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Interesting point about some regions of the UK deferring the Easter holidays.
But so far this is the only example in Europe that I've heard about.
Anybody else know of other regions in Europe where the Easter school holidays have been deferred to April?
But so far this is the only example in Europe that I've heard about.
Anybody else know of other regions in Europe where the Easter school holidays have been deferred to April?
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Easter Traffic
This is getting a bit peripheral for Prune, so I will make this my last remark on the topic.
School and Public Holiday regimes vary widely accross Europe and even within the UK. Ryanair to their credit is the master of exploiting these and other external factors (like sports events) in their yield management system.
To answer your question, the English system (Scotland is I believe different here) has a school year made basically of three 12 week semesters (terms). Each semester is broken at six weeks with a week off (half term) and finishes with a 2-3 week break at Easter and year end, with a longer break for summer.
The problem this year is that Easter fell too close to the February half term meaning that the semester is for some schools too short.
Many English schools therefore postponed the 'Easter holidays' by two weeks. Example Dorset is just finishing their Easter break, Hampshire has yet to start theirs.
The impact on travel stats is that many family holiday trips taken at the 'easter school break' bulge have yet to happen... so March traffic stats will be hard to measure against past performance.
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School and Public Holiday regimes vary widely accross Europe and even within the UK. Ryanair to their credit is the master of exploiting these and other external factors (like sports events) in their yield management system.
To answer your question, the English system (Scotland is I believe different here) has a school year made basically of three 12 week semesters (terms). Each semester is broken at six weeks with a week off (half term) and finishes with a 2-3 week break at Easter and year end, with a longer break for summer.
The problem this year is that Easter fell too close to the February half term meaning that the semester is for some schools too short.
Many English schools therefore postponed the 'Easter holidays' by two weeks. Example Dorset is just finishing their Easter break, Hampshire has yet to start theirs.
The impact on travel stats is that many family holiday trips taken at the 'easter school break' bulge have yet to happen... so March traffic stats will be hard to measure against past performance.
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And my point is that Ryanair aren't just a UK airline, but a pan-European airline, and maybe most of Europe had school holidays in the end of March.
But ok, for the best comparison we'll take March 07 + April 07 against March 08 + April 08.
But ok, for the best comparison we'll take March 07 + April 07 against March 08 + April 08.
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March 2008 load factor up 1% to 79% from March 2007.
Subtract between 5 and 10% for the real load factor, which you must do to compare apples with apples.
So somewhere in the low 70's% is the reality, i.e. not very good and including easter. Is it any wonder airline analysts (as opposed to spotters) believe the model is in deep $hit?
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Remember the ryr lie LF includes no-shows, while the industry standard does not.
Semi flexible tickets etc can't be bought so I don't see why unflown sectors should not be used in their statistics
As I pointed out before,Ryr are not fibbing. In their shareholder literature , it is stated that the LF figures include unflown sectors, as RYR operate a no-refunds policy. It does however act as a nice revenue stream for the operation.
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The point is that it is not possible to say ryr are doing better in terms of LF than anyone else if you don't compare like for like, regardless of refund policy. Besides, large numbers of no-shows are no doubt those who booked 1p tax included tickets on a whim. Not much revenue there... The whole point of cheap gimmick seats is that they then spend money on board. If they're not there, they aren't spending money, are not producing revenue and are skewing the load factor statistics.
Try to remember that micko lies to you, me, the staff, the shareholders, the stock market, the pax and the judiciary. Start with sceptical mindset and understanding becomes easier.
Try to remember that micko lies to you, me, the staff, the shareholders, the stock market, the pax and the judiciary. Start with sceptical mindset and understanding becomes easier.
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Lots of German travellers are experiencing huge difficulties with the booking engine when trying to book flights from HHN to SXF! Every fourth user in the Hahn-Forum receives error messages in the last booking step.
FR should react very quickly in this case!!!
FR should react very quickly in this case!!!
Silly question time - how do you cancel a Ryanair flight? I've got a cheapie to DUB but now can't go and it goes against the grain to just 'no-show' (and they've problably got a charge for that too...)
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FYI,on a recent DUB-LGW sector the previous night the RYR website was indicating a load of 184. The eventual TOB was 157. On another DUB-ORK sector it was 187 vs 152
Where on the site do you get this info?
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Apparently, ryr saved 50 m by renegotiating airport contracts, so that is only 350 m to go.
http://www.independent.ie/business/i...s-1341262.html
"If profits were to fall by something like 50pc in the next 12 months, it won't be a pay freeze next year it'll be a pay cut."
"We moved seven planes out of Stansted last winter, I think that number will rise and the process will start at Dublin,"
http://www.independent.ie/business/i...s-1341262.html
"If profits were to fall by something like 50pc in the next 12 months, it won't be a pay freeze next year it'll be a pay cut."
"We moved seven planes out of Stansted last winter, I think that number will rise and the process will start at Dublin,"
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€50 M ???
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So they are moving aircraft out of two of their biggest baes, and probably most profitable. Where are they planning to put them?
I know there will be new bases but they have tens of new planes arriving every year!
I know there will be new bases but they have tens of new planes arriving every year!
I note that the plan is to move aircraft out of Dublin and Stansted during 'winter' - but I would guess those aircraft return for the summer peaks.
Do I detect spin?
The declaration that they have renegotiated down their handling and landing costs at 140 airports in a few weeks beggars belief. I suspect this is a means of putting pressure on recalcitrant airport authorities who don't want to play ball.
More spin?
Do I detect spin?
The declaration that they have renegotiated down their handling and landing costs at 140 airports in a few weeks beggars belief. I suspect this is a means of putting pressure on recalcitrant airport authorities who don't want to play ball.
More spin?
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Ryanair faces probe over adverts
Ryanair faces a probe by the [UK] Office of Fair Trading (OFT) after a string of complaints about its adverts.
ASA: "It is very disappointing, but absolutely necessary, that we have had to take this course of action"
RYR: The low-cost carrier said that the authority's rulings against it had been "unfair, biased and untrue". The ASA had "demonstrated a repeated lack of independence, impartiality and fairness", Ryanair added.
You make up your own mind. BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7337165.stm
Ryanair faces a probe by the [UK] Office of Fair Trading (OFT) after a string of complaints about its adverts.
ASA: "It is very disappointing, but absolutely necessary, that we have had to take this course of action"
RYR: The low-cost carrier said that the authority's rulings against it had been "unfair, biased and untrue". The ASA had "demonstrated a repeated lack of independence, impartiality and fairness", Ryanair added.
You make up your own mind. BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7337165.stm