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Old 16th Aug 2007, 13:50
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"Are the domestic routes once daily, or more frequent?"

As I said, they're daily. Of course, frequencies could later change.

"Any news re Dub - Rak?"

I haven't heard anything yet.

It's funny that so few people have mentioned that both PRG and NCE are brand-new - and pretty exciting - destinations for FR.

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Old 16th Aug 2007, 23:58
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MAD-CRL will go to 2x daily instead of 4x weekly from the end of october.
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Old 17th Aug 2007, 06:01
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Flights between MAD and BVA will also be increased from 1 daily to 2 daily.
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Old 17th Aug 2007, 06:36
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If RYR have a spare MAD acft, then MAN is still looking for a replacement MAD service. Would go against EZY over at LPL & add to their MAN - DUB & SNN routes.
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Old 17th Aug 2007, 12:42
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If RYR have a spare MAD acft, then MAN is still looking for a replacement MAD service. Would go against EZY over at LPL & add to their MAN - DUB & SNN routes.
Ryanair confirmed the Liverpool to Madrid route a few days ago.
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Old 17th Aug 2007, 12:51
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Whoops missed that one

So Liverpool have both Ryanair & Easy Jet on the LPL-MAD route. Poor Manchester had two flights a day & now have none.
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Old 17th Aug 2007, 12:55
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.... EZY should have had this route sewn up for themselves and gone 2*daily a while back.

Its been one of the best in terms of load factor since it started the route years ago.
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Old 17th Aug 2007, 13:51
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Many new planes needed for the recent expansion of winter schedule routes.
Does anyone know if FR is going to use the 7 aircrafts withdrawn from Stansted during the winter season?
Maybe some member might have a look at the registration codes of these planes when the new routes will start.
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Old 17th Aug 2007, 22:36
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Stansted isn't the only airport affected by FR's winter cut.

In the German Hahn-Forum there are rumors going, one of the Hahn-based planes might be leased to the States during European winter season to step in for charter flights to the Caribbean.
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Old 18th Aug 2007, 08:48
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I think its a good idea what Ryanair is doing, no point in flying empty a/c round europe for the fun of it, it will keep the load factor high. Its just a case of supply n demand. Which is why we are seeing an increased number of sun routes, like ALC and TFS, and AGP in the spring.

Durring my training I was told by Ryanair Direct that we know its going to be a hard year for us, but we have the cash funds to ride it out, you get this every few years and yes some of the smaller carriers will go out of business or drop some routes. A good example of this will be Belfast from EMA over the next few months. And it looks like easyJet are gearing up to cut back to EMA since Ryanair are starting a fight for EMA. (Look at EMA forum).

Saying that Ryanair at EMA are adding new a/c over the winter with new exciting routes, TFS and ALC, more Polish routes like Poznan.

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Old 18th Aug 2007, 09:35
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Dumdumbrain, why are you so sure that WW will drop bfs when fr start bhd? How are fr going to offer a service to compete at a restricted airport?

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Old 18th Aug 2007, 09:36
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so ryanair has agreed to wet lease two planes to ei during next week's flights. how's that going to go down do you think? will ialpa's ryanair members fly them?
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Old 18th Aug 2007, 09:38
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I think FR are realising that more people want to take winter hoidays to sunny destinations, and the Canary Islands are the best place to go. LS operated these routes last year, and have this year added LPA to their schedule and also expanded on their Tenerife and Lanzarote routes.

I think FR are trying to get a good foot in the Canary Island market before EZY turn up. They are getting nearer! (Madeira!)

Personally, I think this is a good move by FR, and I wouldn't be surprised if TFS isn't turned into a base before long!
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Old 19th Aug 2007, 12:28
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probably a new route, PUY-CRL - as you can see one the route map
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Old 19th Aug 2007, 13:35
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Question Lpl/tfs

Anyone know if FR will only offer this route over Winter 07/08 or is it likely to be offered for summer 2008 as well
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Old 19th Aug 2007, 14:28
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probably a new route, PUY-CRL - as you can see one the route map
Pula (PUY) - Charleroi has been visible on the routemap since the day Pau (PUF) - Charleroi appeared on the routemap. So it seems to be an I.T. hiccup rather than a new route

As for Liverpool to Tenerife South, I understand it will be a year round route. The Ryanair agreement with Tenerife South is precisely to provide year round routes.
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Old 19th Aug 2007, 16:08
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turmoil

Pula? No way, not a single route will be added there. In contrary, PUY is another new destination that FR just started to fly to (some four months ago) being doomed to be discontinued very soon, at the end of October. The same fate will share also the second Dalmatian airport - in Zadar. I've just read how shocked by such an unexpected development the local Croatian authorities and businesses in both cities are.

I don't know how deeply involved in recent schedules' changes and route maps' rearrangements MOL has been, or was there someone else backing this hassle, but the one responsible for the latest switches is behaving like a lunatic indeed. Very abrupt changes are resulting in vast chaos over a short period of time. The new destinations are being dismissed even before the customers had the actual chances to realize such routes ever existed. And even worse, extremely good performing routes are being reduced without any logical explanation. Let's take as an example TMP from HHN. Flights to Tampere, definitely one of the top-performing destinations out of the German hub, have been slashed in half without any apparent reason. Pretty high LF's (even in winter for three years in a row), high ticket prices - all that didn't matter.

Reacting fast while markets tend to soften is a very wise thing, but don't be so chaotic in doing your arrangements, it's a best way to antagonize even those committed customers!

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Old 19th Aug 2007, 19:47
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Unfortunately Ryanair's sole purpose is to make as much money for the shareholders as possible. If routes are not making profit within 3 months - they will be withdrawn at the end of the sale period. There is no chance to take time to see if they will work or if new timings will help, it's 'does it work or not?'

This may leave room for another airline to mop up after Ryanair...
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Old 19th Aug 2007, 19:57
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Pula and Zadar are likely to be summer routes and both expected to come back at the beginning of the s08 schedule. think about charter services to Split, Dubrovnik, Zadar and Pula, as well : they do not run from Nov to Apr from UK and Ireland airports cos the hotels usually shut down or they are opened with limited services/facilities, hence tour operators do not include these destinations in their winter brochures, the same is gonna do FR. Sea water is pretty cold from the mid of Oct onward !
well, and i guess Rodez, Brest and Balaton services from STN or LTN will share the same fate of the Croatian ones.

i do believe it's a smart move from Fr to cut the typical summer destinations (Croatia's coastal resorts, Lake Balaton) or the smallest ones (like Rodez) during the cold months....but im still suprised for Almeria, which works perfectly year-round, even during the winter time, due to many British people having a property or relatives down there..seems like easyJet is axing this destination from LGW, too..at least for the w07/08.

The only destinations that are definitively dropped, at the moment, are : Esbjerg in Denmark, Malmö in Sweden and Vitoria in Spain...we'll see what's gonna happen next year, when the s08 schedule will be released.
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Old 19th Aug 2007, 20:15
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Some informed replies please.
If RYR is reducing it's flights during certain periods of the year, while training extra crews for arriving a/c, it would sugest that crews will fly less hours: BRK & RYR crews. Since both groups of pilots' income is effected by hours flown; this would appear to suggest a reduction. What is the opinion/reaction of those crews who will see a loss of income?
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