambia Experience BRS-BJL and Cape Verde now no longer bookable on website only LGW MAN & BHX
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Old 12th Dec 2010, 15:34
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I'm surprised (in a not good way) that Marianne was so emphatic that BRS was not in LH's considerations. I can't believe they got *so* badly burned by BRS-FRA that they wouldn't come back again - and if they did get that badly burned, I still think that they managed yield poorly on the route. (OTOH SN seem to be capable of excruciating discomfort on BRS-BRU).

However, one must keep looking for opportunities, maybe like this one offered by Wolfgang Prock-Schauer of BMI.

What is the vision for bmi ?

The vision is for it to be a top quality product, to be embedded in the Lufthansa group and Star Alliance, for it to be contemporary British and covering all the UK regions, so not only London-centric but the whole of the UK, that’s it in short. And keeping in mind our heritage, an international focus, but not forgetting the heritage of BMI – so we call it British Midland International. In this all three of the airlines have a specific role to play. BMI International is out of LHR. Regional serves the regions and more and will serve over water routes to continental Lufthansa hubs, and BMI Baby we want to keep so we have a foothold in the UK low cost carrier market as the UK is predominantly low cost, as part of our complete offering, just as Lufthansa has German Wings.
So maybe it's time to hangup on London/Köln and make some calls to Donnington Hall, and see if we can make 1 BD ERJ into 2 BD ERJs...
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Old 13th Dec 2010, 23:02
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Could something green be coming to BRS??!
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Old 14th Dec 2010, 06:44
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This?

FLIGHTS between Bristol Airport and America are set to be relaunched after an airline stepped into the breach, the Evening Post understands.

But West Coast, Hawaii and Phuket by 787??? To SLF like me that seems an awfully long haul from such a short runway.
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Old 14th Dec 2010, 06:53
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Certainly seems Aer Lingus are to start if its via Ireland.

Wonder if this will affect CWL?
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Old 14th Dec 2010, 08:26
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So This is just going to be the same thing as CWL with pre- clearance at BRS before continuing to NYC?
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Old 14th Dec 2010, 08:54
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So are we looking at a return of BRS-DUB with EI and then change in DUB, or are we talking BRS-JFK with tech stop somewhere like SNN? And if this is so what equipment? BA do LCY-JFK via SNN i believe with A318. Could be one of their A320/A321's? I cant imagine that they would be looking at putting anything bigger in to BRS to operate this flight. I suppose what ever the routing there is always the option of adding extra pax in Ireland should they want to keep it topped up.
What ever it is it will be great news, and would seem a lot more favourable to pax heading west to fuel stop in Ireland than changing somewhere or driving 100 miles in the wrong direction up the M4. Does EI have a tie in with any US carriers for people looking at going elsewhere in the US?

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Old 14th Dec 2010, 09:07
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All EI have to do is change the timing of their Bristol-Shannon flight from pm to am and you get JFK daily with a quick connection and pre US immigration clearance. JFK departs Shannon daily @13.00, Boston (4 wkly) @13.25.

EI's US partners for onward connections is Jet Blue.
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Old 14th Dec 2010, 09:11
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Thanks Bleadon, well should find out pretty soon what the fuss is about i guess.
JFK Daily direct A330 I reckon
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Old 14th Dec 2010, 09:19
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ATR tech stopping in glasgow, faroes, keflavik,sonderstrom, gander, boston and JFK.
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