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It is MOL who keeps banging on about the LCC industry "blood-bath" with a result of just two or three big low-cost airlines with a couple of niche players, but I'd imagine that Ryanair are more keen on organic growth, as it's cheaper and less complicated to muscle a competitor out of the arena rather than buy somebody out. On the other hand, they have a massive amount of 737s on order with a need to put them all somewhere, so buying out and turning around a smaller, less successful airline and gaining a ready made workforce might be on the cards, like with buzz a few years previously.
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This RYR take over of Jet2 has been talked about for a while now. I also think it is quite possible. There has been no blood bath at Leeds & Newcastle, simply because Mol has stayed away. A couple of years ago it was claimed that Mol and PM were having secret meetings. Imagine say that they did the deal then. RYR keep a low presence at the Jet2 bases to allow them to grow, while RYR concentrate on other countries. Then, sometime in the future, when jet2's 737 fleet has reached a pre determined size, they conclude the deal. RYR take over the 737-300 fleet and all low cost routes. Jet2 757's and Chanex remain in PM's hands, allong with Jet2 Holidays.
As far as cost, Mol would make good money on the deal. RYR make many millions on every airframe they take from the factory. They would also have a lot of old 737's to sell off for cash. On top of all this of course. They get new, ready made UK bases with trained crews. Win Win Win.
BALLSOUT.
As far as cost, Mol would make good money on the deal. RYR make many millions on every airframe they take from the factory. They would also have a lot of old 737's to sell off for cash. On top of all this of course. They get new, ready made UK bases with trained crews. Win Win Win.
BALLSOUT.
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FR Malpensa plan rejected
After months of talks, the head of the Malpensa's management company (SEA) Giuseppe Bonomi told the Corriere della Sera newspaper on Sunday that he had turned down Ryanair's offer to operate out of the international airport. He described the plan made by the airline as unacceptable.
The plan was presented in September after Alitalia's latest reorganisation envisioned halving the number of flights out of the Milan's biggest airport. "Nothing will be done, at least in 2008," Chairman Bonomi said. "You should never say never, but they have to soften their position". Ryanair would have obliged SEA to change its strategy completely, and the tariffs it wanted to charge passengers were too low for the airport.
What's coming next then? Some new FR airplanes coming to Bergamo? And, I guess, a couple of announcements about new bases elsewhere coming shortly, with Poland in the first row.
The plan was presented in September after Alitalia's latest reorganisation envisioned halving the number of flights out of the Milan's biggest airport. "Nothing will be done, at least in 2008," Chairman Bonomi said. "You should never say never, but they have to soften their position". Ryanair would have obliged SEA to change its strategy completely, and the tariffs it wanted to charge passengers were too low for the airport.
What's coming next then? Some new FR airplanes coming to Bergamo? And, I guess, a couple of announcements about new bases elsewhere coming shortly, with Poland in the first row.
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Liberare MXP
Stuff em then. . . . But to be honest I expected Ryanair to go into MXP and rape the airport, and just hold up a card saying FREE (LIBERARE) and start pointing at everything in sight. And then say, well BGY said we could have x,y, z for liberare. But it keeps Ryanair in the Italian press.
And how many of you actually think MOL actually goes to all these airports. He will send his base managers and some people from the Whitehouse and then he will have a look at it, and say yes/no, and then go to the press statement. (If I was him id be too busy rolling round in my money, then flying round in my spare time shouting my mouth off about other airlines n airports). Must have the luck of the Irish
Lee
And how many of you actually think MOL actually goes to all these airports. He will send his base managers and some people from the Whitehouse and then he will have a look at it, and say yes/no, and then go to the press statement. (If I was him id be too busy rolling round in my money, then flying round in my spare time shouting my mouth off about other airlines n airports). Must have the luck of the Irish
Lee
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I'm guessing that they will expand at their BGY base and also look at Eastern Europe (Riga and Krakow?)
Alos, I think it is only a matter of time now before EDI, BOH and MAN become FR bases, especially with EZY growing quicker than we all thought!
Alos, I think it is only a matter of time now before EDI, BOH and MAN become FR bases, especially with EZY growing quicker than we all thought!
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Bit of a sad question I know.
But is there any clear logic to FR flight numbers?
Do flights operated by aircraft at a certain base all begin with the same 2 numbers?
Or are the numbers simply assign when the route is launched?
But is there any clear logic to FR flight numbers?
Do flights operated by aircraft at a certain base all begin with the same 2 numbers?
Or are the numbers simply assign when the route is launched?
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Porto (OPO) new Ryanair base, is that for sure or just a rumour?
I have a portuguese collegue who is always saying that will move to Ryanair as soon as they open a base in Portugal.
I have a portuguese collegue who is always saying that will move to Ryanair as soon as they open a base in Portugal.
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The flight numbers are roughly related to a base, thought not necessarily the operating one. ie FR9305 GSE-PIK flies with both PIK and GSE crews and aircraft depending on the day of the week. This flight number isn't really a PIK one which tends to be FR78xx. There are loads of exceptions though !
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Except that FR9305 is actually NYO-PIK I think you mean FR7892/3 which is PIK-GSE-PIK.
But you are correct and when the NYO route first started it was originally operated by a NYO based a/c thats why the flight number does not start with a "7" like most other PIK routes
An answer that is now much sadder than the original question
But you are correct and when the NYO route first started it was originally operated by a NYO based a/c thats why the flight number does not start with a "7" like most other PIK routes
An answer that is now much sadder than the original question
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Apologies
Sorry. I spoke too soon. The announcement of a Ryanair base at Porto is indefinitely postponed following a disagreement between Ryanair and the airport.
The airport had agreed to offer special reduced charges to Ryanair but now they have changed their mind.
http://jn.sapo.pt/2008/01/04/porto/s...aeroporto.html
http://jn.sapo.pt/2008/01/03/porto/r..._dinheiro.html
The airport had agreed to offer special reduced charges to Ryanair but now they have changed their mind.
http://jn.sapo.pt/2008/01/04/porto/s...aeroporto.html
http://jn.sapo.pt/2008/01/03/porto/r..._dinheiro.html
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Well if the OPO base is a non runner and the MXP deal is over that leaves 4 aircraft arriving unallocated. Does anyone know when these arrive? I though I heard by March?
Any ideas where they will go MAN, BOH, RIX, BTS?
Any ideas where they will go MAN, BOH, RIX, BTS?
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Could be that Liverpool needs at least one more 737.
In the summer scheduling period the Ryanair Liverpool base has a need for eight based aircraft, at this moment Liverpool is home to just seven aircraft.
In the summer scheduling period the Ryanair Liverpool base has a need for eight based aircraft, at this moment Liverpool is home to just seven aircraft.
