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Old 9th Sep 2008, 17:35
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FR delay the opening of Edinburgh base blaming... Boeing
Tuesday, 9 September 2008

Ryanair said it had moved the start date for its new routes from September 23 to November 5 because Boeing was unable to deliver the two new planes Ryanair had bought to operate them (due to strike started last Saturday in Seattle).

Deputy chief executive Michael Cawley said passengers who had already booked for the six-week period would be refunded over the next seven days.
Sales not good enough, huh?
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 17:47
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I thought they were parking planes!
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 17:58
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They have 20 too much but have to wait for 2 new Isn't it ironic
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Exactly they are grounding aircraft in STN and DUB so why do they need to worry about boeing not delivering aircraft?
Surely it is just an excuse to get money/ aircraft out of boeing and are covering up they are having financial difficulties.
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 19:59
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Fr Edi

Ryanairs base is due to open in 2 weeks but they arent grounding any aircraft until the end of October, it could be true.
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 23:17
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Let's hope it goes horrible wrong for Ryanair - I'm sure not many within the industry will shed a tear - and as for Nasty Oleary, god will judge him!
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 23:49
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Originally Posted by N14HK
Let's hope it goes horrible wrong for Ryanair - I'm sure not many within the industry will shed a tear - and as for Nasty Oleary, god will judge him!
So, you hope for thousands of people to lose their jobs plus thousands more airport workers that would be similarly affected? Is that what YOUR GOD asks you to pray for?
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 23:56
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If its written in the contract of financial penalties if aircraft are not delivered as per the schedule then why not claim? You don't take out travel insurance, subsequently break your camera and return home not to ask.
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 07:57
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Obviously sales not good enough to lease in two aircraft to operate for 6 weeks...

although perhaps the exposure they get from critisising Boeing for this is worth more to them. they probably get some kind of PR benefit and compensation from Boeing which could be sizeable
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 08:18
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EDI base delay

Why all the fuss, routes get pushed back all the time because of aircraft delivery delays.. Look at Emirates and Etihad as recent examples.

If the aircraft isn't available the flights won't operate. Simple. Leasing in gets messy look at Flybe with the E195 delays, all sorts of different types brought in, hardly efficient but OK if someone else is picking up the bill (Embraer in this case I'm sure)

FR always said that aircraft capacity would be available in winter and lo, its winter when the flights start! No surprise there.

FR don't yet know when they will get the new aircraft because of the unresolved (still I think) IAM strike.

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Old 10th Sep 2008, 09:22
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Some news from Latvia

Ryanair has not given up the idea that it could develop a base at the Riga International Airport, David O’Brian Operations Director of Ryanair, said at the European Airport Development Conference yesterday.

In the next four to five years' time the airline could place five of its airplanes at the Riga Airport, but for this major investments are still needed.
Ryanair expects Riga Airport to be cooperative similarly as it was in 2004 when the airport lowered its costs. Ryanair say that they constantly manage to cut down on their costs and that they see no reason why the airport could not do the same.
Last winter MOL said that development of a new base is a matter of cooperation with and the development of the airport. O'Leary noted that the airport should be developing at such a pace that it is able to meet Ryanair requirements on passenger turnover, and make it possible for the airline to launch its base here. According to him, opening a new hub at Riga Airport could prompt the airport's annual passenger turnover to 2.5-3 million, and the number of flights by about 20,000.
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Ryanair postpones introductory flights from Edinburgh

Apparently, a strike at Boeing means that aircraft are not available:- BBC NEWS | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | Ryanair cancels Edinburgh flights
Low-cost airline Ryanair has been forced to cancel flights from its new Edinburgh base for the next six weeks because of strike action at Boeing.
Ryanair said the strike meant US aircraft manufacturers Boeing was unable to deliver two 737 planes it purchased to operate on the new routes.
Ryanair said it now hoped to start flying from Edinburgh on 5 November.
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 13:53
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There is a Ryanair thread.
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 14:40
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FR delay the opening of Edinburgh base blaming... Boeing
According to the FR website, not all routes are affected. I was able to get flights from and to Hahn in October.
Ryanair routes affected by the postponement are:

FORCED CANCELATIONS UNTIL 5th NOVEMBER
FROM TO
Edinburgh Lodz
Malaga
Bournemouth
Palma
Krakow
Poznan
Bratislava
Schonefeld
Billund
Skavsta
Wroclaw
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If MOL needs 738s didn't Futura just park some?

Too many creature comforts in them probably
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 16:29
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FR flights from HHN to EDI are operated by a HHN based aircraft!

New start dates for EDI:

5th Nov: Billund, Bournemouth, Bratislava, Stockholm, Poznan, Berlin
6th November: Malaga, Wroclaw
8th November: Lodz
18th December: Krakow
23th December: Palma de Mallorca
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Oil fell on Wednesday as slowing demand outweighed an unexpected OPEC crude production cut and a steep drop in U.S. inventories.

U.S. crude traded down $1.41 at $101.85 a barrel by 1537 GMT, after hitting fresh five-month lows. London Brent crude fell $1.67 to $98.67 after falling below $100 on Tuesday for the first time since April.
Right time to hedge for 2009 possibly?
.......
Happy being NOT responsible myself, though
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 19:26
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N14HKLet's hope it goes horrible wrong for Ryanair - I'm sure not many within the industry will shed a tear - and as for Nasty Oleary, god will judge him!
Oh dear, someone REALLY hates FR!
Thank you for not carrying if i lose my job Sir. I shall do the same when i will be given the opportunity to laugh at YOUR misfortune...

I suggest you get off your high horse and have a bit of consideration for other people's jobs within FR. You might hate MOL however it's not the girl's at the back fault.

Think twice before you act dears


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Old 11th Sep 2008, 07:06
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Lourdes... again!

An Aito operator is threatening to report Ryanair to competition authorities over plans to start flights to Lourdes in December.

John Tangney, director of Tangney Tours, claimed the no-frills carrier’s plans will mean fewer disabled people will be able to visit the shrine, famed for its healing powers.

He wants the Competition Commission to investigate the deal Ryanair has signed with Lourdes airport which he said makes it impossible for his charter-based operation to compete.

Tangney fears he will lose able-bodied customers to Ryanair because he will not be able to compete on price.

He has to pay for full service operations and extra airport help to cater for up to 20 wheelchair passengers per flight.

He said that could force him to cancel 20 of his 120 flights a year – meaning fewer seats would be available for disabled passengers. Ryanair has a limit of four wheelchair users per flight
Tangney claimed Ryanair had negotiated a 75%, or £1,500, per flight discount on airport charges that would allow it to undercut his fares.

Quoted from: ttglive.com

Anyway, one has to expect some real problems with passengers who "don't understand" that Lourdes is a "ski destination" and will be coming on wheelchairs, certainly more than four per flight...
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 18:16
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EDI routes were really strong actually. Very good loads and yields I believe. It is a case of there is no slack in the current sched. for spare a/c hanging about....hence the mega delays currently being seen across the network on certain days.

RYR are a low cost airline....they might have leased last year, but going into winter when your looking at just breaking even, its not economically sound to spend $$ on leasing. Its a shame for passengers, and all the staff involved....but thats the effect strikes have on any company.
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