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Old 16th Jul 2008, 19:13
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Well done Ryanair .
STN to TFS, FUE and IBZ, Win, Win, Win .
Long time in coming but all will be well used.
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Old 16th Jul 2008, 20:02
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Ryanair to ground 16 737's at STN for Winter

It seems that Fr will announce grounding of around 16 aircraft at STN this winter due to worsening market conditions. What are the real reasons?

Conditions definately tough

Send messagfe to BAA re charging structure

Get a few heavy checks done?

Crews already reached max hours by Dec

Traditional graveyard Dec-Feb

Comments please....
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Old 16th Jul 2008, 20:10
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my comment is : Old news!
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Old 16th Jul 2008, 20:12
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Why old news? sure they've done this before but the scale is greater-around 40% of based fleet at STN.

My bet is that it wont be an out and out grounding but some slack time according to day of week and some will be added to other bases...like the one near to you perhaps?
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 06:31
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Gerona - Turin
That used to be operated by was cut. So good if it reappears.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 07:21
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...i thought the grounding was a pre cursor to redeploying the aircraft to the new Manchester base where apparently charges are much cheaper than Stansted ?
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 08:28
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Bermuda Triangle, it is far more likely that the airline you work for, assuming you do, rather than RYR, is no longer with us in two years time. RYR do not 'rely' on any subsidies but strive, as all good businesses do, to extract the most favorable rates from their suppliers, in this case, the airports.
The grounded aircraft will not be sitting idle for the winter, they will be generating a very tidy sum when leased to the Asian carriers that are crying out for short deliveries on new aircraft.
When other airlines are reducing capacity, raising fuel surcharges, yet again, raising prices and canceling routes, RYR is opening new routes, new bases and training newcomers as fast as ever.
Hardly the sign of a company on its knees, which I imagine is what so many of you might wish to see.
You will be disappointed, one way or another!
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 08:55
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When other airlines are reducing capacity, raising fuel surcharges, yet again, raising prices and canceling routes, RYR is opening new routes, new bases and training newcomers as fast as ever.
Yep. From difficulty very often comes opportunity (for some airlines, anyway). Think back to what happened after 11th September: Ryanair, easyJet and Southwest were still growing (in terms of new routes and aircraft and consequently staff numbers), acquiring excellent deals from aircraft manufacturers, etc.

Special anna.aero briefing: Capacity and route reductions provide opportunities for niche carriers (and LCCs) | anna.aero

Ryanair has, of course, been tweeking upwards some of its fee-for-service ancillary streams, particularly its card fee and excess baggage charges. Ancillary revenue does, of course, supplement flight ticket (primary) revenue.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:00
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...nice new destinations map (microsoft silverlight) on the website....the older version was a little clearer to me though!

cheers
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:25
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But now you zoom into the map with the mouse wheel. That's great.
Also watch: Greece is on the map now!
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:30
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so is Australia and every country in the world!

doubt it means much
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 10:31
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USA is also in the map
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:05
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Great to see the new routes from Stansted! Tenerife and Malaga have been long overdue in my opinion. Ibiza and Madrid (already announced) will also make good new additions. Will be interesting to have Ryanair and easyJet going head to head on most of the Spanish flights.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:15
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According to this report, flights into 7 airports will be suspended for 6 weeks this Winter.

Ryanair to stop flights to seven airports this winter | BreakingNews.ie

Now, one of the airports listed is Valencia, which is a hub. Pretty drastic, No?

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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:19
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same data on RTE.

to close a base for 6 weeks is pretty drastic but oil at 130 a barrell is pretty drastic too..
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 12:55
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Offically announced from STN (listed at the bottom of its STN reduction news article):

AGP 3x weekly 28th Oct
FUE 3x weekly 28th Oct
TFS 3x weekly 28th Oct
IBZ 3x weekly 28th Oct
KTW daily 27th Oct
BSL 3x weekly 21st Dec
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 13:26
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I don't think IBZ will work very well in the winter.
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 13:42
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I have a flight booked EMA-VLC on 15th Dec, I looked on RYR web site but no news about it being cancelled (yet).
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 13:58
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The following are listed in FR's pull-down menu and are on its (new) route map:

ALC-LBA = 3x weekly
ALC-PMI = 3x weekly
GRO-IBZ = 3x weekly
GRO-LBA = 4x weekly
GRO-PMI = 4x weekly
GRO-TRN = 3x weekly
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 14:18
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So, BA decides to introduce Gatwick-Valencia flights whilst Ryanair suspends its Stansted-Valencia service from 4 November to 19 December! What a funny old world we live in!
On a more serious note, these cancellations will make me think very carefully in future about choosing Ryanair in case I, too, find flights cancelled once they've been booked (this is especially true for essential journeys or those involving non-refundable hotel bookings). I hope MOL reads this.
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