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Airport taxes are heavier at Birmingham compared to EMA... there is currently only 3-4 flights a week to Pisa from EMA, and Marseille is untouched, and they could easily add more Girona flights, so why choose Birmingham, Easyjet could move in, bmibaby are in there with Marseille, Nice and Barcelona + Rome and Milan and BE also have Milan, so why are ryanair going into BHX instead of EMA...
Clearly EMA would have been a better choice for expanding...
Clearly EMA would have been a better choice for expanding...
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Bhx-psa/mrs/gro
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PSA - Nobody has touched this route since MyTravelLite and in summer it
will make money irrespective of the EMA service
GRO - Again has its own market as well as for Barcelona and there is
plenty of room for both WW & FR and again should not affect EMA
MRS - ??? other than to **** off BMI Baby but at least it is on different
days.
Also with Baby expanding, Easy sniffing it is no doubt a little warning plus the main fact that there is money to be had from a small BHX operation at least for a little while.
Pete
PSA - Nobody has touched this route since MyTravelLite and in summer it
will make money irrespective of the EMA service
GRO - Again has its own market as well as for Barcelona and there is
plenty of room for both WW & FR and again should not affect EMA
MRS - ??? other than to **** off BMI Baby but at least it is on different
days.
Also with Baby expanding, Easy sniffing it is no doubt a little warning plus the main fact that there is money to be had from a small BHX operation at least for a little while.
Pete
And the primary airports have almost certainly not given into Ryanair's usual demands for discounted this, and free that. They (the airports that is) might actually make money from Ryanair rather than simply jacking up car parking, security and charges to the passenger.
A bit brighter business model than the EMAs, Prestwicks and Liverpools of this world perhaps.
A bit brighter business model than the EMAs, Prestwicks and Liverpools of this world perhaps.
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I'm sure the millions of passengers that are now able to use the airports you mention would be more than happy for their respective managements to adopt business models which resulted in a situation whereby they again only offered a handful of scheduled routes at elevated prices...!?
I think Ryanair's latest announcements have more to do with spoiling tactics against the opposition than an eagerness to operate from these airports.
I'm sure the millions of passengers that are now able to use the airports you mention would be more than happy for their respective managements to adopt business models which resulted in a situation whereby they again only offered a handful of scheduled routes at elevated prices...!?
I think Ryanair's latest announcements have more to do with spoiling tactics against the opposition than an eagerness to operate from these airports.
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Interestingly and surprisingly in the press release, seems Ryanair have somewhat bigger plans in the future for MAN, especially surprising considering relations between them and the airport have been notoriously icy in the past:
"RYANAIR was the latest budget airline to unveil major expansion plans at Manchester Airport when it announced services to the cities of Milan, Marseille, Girona in Spain and Bremen in Germany would start next year.
The Irish carrier will operate a total of 12 services a week to those destinations initially.
It hopes to add four more Manchester routes by June and a further four by summer 2009."
Stoney
"RYANAIR was the latest budget airline to unveil major expansion plans at Manchester Airport when it announced services to the cities of Milan, Marseille, Girona in Spain and Bremen in Germany would start next year.
The Irish carrier will operate a total of 12 services a week to those destinations initially.
It hopes to add four more Manchester routes by June and a further four by summer 2009."
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They may have had an icey past but the future says that MAN is a major part their expansion plans and I'm guessing by 2010 FR is looking at basing aircraft at the airport.
Although Mr O'Leary may not get on very well with the MAG heads, he does know that MAN will be important, especially if EZY want to get a foot in. You can argue all day that LPL has just as much pulling power for these two airlines as MAN, but to be blunt - it doesn't. LPL will keep on growing and these two airlines will be vital, but if one airline (EZY) started expanding into MAN and not the other, then the latter would be left behind and I think we are seeing this by today's move by FR.
Also, as O'Leary said earlier this year, he has planes arriving sometimes trice weekly and they need to fly somewhere. I also remember him saying that it was vital for FR to enter the bigger markets to keep growing at it's pace, it also mentioned AMS as a possible destination (not from MAN, just in general) but I think they might pass on that one seeing the tax increases by the 'green' government.
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On a completely different topic, not related to todays announcements, I have been looking through the EK website (booked for next summer) and noticed that ythey call themselves the 'World's fastest growing airline.' I know they have aircraft arriving all the time and within the 250-500 seat bracket but are they really growing as quick as FR?
Although Mr O'Leary may not get on very well with the MAG heads, he does know that MAN will be important, especially if EZY want to get a foot in. You can argue all day that LPL has just as much pulling power for these two airlines as MAN, but to be blunt - it doesn't. LPL will keep on growing and these two airlines will be vital, but if one airline (EZY) started expanding into MAN and not the other, then the latter would be left behind and I think we are seeing this by today's move by FR.
Also, as O'Leary said earlier this year, he has planes arriving sometimes trice weekly and they need to fly somewhere. I also remember him saying that it was vital for FR to enter the bigger markets to keep growing at it's pace, it also mentioned AMS as a possible destination (not from MAN, just in general) but I think they might pass on that one seeing the tax increases by the 'green' government.
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On a completely different topic, not related to todays announcements, I have been looking through the EK website (booked for next summer) and noticed that ythey call themselves the 'World's fastest growing airline.' I know they have aircraft arriving all the time and within the 250-500 seat bracket but are they really growing as quick as FR?
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All the 26 Ryanair new route annunced today:
New:Malaga (AGP) to Liverpool, John Lennon (LPL)
New:Alicante (ALC) to Darlington, Durham Tees Valley (MME)
New:Alicante (ALC) to Newquay, Cornwall (NQY)
New:Alicante (ALC) to Zaragoza (ZAZ)
New:Bergamo, Orio Al Serio (BGY) to Arad (ARW)
New:Birmingham, International (BHX) to Gerona, Costa Brava (GRO)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Alicante (ALC)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Bremen (BRE)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Bristol (BRS)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Hahn, Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Marseille, Provence (MRS)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA)
New:Gerona, Costa Brava (GRO) to Newquay, Cornwall (NQY)
New:Hahn, Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN) to Sevilla, San Pablo (SVQ)
New:Hahn, Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN) to Trapani, Birgi (TPS)
New:Liverpool, John Lennon (LPL) to Nantes, Atlantique (NTE)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Bergamo, Orio Al Serio (BGY)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Bremen (BRE)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Bristol (BRS)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Gerona, Costa Brava (GRO)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Marseille, Provence (MRS)
New:Marseille, Provence (MRS) to Malaga (AGP)
New:Marseille, Provence (MRS) to Birmingham, International (BHX)
New:Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA) to Birmingham, International (BHX)
New:Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA) to Bari, Palese (BRI)
New:Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA) to Constanta, Kogalniceanu (CND)
New:London, Stansted (STN) to Angouleme, Brie-Champniers (ANG)
New:London, Stansted (STN) to Faro (FAO)
New:Malaga (AGP) to Liverpool, John Lennon (LPL)
New:Alicante (ALC) to Darlington, Durham Tees Valley (MME)
New:Alicante (ALC) to Newquay, Cornwall (NQY)
New:Alicante (ALC) to Zaragoza (ZAZ)
New:Bergamo, Orio Al Serio (BGY) to Arad (ARW)
New:Birmingham, International (BHX) to Gerona, Costa Brava (GRO)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Alicante (ALC)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Bremen (BRE)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Bristol (BRS)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Hahn, Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Marseille, Provence (MRS)
New Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI) to Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA)
New:Gerona, Costa Brava (GRO) to Newquay, Cornwall (NQY)
New:Hahn, Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN) to Sevilla, San Pablo (SVQ)
New:Hahn, Frankfurt-Hahn (HHN) to Trapani, Birgi (TPS)
New:Liverpool, John Lennon (LPL) to Nantes, Atlantique (NTE)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Bergamo, Orio Al Serio (BGY)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Bremen (BRE)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Bristol (BRS)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Gerona, Costa Brava (GRO)
New:Manchester (MAN) to Marseille, Provence (MRS)
New:Marseille, Provence (MRS) to Malaga (AGP)
New:Marseille, Provence (MRS) to Birmingham, International (BHX)
New:Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA) to Birmingham, International (BHX)
New:Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA) to Bari, Palese (BRI)
New:Pisa, Galileo Galilei (PSA) to Constanta, Kogalniceanu (CND)
New:London, Stansted (STN) to Angouleme, Brie-Champniers (ANG)
New:London, Stansted (STN) to Faro (FAO)
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Obviously FR has too many aircraft and they now seem to be arriving too quickly!
Looks like the airline are operating wet lease on their aircraft! Wonder how much a short term brand spanking new 738(W) on wet lease will cost! Would have to be desperate!
Looks like the airline are operating wet lease on their aircraft! Wonder how much a short term brand spanking new 738(W) on wet lease will cost! Would have to be desperate!
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Flying PIK-STN at the weekend I got into trouble from Helga the Hosty who was most cross that I had out my rucksack under the seat in front. I was in an "Emergency Exit" row you see. Apparently.
The back of the seat in front told me this too, except there is a snag. I was in the last row, there was a wall behind me and the nearest exit was door 4L beyond the bulkhead. So why on Earth is this an exit row and what is the problem with putting my bags under the seat in front as the exit is behind me. Beyond the galley. And a wall. So not THAT close.
I may be being thick here so don't hesitate to explain. Thanks chaps.,
The back of the seat in front told me this too, except there is a snag. I was in the last row, there was a wall behind me and the nearest exit was door 4L beyond the bulkhead. So why on Earth is this an exit row and what is the problem with putting my bags under the seat in front as the exit is behind me. Beyond the galley. And a wall. So not THAT close.
I may be being thick here so don't hesitate to explain. Thanks chaps.,