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Old 21st Jul 2009, 11:34
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What goes around comes around
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 11:49
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whats more worrying is that they are in talks about the possibility of passengers standing!
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 11:56
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whats more worrying is that they are in talks about the possibility of passengers standing!
What worries me more is that you actually believe this
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 11:59
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The worlds favourite airline? By number of passengers, perhaps - but how many of those have a choice?
Everybody has a choice.

UK media hate Ryanair because Journos don't get extra special treatment like BA used to dish out and they have brought cheap air travel to the masses which Journo look down on.

Its the same disdain that the media had for Holiday flights in the 70's and 80's.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:05
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I believe there were no talks regarding passengers standing and that it was entirely a ruse to gain free add space by the Ryanair team.
But this latest news is disturbing low passenger loads in the British isles combined with lowering yields across the network and the Fr machine is hurling money out the window faster than any had expected. New aircraft coming all the time and a business model based on continued expansion. Network contraction and an increasingly desperate management team. Its been a nice ride but I think I'll get out now before the inevitable fire sale. Seeya.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:12
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You know, the more I read Ryanair press releases the more irritated I get -- at Ryanair. The worlds favourite airline?
Can any of you computer wizzkids please help me. Every time I log onto the world's favourite airline's website I can only seem to be able to choose destinations around Europe and a small handful in northern Africa. You really would think that if world's favourite airline were kind enough to put a handful of destinations from another continent in that they would finish the job and put them all in. Perhaps it's just my computer. I'ts really starting to get me down. Should I be looking at bringing it back to the shop? I'm sure it's still under warranty.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:15
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I've considered using Ryanair a few times in the winter and always after going through the booking process I'm amazed at how expensive it is. I then go to the BA website and book a cheaper service.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:32
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Ryanair's press release states that they are reducing the Stansted compliment to 24 aircraft for the winter - so a reduction of a further four aircraft over last winter.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:44
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AndyH - You are correct in that there will be 4 less based aircraft compared to last winter. What I am saying though is that capacity wise it is equivilent to last year's 28 based aircraft as there will be more rotations using foreign-based aircraft.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:56
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Thread copied over to Pax and SLF for the passenger comments
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:56
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1800ed,

My last two, and next one, flights to Bratislava cost £17, £8.40 and £20 respectively.These were the total cost of the return flights including all taxes and charges. Can't see those sort of prices on BA.

I have flown to various places in Europe with Ryanair and have had great, polite service from all their staff, with never any problems.

I do accept that they have quite a few add-on costs, but I have read their rules and conditions, and know what to expect for my money. They haven't let me down yet - but I suppose there's still time.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 13:00
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I've considered using Ryanair a few times in the winter and always after going through the booking process I'm amazed at how expensive it is. I then go to the BA website and book a cheaper service.
Right. Given the fact that BA is effectively closing most of its services apart from at LHR then BA is no longer an option for the majority of people in the UK.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 13:03
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Continental Airlines has said that it is to cut 1,700 jobs amid a slump in revenue and passenger numbers.

The airline is also increasing its fees for checking in bags and for making reservations by telephone.

The Slump is Global, who is next to go "Bust".

Looks like just the tip of the Global Iceberg.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 13:11
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Ryanair cutting flights at Stansted

Timesonline is quoting Ryanair as saying that no Flight or Cabin crew will be lost: they are all being transferred to other airports. Any theories which one? Or do we take it with a block rather than a pinch of salt?
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 13:39
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For a certain prolific poster:

Put whatever spin you like on it. The real reasons are inescapable

Over capacity,falling demand and yields
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 14:14
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Everybody has a choice.
Not when the alternatives have been driven off the route (or indeed the city pairing) that you want to fly.

UK media hate
I am not and never have been media. I'm frequent SLF that is happy to pay a little bit more for a quality service. I had the privilege of flying WestJet a few weeks ago on an internal flight in Canada; it'd be a real treat if an equivalent appeared in my local market.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 14:23
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BBC News story (Red button) shows an increase of just four aircraft grounded/redeployed compared with last Winter. Usual media hype left me with a rather tight sphincter for a few minutes there!

The Ryanair guys month of paid leave, and Brookfield guys month of unpaid leave over the Winter months' will probably (hopefully!) take up most of the slack.

WTSS
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 14:31
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No-doubt all the Ryanair bashers will rejoice in the news
if it is a true reduction.

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Old 21st Jul 2009, 15:11
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This is the usual Ryanair grandstanding - blaming the BAA, Stansted the UK Government and even having a pop at Dublin in their press release. Yes the tax does hurt demand but its the same for all airlines and as ryanair says lowest cost wins so if you add 10GBP to each ticket Ryanair should still be the cheapest and if the cheapest wins then there should be no issue for Ryanair. I know that as prices rise demand will fall etc

Before when they pulled out of airports / reduced capacity they used to say...due to management incompetence at airport X we have moved 3 planes etc top to airport Y. Now the planes are just grounded showing that the true reason is no demand anywhere. I have heard them go on and on about governments in Greece/Spain/Holland/Belgium dropping taxes or lowering airport fees and how Ireland and the UK should follow. Well how come Ryanair havnt opened a huge base in any of these countries recently? No Demand - simple explanation.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 15:18
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I note from that article that O'Learey has told the journo that he is in talks with the CAA to get permission for standing passengers, like in a bus. I never know what to believe from the man....
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