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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 07:24
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 09:36
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ncleflights why do you think we should be getting concerned that EZY have not yet released flights for winter and that something bad is happening? With an airline like the size of EZY, they cannot release a whole seasons flights for their whole network at once, as more than likely the systems would be overloaded. Lets just be patient, and you never know we may see something new from them, plus remember they are rumoured to be totally rearranging their slots for the winter!

I am inclined to believe that Jet2 could well be looking at places like SSH and PFO to fill the gaps in their 757 NCL programme. The routes would certainly be viable, given that XL/FJE will no longer operate to them. Just one thing though, I don't want to see NCL develop a route network based solely on loco operators. Its nice at the moment where we have a good mix of full service scheduled, together with traditional charter and low cost.
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 09:39
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It says in this months easyjet inflight that all flights will be on sale soon.
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 10:17
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I'll say it again, theres nothing going on with easyjet, its a highly complicated process secheduling the entire airline network, it will be out soon.
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 11:06
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PSA has never been year round for any Jet2 base.
MJV is a wierd one, the loads in winter are still good... not full but always over 100, so very suprised its dropped untill Feb. But the AGP will be going throughout the winter.
Maybe the Wed and Sun would be kept for the possible EWR/JFK but when we heard the rumours it was for a Thu/Fri to Sun/Mon not for Wed and Sun.
I cant see it happening or it would be on sale now... and because of all the probs with the 757 fleet I think certification for ETOPs have been pushed back.
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 12:51
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Unfortunately Jet2 have been suffering from problems with the 757 fleet, but it happens to all airlines. The lauch of such a route, like NYC is a very complicated process, particularly when a/c need ETOPS approval. I am still not convinced that such a loco route would work from NCL, if it did start then hope it wouldn't go down the same route as GSM and their longhaul programme.

NCL still holding out for CO!
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 16:25
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I think it would be a big mistake to start EWR as a lo-cost operation. It would be for point to point traffic only whereas what is needed is a service offering connections throughout the US (e.g. CO).

With Emirates looking like they could make a success of the new Dubai route it would bring NCL to the attention of the big full service airlines and as a previous contributor pointed out, it is important to keep NCL as a mixed airline operation. Otherwise we run the risk of losing everything if the lo-cost bubble should ever burst.
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 16:40
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I think it would be a big mistake to start EWR as a lo-cost operation. It would be for point to point traffic only whereas what is needed is a service offering connections throughout the US (e.g. CO).
I think you will find this subject has been 'flogged to death' not long since on this thread, & until something 'kicks off' from another direction, then please lets give it a rest !
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Old 24th Jul 2007, 17:20
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Easyjet winter 07/08

I have seen the schedules!! not bookable yet though.

Looks like only 5 a/c for the winter!

CIA dropped NCE dropped for winter and GVA is back for winter less Domestic rotations and no new routes.
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Old 24th Jul 2007, 17:20
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I have heard that ONE Flyjet 757 will be leaving the fleet after October which will be G-FJEA leaving Newcastle with ZERO aircraft after looking on the XL website all flights change from FJE to XLA nearing the end of October where as at Manchester they remain FJE.
G-FJEB will most probably operate Ad-hoc work through the winter with Manchester crew until this leaves in February.
Next summer season all Newcastle FJE flights are now XLA - XL and KM - Air Malta.
At Manchester all flight codes remain XLATBA.
This looks like the end for Flyjet Newcastle and a uncertain future for Manchester.
Hopefully Flyjet will release some more info soon. After the move of offices to Manchester is this a good move for the company or false promises again.
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Old 24th Jul 2007, 17:27
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Easyjet Winter 07/08

Also forgot to mention that CDG is back to once daily. Regarding domestic flights on Mon-Fri STN is 4xdaily BRS 3xdaily and BFS 3xdaily no major changes in timings or anything.
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Old 24th Jul 2007, 20:21
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Easyjet winter 08

Quote - "Also forgot to mention that CDG is back to once daily. Regarding domestic flights on Mon-Fri STN is 4xdaily BRS 3xdaily and BFS 3xdaily no major changes in timings or anything" -

not good especially if CIA has gone as I doubt it will return for S08, remember that it was only last winter that Berlin went and never came back for the Summer. CDG also only went to twice daily last winter so again to drop it back to once daily after only a year is not good news.
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Old 25th Jul 2007, 08:26
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ouch! wasn't expecting that! bit of a blow to the system them!

seems alot will be different this time next year at NCL!
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Old 25th Jul 2007, 17:23
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easyJet winter flights are now on sale
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Old 25th Jul 2007, 17:51
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Easyjet Winter

now on sale ---- 5 aircraft only ---- Stansted down to 3x daily
Not surprised that Aircraft no 7 has gone. I understand it was a tactical aircraft brought in for the summer to boost frequency etc on routes introduced by others to compete with Easyjet.
Bit surprised by removal of a/c no 6, However last winter with 6 a/c the utilisation was quite low.
I understand the load factors on the Bristol 4x daily route have been in the mid sixties since it was increased to 4x daily, so the removal of one rotation should increase this assuming the same number of people use it.
The removal of one rotation from the 5x daily Stansted would have been understandable for the same reasons as Bristol. But the removal of Two rotations will result in a shortage of seats on a route that is seeing a significant increase in pax nos.
The european routes seem about the same as last winter except for Rome, Krakow seems to have increased, but Geneva does not start until late Dec.
Seems that Easyjet has lost interest in NCL. Some new routes need to be introduced to stop the stagnation. There are routes to city break destinations such as Lisbon, Madrid and Venice, ski routes and Polish routes that could all be succesfull. Now that Rome, Berlin and Budapest have gone the city break destinations are in short supply.
Reading about all the new routes being introduced elsewhere I think NCL is being left way behind.
On the positive side however I understand the bookings for Dubai are very healthy.
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Old 25th Jul 2007, 20:02
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Seems that Easyjet has lost interest in NCL
It's certainly starting to look that way!
 
Old 25th Jul 2007, 20:14
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Perhaps Jet2 may look at filling some of the gaps left by EZY. Perhaps BUD,SXF,FCO at maybe 4/5 x weekly each or so?
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Old 25th Jul 2007, 20:24
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Yes I agree, perhaps it was over ambitious increasing it to 4x daily.
However the reduction in Stansted seems a bit much.
I dont think in general Easyjet have had a good summer from NCL what with yet more competition on some of their major routes from Jet2, not to mention Thomsonfly and all the other charters.
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Old 25th Jul 2007, 21:28
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Yes bad news for NCL, a few folks have mentioned and I tend to agree that EZY are loosing interest in NCL just look at all the new routes they have introduced from elsewhere lately. Looks like NCL base will go the same way as East Midlands and simply stagnate. I doubt however we will get Ryanair to come along as they did at East Midlands when EZY lost interest.

Not sure anyone can pick up the routes, I know Jet2 were looking at Berlin and Budapest when EZY pulled out but they don't have the aircraft capacity. One things certain though the future is no longer Orange as far as NCL is concerned.

One good thing we won't all be complainig about over streched ramps next year!!
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Old 25th Jul 2007, 23:18
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An increased presence of EZY at EDI doesn't help either
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