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BRU
Flights now showing on Worldspan as follows:
BRSBRU-0630 0845 * ER4 0E
BRSBRU-1205 1425 * ER4 0E
BRSBRU-1640 1850 * ER4 0E
BRUBRS-0935 0945 * ER4 0E
BRUBRS-1555 1605 * ER4 0E
BRUBRS-1935 1950 * ER4 0E
Although when you look under a BD flight specifically, it still shows the old SN flights using AR8 etc equipment! Guess they are still sorting it out!
BRSBRU-0630 0845 * ER4 0E
BRSBRU-1205 1425 * ER4 0E
BRSBRU-1640 1850 * ER4 0E
BRUBRS-0935 0945 * ER4 0E
BRUBRS-1555 1605 * ER4 0E
BRUBRS-1935 1950 * ER4 0E
Although when you look under a BD flight specifically, it still shows the old SN flights using AR8 etc equipment! Guess they are still sorting it out!
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Ah yes, it's there now. The SN flights showing correctly, but the BD codes showing the old flights. That'll help confusion no end...
Broadly good (fairly early first flight is good) - although that last flight to BRU at 16:40 and the return at 19:35 is a little too early, IMHO.
Having something go around 17:30 means it's possible to end meetings in the city at 16:00 and get people up to the airport. Similarly, I think that getting to BRU from anywhere in Europe for the 19:35 is going to be tricky. The 21:00ish departure from FRA was great in that respect, as is the late one from AMS.
I'm guessing that they're getting back in so early so that they don't require two crews to be night-stopped in Bristol.
Broadly good (fairly early first flight is good) - although that last flight to BRU at 16:40 and the return at 19:35 is a little too early, IMHO.
Having something go around 17:30 means it's possible to end meetings in the city at 16:00 and get people up to the airport. Similarly, I think that getting to BRU from anywhere in Europe for the 19:35 is going to be tricky. The 21:00ish departure from FRA was great in that respect, as is the late one from AMS.
I'm guessing that they're getting back in so early so that they don't require two crews to be night-stopped in Bristol.
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Oh dear, bad netiqutte. Following myself up.
Just plugged some itineraries in to see how the new timetable to BRU shapes up for travel into Germany, Swiss, Austria and long-haul.
Not brilliant, so far. The connections outbound to MUC, FRA, VIE, ZRH, INN are underwhelming at BRU. There's often a 2-3 hour layover in BRU before the next onward leg. Slightly more concerning is that to get to Asia bound flights out of FRA/MUC (if you were so minded), it's a tight schedule if you take the 12:05 ex-BRS, because there's a couple of hours layover in BRU, meaning you don't get to FRA/MUC until gone 19:30.
Just plugged some itineraries in to see how the new timetable to BRU shapes up for travel into Germany, Swiss, Austria and long-haul.
Not brilliant, so far. The connections outbound to MUC, FRA, VIE, ZRH, INN are underwhelming at BRU. There's often a 2-3 hour layover in BRU before the next onward leg. Slightly more concerning is that to get to Asia bound flights out of FRA/MUC (if you were so minded), it's a tight schedule if you take the 12:05 ex-BRS, because there's a couple of hours layover in BRU, meaning you don't get to FRA/MUC until gone 19:30.
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One thing I have found though from LBA is that the flights with BMI to BRU are incredibly expensive- I've paid £600 for a rtn a few times- Brussels Airlines from BRS has always been more like half that... I really hope we don't go the way of LBA in that respect!!
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Just got a press release that the rumour of an extra daily BRS-BRU is now true it starts on the 10th of Jan 2010, this also this comes on the back of Thompson operating Fly Cruises Bristol to Barbados....
And to make it three pieces of good news (certainly from my point of view) Airside Ops are going to recruit a new member of staff in the near future
And to make it three pieces of good news (certainly from my point of view) Airside Ops are going to recruit a new member of staff in the near future
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Bristol City Council
The anti BRS-expansion city council leader confirmed to the Bristol Evening Post today that she will be flying to the climate change conference in Copenhagen with two colleagues early next week - from Bristol Airport. No details given as to which hub will be used.
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To add a bit more to Ranger's post, the BRS website note includes the fact that the bmi regional crew will be based at BRS. I read elsewhere in PPRuNe that similar changes have been made to the Newcastle-Brussels route.
More New Routes?
The minutes of the last consultative committee meeting (21 October) contain a statement from CEO Robert Sinclair that, 'a number of new destinations were likely to be announced in the next few weeks'. Since then the Flybe IoM and Ryanair Treviso and Gdansk (back once again!) routes have been announced.
However, the CEO specifically mentioned new destinations in Turkey and Greece. The main Turkish holiday airports are already covered in summer charter mode, except Izmir which didn't return after summer 2008.
A number of Greek and Greek Island charter routes have disappeared in recent years, such as Volos, Santorini and Chania. Perhaps one or two of those might come back. Skiathos is back for next summer but that was announced some months ago.
Of course it could be a play on words with destinations meaning resorts not previously offered from existing airports.
The anti BRS-expansion city council leader confirmed to the Bristol Evening Post today that she will be flying to the climate change conference in Copenhagen with two colleagues early next week - from Bristol Airport. No details given as to which hub will be used.
Brussels Airlines
To add a bit more to Ranger's post, the BRS website note includes the fact that the bmi regional crew will be based at BRS. I read elsewhere in PPRuNe that similar changes have been made to the Newcastle-Brussels route.
More New Routes?
The minutes of the last consultative committee meeting (21 October) contain a statement from CEO Robert Sinclair that, 'a number of new destinations were likely to be announced in the next few weeks'. Since then the Flybe IoM and Ryanair Treviso and Gdansk (back once again!) routes have been announced.
However, the CEO specifically mentioned new destinations in Turkey and Greece. The main Turkish holiday airports are already covered in summer charter mode, except Izmir which didn't return after summer 2008.
A number of Greek and Greek Island charter routes have disappeared in recent years, such as Volos, Santorini and Chania. Perhaps one or two of those might come back. Skiathos is back for next summer but that was announced some months ago.
Of course it could be a play on words with destinations meaning resorts not previously offered from existing airports.
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Recession over at BRS?
Things definatly looking up for BRS now, as reported in the last few weeks....
Ryanair - 5th aircraft with 5 new routes added
Easyjet - A320 added to the base and 2 new mid haul routes
Flybe - 1 new route added
Star Alliance - Based aircraft and increased frequency to BRU
TOM - Extra long haul BGI cruise flights
Also walkway seems to be on schedule and a newly refurbished departure lounge with new walk through duty free and extra level added.
Add in the based Viking Airlines from May.
And latest rumours (can anyone confirm?) extra MON charters for summer, could these be what MV mentioned? Or could the greece/turkey extra flights rumoured be one of the BRS loco's looking at ATH or IST, perfect for EZY's A320 or FR's 737NG??
Also noticed BMI website is showing BRS-FRA as a direct flight, but nothing in the time tables, could FRA be returning?
And to top it all .........
Comedian welcomes passengers to Bristol Airport
01.12.09
Comedian Justin Lee Collins will be the first voice greeting incoming passengers travelling through Bristol Airport, after he was persuaded to be the voice of a talking cone stationed at passport control in the international arrivals area.
The cone plays a very short message in which Justin welcomes passengers to Bristol and asks them to ‘mind the stairs’ in front of them. Jacqui Mills, public relations manager at Bristol Airport, said: ‘Justin is a great ambassador for Bristol and the region. We are delighted that visitors will be welcomed by his voice when they arrive at our airport.’
Ryanair - 5th aircraft with 5 new routes added
Easyjet - A320 added to the base and 2 new mid haul routes
Flybe - 1 new route added
Star Alliance - Based aircraft and increased frequency to BRU
TOM - Extra long haul BGI cruise flights
Also walkway seems to be on schedule and a newly refurbished departure lounge with new walk through duty free and extra level added.
Add in the based Viking Airlines from May.
And latest rumours (can anyone confirm?) extra MON charters for summer, could these be what MV mentioned? Or could the greece/turkey extra flights rumoured be one of the BRS loco's looking at ATH or IST, perfect for EZY's A320 or FR's 737NG??
Also noticed BMI website is showing BRS-FRA as a direct flight, but nothing in the time tables, could FRA be returning?
And to top it all .........
Comedian welcomes passengers to Bristol Airport
01.12.09
Comedian Justin Lee Collins will be the first voice greeting incoming passengers travelling through Bristol Airport, after he was persuaded to be the voice of a talking cone stationed at passport control in the international arrivals area.
The cone plays a very short message in which Justin welcomes passengers to Bristol and asks them to ‘mind the stairs’ in front of them. Jacqui Mills, public relations manager at Bristol Airport, said: ‘Justin is a great ambassador for Bristol and the region. We are delighted that visitors will be welcomed by his voice when they arrive at our airport.’
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Goody, goody, goody, more planes, hurrah!
The JLC thing will be funny but only if they let him do it without too much interference.
Ranger 1 - does that mean you'll be doing even less work???
The JLC thing will be funny but only if they let him do it without too much interference.
Ranger 1 - does that mean you'll be doing even less work???
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things are looking up, the ceo was being interviewed a few weeks ago and he said then 2010 was looking like it was going to be a record year. Now lets hope the development goes through, but this is Bristol City Council and they are too busy fighting amongst themselves to bring us out of the stone age !!
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CJ - Its North Somerset council, but same still applies really mate, lets hope everything gets go ahead,
Standard - JLC already on the cone mate, he did whilst flying out last week i believe.
Have heard a rumour that the 'International' is going to be dropped from the airports title soon.
Standard - JLC already on the cone mate, he did whilst flying out last week i believe.
Have heard a rumour that the 'International' is going to be dropped from the airports title soon.
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WHATABENCH Yes i know it's N Som, what i was getting at was a couple of months ago Bristol City Council were all in favour of the developement, now with the world cup bid to win in Bristol they seem hell bent on ruining not only the world cup bid, but any improvement to the local infrastructure that may back up that bid. As for N Som we dont need a bigger airport as everyone will be flocking to Weston for their holidays due to all the fantastic ameneties they have secured over the past few years, Well what other seaside town has got a carrot in it's center, oh and the huge coloured mast just off the M5!!, together with all the charity and pound shops what more do we need. I have to aggree with their efforts to stop the developement and cant wait for the sunshine, then its off to Weston for some great days out.
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Bristol City FC wants to build the stadium but it's Bristol City Council that is pushing for a World Cup host city place assuming England wins the nomination next year. The event won't be until 2018 or 2022 anyway.
Obviously without a new stadium there is no chance of a World Cup hosting and we shall know within a few days whether Bristol has been chosen.
The lack of joined-up thinking results in the city council pushing the airport as a plus point for World Cup host status but then says it doesn't want the airport expanded.
North Somerset only became involved because a 50-metre long access road to the proposed stadium lies in its territory.
I live within the city boundary and I wrote to Barbara Janke, Bristol City Council Leader (the very one who is flying to the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen from an airport she wants emasculated), condemning her council's stand over airport expansion.
She did reply and part of her letter read:
The council has been in consultation with the airport owners for some time in regard to a variety of issues relating to expansion...................these issues have either not been addressed in full or not addressed at all.
There is a balance to be drawn between the economic success of the city and the well being of people living within this area, particularly with regard to transport and the long term lack of investment in a sustainable public transport infrastructure in this area.
The people who might be adversely affected by increased road traffic to the airport live near the airport or in neighbouring villages. They don't live in Bristol and are nothing to do with Barbara Janke.
Furthermore, the city council has told the football authorities that the city's transport infrastructure would be able to cope with tens of thousands of overseas visitors for World Cup matches in 2018 yet here is the leader saying the infrastructure is not good enough for the airport to increase its passenger numbers by no more than 60% within the same time scale.
Greater Bristol's main problem re most things is that separate parts of the physical city are run by four local authorities each anxious to ensure the biggest (Bristol City Council) does not enjoy advantages at their expense, and this particularly applies to the North Somerset councillors.
That's why there is always petty, childish bickering between them. Ironically, one of the few things at least three of the local authorities (Bristol, North Somerset and B&NES) agree on is that they oppose airport expansion.
North Somerset are the decision makers on the airport expansion and if recent history is a guide (airport walkway GPD application and the football ground access road) the councillors are likely to vote on emotion rather than on strict planning law interpretation, even when this goes against the advice of their own professional planning officers. Fortunately, they were made to recognise their original walkway decision was perverse and had no option but to reverse it.
Obviously without a new stadium there is no chance of a World Cup hosting and we shall know within a few days whether Bristol has been chosen.
The lack of joined-up thinking results in the city council pushing the airport as a plus point for World Cup host status but then says it doesn't want the airport expanded.
North Somerset only became involved because a 50-metre long access road to the proposed stadium lies in its territory.
I live within the city boundary and I wrote to Barbara Janke, Bristol City Council Leader (the very one who is flying to the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen from an airport she wants emasculated), condemning her council's stand over airport expansion.
She did reply and part of her letter read:
The council has been in consultation with the airport owners for some time in regard to a variety of issues relating to expansion...................these issues have either not been addressed in full or not addressed at all.
There is a balance to be drawn between the economic success of the city and the well being of people living within this area, particularly with regard to transport and the long term lack of investment in a sustainable public transport infrastructure in this area.
The people who might be adversely affected by increased road traffic to the airport live near the airport or in neighbouring villages. They don't live in Bristol and are nothing to do with Barbara Janke.
Furthermore, the city council has told the football authorities that the city's transport infrastructure would be able to cope with tens of thousands of overseas visitors for World Cup matches in 2018 yet here is the leader saying the infrastructure is not good enough for the airport to increase its passenger numbers by no more than 60% within the same time scale.
Greater Bristol's main problem re most things is that separate parts of the physical city are run by four local authorities each anxious to ensure the biggest (Bristol City Council) does not enjoy advantages at their expense, and this particularly applies to the North Somerset councillors.
That's why there is always petty, childish bickering between them. Ironically, one of the few things at least three of the local authorities (Bristol, North Somerset and B&NES) agree on is that they oppose airport expansion.
North Somerset are the decision makers on the airport expansion and if recent history is a guide (airport walkway GPD application and the football ground access road) the councillors are likely to vote on emotion rather than on strict planning law interpretation, even when this goes against the advice of their own professional planning officers. Fortunately, they were made to recognise their original walkway decision was perverse and had no option but to reverse it.
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Ah right CJ, apologies.
Photos of walkway so far if anyone intrested.........
Bristol International Airport - Western Walkway
Photos of walkway so far if anyone intrested.........
Bristol International Airport - Western Walkway
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November Pax down 4.8%
Source: CAA
November Pax: 338389 down 4.8%
I am not sure what was expected and I know the two extra
based Ryanair are not always active but I thought it might be
a little less than this.
Over to you MV as I am sure you will be able to give a more
detailed analysis of this figure.
Pete
November Pax: 338389 down 4.8%
I am not sure what was expected and I know the two extra
based Ryanair are not always active but I thought it might be
a little less than this.
Over to you MV as I am sure you will be able to give a more
detailed analysis of this figure.
Pete
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November Passenger Figures
Hello Pete,
Atms were down 7.3% which is pretty much the reason.
easyJet have cut some routes from last winter such as Lisbon, Valenicia and Venice (this one did run as advertised for the first two weeks of the month but has now gone) and reduced frequencies on most others, even from last winter, with up to eight aircraft parked up at certain times of some days.
As you suggest, Ryanair's extra two aircraft from last winter are not all used all of the time.
Summer 2010
I posted a week or two ago that Ryanair's timetable for next summer showed there was a requirement for seven based aircraft at BRS on some days of each week and that the booking engine was offering bookings on that timetable.
I had a look this evening and discovered that five routes previously advertised (Pau, Perpignan, Toulon, Montpellier and Cagliari) have now gone from the web timetable when it is interrogated and are no longer available in the booking engine even though they still appear in the drop-down list in both.
Very unfortunate for anyone who booked flights to those places if they really have been axed.
The timetable for next summer still needs amendment if five based aircraft are to suffice.
A check of easyJet's schedule for summer 2010 suggests a reduction from the twelve based aircraft seen in the peak summer seasons of 2008 and 2009 to ten in peak summer 2010 and that includes the new based A 320.
Western Walkway
Many thanks for that link, WATABENCH - interesting pictures. I saw it from afar recently as I passed along the A38.
The blurb on the airport website says it will be 450 metres long. How soon before somebody moans that they ought to be taken a distance like that by bus?
Hello Pete,
Atms were down 7.3% which is pretty much the reason.
easyJet have cut some routes from last winter such as Lisbon, Valenicia and Venice (this one did run as advertised for the first two weeks of the month but has now gone) and reduced frequencies on most others, even from last winter, with up to eight aircraft parked up at certain times of some days.
As you suggest, Ryanair's extra two aircraft from last winter are not all used all of the time.
Summer 2010
I posted a week or two ago that Ryanair's timetable for next summer showed there was a requirement for seven based aircraft at BRS on some days of each week and that the booking engine was offering bookings on that timetable.
I had a look this evening and discovered that five routes previously advertised (Pau, Perpignan, Toulon, Montpellier and Cagliari) have now gone from the web timetable when it is interrogated and are no longer available in the booking engine even though they still appear in the drop-down list in both.
Very unfortunate for anyone who booked flights to those places if they really have been axed.
The timetable for next summer still needs amendment if five based aircraft are to suffice.
A check of easyJet's schedule for summer 2010 suggests a reduction from the twelve based aircraft seen in the peak summer seasons of 2008 and 2009 to ten in peak summer 2010 and that includes the new based A 320.
Western Walkway
Many thanks for that link, WATABENCH - interesting pictures. I saw it from afar recently as I passed along the A38.
The blurb on the airport website says it will be 450 metres long. How soon before somebody moans that they ought to be taken a distance like that by bus?
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Well Bristol and Plymouth will be hosting world cup games, should England win the bid, and Ashton Vale get built... Good news for EGGD, and adds more weight to the expansion proposal
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Monarch offering charters from BRS to PMI, CFU and HER according to their website for summer 2010.
Also found this for those intrested in the expansion....
Bristol Airport expansion plan changes
17.12.09
Bristol Airport has made changes to its £150 million expansion plans after a feedback from a pubic consultation, including limiting its proposed hike in the number of night flights, originally due to rise to around 12 a night under the plans, to be capped at 10 per night. There are currently seven flights per night on average.
The airport is offering to spend £10 million on a series of changes to its expansion plans, many involving transport links, following the public consultation. Changes include a new flyer bus service from Weston and increased funding for the £48 million Bus Rapid Transit scheme and the £47 million South Bristol Link road.
It will also delay development of a new long stay car park green belt land until passenger numbers have grown enough to merit the increase in spaces and spend £100,000 to make Weston's 121 bus service – which currently runs every two hours from Weston to Bristol city centre via the airport – hourly.
The changes follow public consultation on the expansion scheme, which includes multi-storey car parks, a larger terminal and new administration building. Three weeks of consultation on the amendments has now begun before North Somerset Council decides on the whole application on February 10.
Also found this for those intrested in the expansion....
Bristol Airport expansion plan changes
17.12.09
Bristol Airport has made changes to its £150 million expansion plans after a feedback from a pubic consultation, including limiting its proposed hike in the number of night flights, originally due to rise to around 12 a night under the plans, to be capped at 10 per night. There are currently seven flights per night on average.
The airport is offering to spend £10 million on a series of changes to its expansion plans, many involving transport links, following the public consultation. Changes include a new flyer bus service from Weston and increased funding for the £48 million Bus Rapid Transit scheme and the £47 million South Bristol Link road.
It will also delay development of a new long stay car park green belt land until passenger numbers have grown enough to merit the increase in spaces and spend £100,000 to make Weston's 121 bus service – which currently runs every two hours from Weston to Bristol city centre via the airport – hourly.
The changes follow public consultation on the expansion scheme, which includes multi-storey car parks, a larger terminal and new administration building. Three weeks of consultation on the amendments has now begun before North Somerset Council decides on the whole application on February 10.